We sure as hell can't continue playing like this. We're more defensively solid under Arteta, but our attacking play wasn't this poor under Emery or the last few years under Wenger. Even without signings we should be performing much better.

There must be certain players in this Arsenal squad who must be thoroughly fed up with the lack of quality around them.
We look desperate for 4-5 players to come right in the starting 11.

The biggest frustration again is we find ourselves with most of the ball but can't match the energy, workrate and athletic capacity of the opposition. Liverpool and City dominate possession but hound the opposition all day long

Depressing.

Bellerin is capable of better moments but is equally as capable of messing things up. Chambers is a more dependable defender

Losing a game and our best options off the bench are Nelson and Tavares. Part of that is unfortunate with the players out but this squad is woeful, it is a squad fit for 8th in the league because really nothing has changed at all. All the same problems exist.

Same old, same old. I had hoped for more but we just collapsed back into mediocrity. No cutting edge which is no surprise. Groundhog Day.

Oh well at least this will hopefully dispel the nonsense that some of our players like Balogun and Martinelli are world beaters and the Manager should be sacked for not playing them. more rationale is required.

Sky has just shown Arsenal’s next six games: HAHAHA.

Talk about kicking a team when it’s down.

A Fallout Friday as stated earlier.

Wow, where do we go from here.

Time to get rid of Arteta, he's not good enough

It can only get better from here.

Can’t it?

According to whom? He was clearly the first choice right back last season but in the last two months of last season he was dropped.

Act quickly in the transfer market, at least 3 players good enough to fight for a starting spot, then give Arteta a couple more games to sort it out. If he doesn't, we need to replace him.

The churn that we need on the squad cant be done quickly enough. Poor players on high wages in a market where no one is really buying - terrible combination for a squad that needs 2/3rds of its players replaced. We will face the prospect that by adding only a few each year and always having to hang on to what we don't want we'll never reach where we need to be and by the time certain parts of the squad are addressed the likes of Saka and Smith Rowe will be off.

Bellerin before Chambers at right back.

£50m on a centre back and we’re still just as hopeless with a soft centre.

What is Martinelli's position though TG, he buzzes around in that inside forward position but gets virtually zero passes into him. Is that what Arteta is asking him to do, if so why?

To be fair, the service into Balogun from our midfield was diabolical but he did look out of his depth.

Arsenal have been total groundhog day for maybe 12 years - certainly painfully so for the last 5.
Awfully run and zero ambition and players who are all too often not matching the effort levels of our opponents.

That's it

The actual hard truth, That team we put out was always going to lose. So considering that where do you go from here

Great on the ball but did White even win a single header?

On what basis is Chambers better? He was sent out on loan to Fulham because he wasn't deemed good enough. Fulham then moved him into midfield. Bellerin is no world beater but he is a far better right back than Chambers.

The worst thing of all about this?

I’m not at all surprised.

There's 2 1/2 weeks left in the window, what makes you think we will get 3 top players in now? If I was watching that debacle tonight I wouldn't be signing for Arsenal any time soon.

I’ve said for some time our midfielders aren’t good enough. Xhaka was dire in the first half and I’m a big fan of Emile Smith Rowe but If he does one positive thing over 90 minutes our fans go crazy thinking he’s brilliant, he may come good but really is he the answer ? . Lokonga looks solid but someone who looks more of a sitting midfielder based on that 90.

I’m totally unable to ascertain if our manager is any good or not because some of these players are mediocre and others plain SHITE

Smith Rowe was head and shoulders above every other Arsenal player bar perhaps Tierney (though I thought he might have done better on the 2nd goal) and Lakonga who was promising.

What’s particularly depressing is that just one game in we’ve had our fears confirmed. We are really quite poor and with no real prospect of improvement. The club has over recent years dug a massive hole from which to climb out. And we’re still digging.

I'm not saying I think it'll happen, I was talking about what we should do. Our ability to attract good players is still there, that's not the issue here. Plenty of talent out there, we just need the people in charge to see the need for it.

Feels like far more than a just 3 players needed for me. Our problem is a bloated squad with too many players who are bottom half of the league at best!
brentford are a team who know what each others jobs are and know exactly where to be, what to do etc - we're a hopeful team, there is no purpose and intent save for a few individual moments from Emile Smith Rowe, Tierney, Saka.
Right now we clearly need another GK, a proper right back, another central mid to relegate Xhaka, a creative mid and a top class striker.
I'm also far from convinced by Mari and Holding even though I know they'd be back ups when everyone is fit. Something about central defenders without any sort of pace that always unnerves me.

Toney had an alright kind of game but he dominated our CB by simply holding the ball up and being strong. It was said White wasn't the strongest in the air before he joined us, he's going to have to get better because every side in the bottom half of the league is going to do to him what Toney did tonight

I’d take Wenger back in a heartbeat. Conte is available, we should be all over him. Arteta has no more than 10 games to save his job IMO.

Agreed.

I think it’s fair to say the pundit was absolutely correct.

Didn't bother challenging for a few of them, which is a worry. It's his first game and he is young so he deserves lots of slack. Bad start though.

We dug that hole with a JCB and trying to dig ourselves out with a teaspoon at the moment

The fact is we barely create anything and Ødegaard wont change that on his own. We need another attacking midfielder, a central midfielder, a striker, a right back at the very least.

Like Conte would come here?, he wouldn't go to Spuds because Levy wasn't going to bankroll him, same reason Allegri wont come either, we'll only get second rate managers under KSE.

#KroenkeOUT

I would too Darren, this is a job for an experienced coach not a novice.

Arteta looks lost. Almost as if it is his first managerial role.

But I have grave doubts as to whether another manager would do any better given the current playing staff, existing contracts, shortage of funds. We look to be marooned for some considerable time to come.