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Post #507681  Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:50 pm 
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Andy Green wrote:
Hi Brom. . I think there may be a language gap here. In the US of A “skipper” often refers to the coach or as we would say manager ....not to the captain of the team on the pitch.
In other news Happy Fathers Day to you all.


I was in Philly in February. My how things have changed. You are 'spot on' as you Brits say. But I have a feeling our buddy knew that anyway and just being a...well...nevermind. :icon_mrgreen: I don't see the posts anyway.


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Seems we are linked to several players which is nice to read about. And still in June. Which bodes well for the summer. The players linked to us strongly seemed pretty good. Fingers crossed we wrap things up with them soon.


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Just read we are close to getting William Saliba. Never heard of him but he looks strong and at that young age, will only get stronger.



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While Arsenal fans remained dazed waiting for a signing ...any signing, the Daily Star get to the big issues in the UK at the moment. And its good news for those on here that embrace these ideas. Do you think it could be possibly a sign that Edu is on his way from Brazil?

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/fashion-bea ... c.outbrain

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Bielik is an interesting one. I saw him a few times for Charlton last season and the thing that is obvious is how techically gifted he is for such a big lad. Very composed on the ball with a great range of passing. Excellent in the air too.

The Charlton boss used him either at CB or DM, depending on the opposition.

He looks great striding out from the back with the ball into midfield to launch attacks and spray passes around but I have my reservations about him defensively because he's primarily a midfielder turned CB and I don't think he's that good when opposing players get a chance to run at him. However, in a defensive three he could work well.

I think he definitely deserves a chance in pre-season, he showed again last night in the Poland u21 game what an accomplished player he is, despite a couple of dodgy moments defensively. Scouts watching the game must be licking their lips at the thought of getting him on the cheap, as seems the custom with Arsenal sales.

Personally I think he's on a different level technically to Holding (and most CB's around to be honest), it just depends if Emery sees him as being reliable enough defensively to play CB or mobile enough to play as a DM.

I just hope we don't give him away.


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Post #507686  Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:10 am 
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Reports suggest we are agreeing terms with potential targets but agreeing terms with a player is very different from agreeing a fee with a club. I just hope we don't get outbid at the last minute because plenty of other clubs will be interested in the youthful prodigies we appear to be after.


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Post #507687  Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:27 am 
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socrates wrote:
Reports suggest we are agreeing terms with potential targets but agreeing terms with a player is very different from agreeing a fee with a club. I just hipe we don't get outbid at the last minute because plenty of other clubs will be interested in the youthful prodigies we appear to be after.


'Twas ever thus soc. Don't think this year's activity will be much different to the last few years.

Although I hope and pray I'm wrong and we unearth a new Adams, Keown, Vieira, Overmars, Petit, Henry, Pires and Bergkamp. Oh, and a new Wiltord of course. Not much to ask.

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john1 wrote:
socrates wrote:
Reports suggest we are agreeing terms with potential targets but agreeing terms with a player is very different from agreeing a fee with a club. I just hipe we don't get outbid at the last minute because plenty of other clubs will be interested in the youthful prodigies we appear to be after.


'Twas ever thus soc. Don't think this year's activity will be much different to the last few years.

Although I hope and pray I'm wrong and we unearth a new Adams, Keown, Vieira, Overmars, Petit, Henry, Pires and Bergkamp. Oh, and a new Wiltord of course. Not much to ask.


All in a day's work for our new transfers team I would have thought :laughing7:


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john1 wrote:
socrates wrote:
Reports suggest we are agreeing terms with potential targets but agreeing terms with a player is very different from agreeing a fee with a club. I just hipe we don't get outbid at the last minute because plenty of other clubs will be interested in the youthful prodigies we appear to be after.


'Twas ever thus soc. Don't think this year's activity will be much different to the last few years.

Although I hope and pray I'm wrong and we unearth a new Adams, Keown, Vieira, Overmars, Petit, Henry, Pires and Bergkamp. Oh, and a new Wiltord of course. Not much to ask.

More like Alberto Mendez I fear.

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Post #507690  Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:36 am 
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socrates wrote:
Bielik is an interesting one. I saw him a few times for Charlton last season and the thing that is obvious is how techically gifted he is for such a big lad. Very composed on the ball with a great range of passing. Excellent in the air too.

The Charlton boss used him either at CB or DM, depending on the opposition.

He looks great striding out from the back with the ball into midfield to launch attacks and spray passes around but I have my reservations about him defensively because he's primarily a midfielder turned CB and I don't think he's that good when opposing players get a chance to run at him. However, in a defensive three he could work well.

I think he definitely deserves a chance in pre-season, he showed again last night in the Poland u21 game what an accomplished player he is, despite a couple of dodgy moments defensively. Scouts watching the game must be licking their lips at the thought of getting him on the cheap, as seems the custom with Arsenal sales.

Personally I think he's on a different level technically to Holding (and most CB's around to be honest), it just depends if Emery sees him as being reliable enough defensively to play CB or mobile enough to play as a DM.

I just hope we don't give him away.

A Loan coming up to a mid table German side ... followed by a permanent transfer for 2 million then a season later a 25 million transfer to Bayern Munich.

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john1 wrote:
socrates wrote:
Reports suggest we are agreeing terms with potential targets but agreeing terms with a player is very different from agreeing a fee with a club. I just hipe we don't get outbid at the last minute because plenty of other clubs will be interested in the youthful prodigies we appear to be after.


'Twas ever thus soc. Don't think this year's activity will be much different to the last few years.

Although I hope and pray I'm wrong and we unearth a new Adams, Keown, Vieira, Overmars, Petit, Henry, Pires and Bergkamp. Oh, and a new Wiltord of course. Not much to ask.


Or a Djourou, Scillarci or Senderos. :laughing7:


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Post #507692  Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:25 pm 
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Saliba looks like it could be close. But with an immediate loan back. That makes sense as long as we delay any payment until he finishes that loan. It doesn't make sense to put a load of our season budget on a player who won't play for us next season.

I'm certainly more encouraged by the targeting of top young talent rather than the way Man U seem to be going about things by chasing Coutinho and Rakitic


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For no other reason than it is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxCPeQPeKzU


and " for no other reason " I enjoyed this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_WxtBP4ePs

Shades of " Honky Tonk "....... didn't realise he could play .

Put around in the early days when embracing ' rock n roll ' was a surefire ticket to Hell and Damnation ; the knockers said he just held the guitar for effect .
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Post #507695  Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:19 pm 
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Man U want £150m for Pogba. They bought him for £89m and he’s not even been in the top 15 central mids in the prem in that time. He turned up for 8 or so games but went completely missing for so many others. So why do Man U think they can put £60m on his price tag? And why would anyone pay it?
It annoys me how some players price tag is based on what their last transfer was and seem irrespective of their form


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Man U want £150m for Pogba. They bought him for £89m and he’s not even been in the top 15 central mids in the prem in that time. He turned up for 8 or so games but went completely missing for so many others. So why do Man U think they can put £60m on his price tag? And why would anyone pay it?
It annoys me how some players price tag is based on what their last transfer was and seem irrespective of their form


Why not throw him onto the market at an inflated price .... ?

Some filthy rich club might see him as the answer to their prayers and splash the cash .

Can't see why that should annoy you so much ... you need to buy yourself a V8 motor and pull it to bits in the shed .... great stress release .

What would you prefer ....? " The Arsenal " way of doing things .. spurn a decent offer ; hang on to someone for another year then accept a calimitous swap deal a la Sanchez .

.... or then of course there's our other method ; let whoever run down their contract completely then offload them for nothing .


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Rich wrote:
Man U want £150m for Pogba. They bought him for £89m and he’s not even been in the top 15 central mids in the prem in that time. He turned up for 8 or so games but went completely missing for so many others. So why do Man U think they can put £60m on his price tag? And why would anyone pay it?
It annoys me how some players price tag is based on what their last transfer was and seem irrespective of their form

Pogba is one of the biggest stars in world football. Since his transfer we've had the Neymar move to PSG which really moved transfers up a level. And while he might be a social media obsessed bellend, he's a hugely talented footballer and would walk into any side in the league apart from City because they have both Silva and DeBruyne.

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Never mind Pogba .
What does annoy me ...... is these dumn as dog sh***t Americans blowing a couple of holes in two tankers , releasing images of a quality that wouldn't be out of place in an early 1920s silent movie

.... then immediately point the finger at Iran to justify turning another country into a shambolic mess .


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Rich wrote:
Man U want £150m for Pogba. They bought him for £89m and he’s not even been in the top 15 central mids in the prem in that time. He turned up for 8 or so games but went completely missing for so many others. So why do Man U think they can put £60m on his price tag? And why would anyone pay it?
It annoys me how some players price tag is based on what their last transfer was and seem irrespective of their form

Pogba is one of the biggest stars in world football. Since his transfer we've had the Neymar move to PSG which really moved transfers up a level. And while he might be a social media obsessed bellend, he's a hugely talented footballer and would walk into any side in the league apart from City because they have both Silva and DeBruyne.


Pogba's value is more about his ability to sell stuff. No doubt a very good footballer but it's his marketability that is making clubs willing to pay crazy transfer fees for him.


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Rich wrote:
Man U want £150m for Pogba. They bought him for £89m and he’s not even been in the top 15 central mids in the prem in that time. He turned up for 8 or so games but went completely missing for so many others. So why do Man U think they can put £60m on his price tag? And why would anyone pay it?
It annoys me how some players price tag is based on what their last transfer was and seem irrespective of their form

I wouldn't mind having Pogba play for us but nothing close to the price. Mourinho killed a great box to box player. When he's happy and confident, he's a potential game changer. We saw it at Juve and the French national team.

Man Utd are dreaming. Maybe 2 clubs would even consider that (RM and PSG), maybe they are holding out for them.


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kiwipete wrote:
Rich wrote:
Man U want £150m for Pogba. They bought him for £89m and he’s not even been in the top 15 central mids in the prem in that time. He turned up for 8 or so games but went completely missing for so many others. So why do Man U think they can put £60m on his price tag? And why would anyone pay it?
It annoys me how some players price tag is based on what their last transfer was and seem irrespective of their form


Why not throw him onto the market at an inflated price .... ?

Some filthy rich club might see him as the answer to their prayers and splash the cash .

Can't see why that should annoy you so much ... you need to buy yourself a V8 motor and pull it to bits in the shed .... great stress release .

What would you prefer ....? " The Arsenal " way of doing things .. spurn a decent offer ; hang on to someone for another year then accept a calimitous swap deal a la Sanchez .

.... or then of course there's our other method ; let whoever run down their contract completely then offload them for nothing .

It probably annoys me because it is exactly the sort of thing Arsenal don't do.

Spend loads on talented player, talented player plays nowhere near as well as the fee we payed for him, talented player wants to leave, other clubs tap up talented player, we sell for 1/2 of what we paid


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kiwipete wrote:
Never mind Pogba .
What does annoy me ...... is these dumn as dog sh***t Americans blowing a couple of holes in two tankers , releasing images of a quality that wouldn't be out of place in an early 1920s silent movie

.... then immediately point the finger at Iran to justify turning another country into a shambolic mess .


Oh if you watched the video you'll see it was the Iranians alright.

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May be some more vacancies in football administration coming up.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-18/ ... p/11222568

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Gunfire wrote:
kiwipete wrote:
Never mind Pogba .
What does annoy me ...... is these dumn as dog sh***t Americans blowing a couple of holes in two tankers , releasing images of a quality that wouldn't be out of place in an early 1920s silent movie

.... then immediately point the finger at Iran to justify turning another country into a shambolic mess .


Oh if you watched the video you'll see it was the Iranians alright.


But is there proof that they were deploying mines. The photos look like a bunch of guys in a boat

It’s odd that Japan and Norway are less worried than the US that their tankers were attacked.

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Oh if you watched the video you'll see it was the Iranians alright.


But is there proof that they were deploying mines. The photos look like a bunch of guys in a boat

It’s odd that Japan and Norway are less worried than the US that their tankers were attacked.


I saw a bunch of lads in a boat take a mine put it in the boat and sail off. I doubt they'd be so cavalier if it wasnt their mine.

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See Freddie has replaced Bould as Assistant Coach.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48662806


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Gunfire wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

But is there proof that they were deploying mines. The photos look like a bunch of guys in a boat

It’s odd that Japan and Norway are less worried than the US that their tankers were attacked.


I saw a bunch of lads in a boat take a mine put it in the boat and sail off. I doubt they'd be so cavalier if it wasnt their mine.


How is it known they aren’t Americans and the video is doctored

Don’t you think it’s odd the way it’s just the Americans kicking off about it and not the Japanese or Norwegians as it was their ships ?

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So many penalties at the women’s World Cup due to VAR. even more interesting was the penalty that France missed but VAR intervened and said it should be retaken as the gk was a foot off her line. With encroachment from outfield players also a factor you wonder how consistent VAR will be with this in the prem.
All of these are matters of fact, like offside, so there can be no argument, it’s a black and white call. In theory we should see loads more penalties and loads more retaken for gk off their line or encroachment. Every penalty scored or missed will need to be checked.

This could be a right mess


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See Freddie has replaced Bould as Assistant Coach.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48662806


Supposedly as part of pushing young players to be part of the first team squad. Exciting if true. Think likes of Nelson, Willock and ESR won't let us down if given a dozen starts especially in cup games.


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See Freddie has replaced Bould as Assistant Coach.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48662806


Supposedly as part of pushing young players to be part of the first team squad. Exciting if true. Think likes of Nelson, Willock and ESR won't let us down if given a dozen starts especially in cup games.

There was a podcast from Arseblog talking about the use of young players in the cups particularly in the Europa Cup. They were firmly in favour of it.

It is a good idea but if we go out in the group stages because of playing youths then it could cost us a fair bit of money (and even less for transfers in the future) plus it is no use all the supporters complaining if we go not progress. Emery really has some stressful issues to deal with in trying to find a balance at the club.

I would be interested to see what others think of this idea. I think I would play no more than 3 youths in every game and run the risk of elimination. If Özil is still with us he would be selected every time until his attitude improves.

On another issue I notice that we have friendlies against a few good opponents for a change. I wonder if Emery is wanting to prove an early point before the transfer window closes. We win these games and the team may be up to a big season. We fail miserably and get a couple of hidings and he tells them we need to do the trolley dash.

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Oh if you watched the video you'll see it was the Iranians alright.


:42laughter: so they were all wearing turbans and had little Iranian flags sewn on their sleeves .

Yep that it do it .... let's bomb Tehran .

Ever hear of the Gulf of Tonkin .


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TOP GUN wrote:
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I saw a bunch of lads in a boat take a mine put it in the boat and sail off. I doubt they'd be so cavalier if it wasnt their mine.


How is it known they aren’t Americans and the video is doctored

Don’t you think it’s odd the way it’s just the Americans kicking off about it and not the Japanese or Norwegians as it was their ships ?

Good point Big Boy


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