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john1 · **#499481**

Decaf wrote:

AmericanGooner wrote:

After the so called 'Great Recession' of 2008, Obama and the Federal Reserve, propped up the American economy by hook or crook. The stock market (S&P) was a no brainer. Quantitative Easing, and other things meant the market was going to go up and they were not going to let it drop on its own weight. Making money trading was easy. Buy the market on any dip and let it ride, till it retreated a little. Americangooner was a happy camper..lol. I knew the market was being propped up by smoke and mirrors and eventually it would all come down like a house of cards.
Trump changed all that. Last day of January the markets had what some call a 'flash crash'. We had another recently. The number of points is really irrelevant. A 200 point drop when the market is at 1500 is visibly different than when its at 2900. The percentage drop is what is important. That said, by all accounts (of respected financial people) we are headed for a tsunami of a crash. Trump is speeding up the process. It's not a political statement just a financial one. Some would argue (and I would agree) its needed. We need to purge ourselves economically off the old ways. But its going to be very, very bad for a lot of people and what will these masses do, and I count myself among them, is going to be 'interesting' to say the least.
My guess? We we will see a sharp change to far left ideology in America in much the same way Trump ushered in fringe right (alt right).
I am curious to see how it plays out in England as well. I think after all is said and done, America will no longer be seen as the premier world power. I think it will be China. In much the same way after WW2, the UK was no longer the premier world power and America took over. And in much like the UK, America will stil be very relevant but no longer the same stature.

The US wont shift far left. It never has and never will.

Depends on your definition. Far left in the US is anyone with a smidgeon of a social conscience; see Obamacare, derided as far left. Bernie Saunders, a moderate Labourite in UK terms but far left in the US.

Decaf · **#499482**

john1 wrote:

Decaf wrote:

The US wont shift far left. It never has and never will.

Depends on your definition. Far left in the US is anyone with a smidgeon of a social conscience; see Obamacare, derided as far left. Bernie Saunders, a moderate Labourite in UK terms but far left in the US.

Definitions can be stretched beyond breaking points, however ... Bernard describing Torriera as 'full bodied' for example ...

Bernard · **#499483**

Decaf wrote:

Definitions can be stretched beyond breaking points, however ... Bernard describing Torriera as 'full bodied' for example ...

He's a midget but lots of guts.

gooner7 · **#499484**

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/france/s ... ional-team

What a huge psychological dent, feel sorry for him.

gooner7 · **#499485**

http://global.espn.com/football/blog/th ... ch?src=com

Always liked Per, a very likable man

AmericanGooner · **#499486**

gooner7 wrote:

http://global.espn.com/football/blog/the-toe-poke/65/post/3668802/arsene-wenger-back-in-dugout-for-ex-arsenal-captain-per-mertesackers-tearful-farewell-match?src=com

Always liked Per, a very likable man

Per is great to have around a locker room. He would be great to have now if he were still capable, just for the positive attitude, etc.

Gunfire · **#499487**

john1 wrote:

Depends on your definition. Far left in the US is anyone with a smidgeon of a social conscience; see Obamacare, derided as far left. Bernie Saunders, a moderate Labourite in UK terms but far left in the US.

Bernie Sanders is not moderate. He espouses the most radical sort of identity politics.

Decaf · **#499488**

Gunfire wrote:

john1 wrote:

Depends on your definition. Far left in the US is anyone with a smidgeon of a social conscience; see Obamacare, derided as far left. Bernie Saunders, a moderate Labourite in UK terms but far left in the US.

Bernie Sanders is not moderate. He espouses the most radical sort of identity politics.

Your statement is incoherent. You should try to understand centre-left politics before commenting on it.
a) Bernie is a moderate. He is a mild Keynesian/social democrat.
b) he does not espouse 'identity politics'.
c) identity politics is not radical by definition. As part of class politics and intersectionality maybe ... but 'identity politics' per se: no way, Jose.

Decaf · **#499489**

Bernard wrote:

Decaf wrote:

Definitions can be stretched beyond breaking points, however ... Bernard describing Torriera as 'full bodied' for example ...

He's a midget but lots of guts.

A bionic shrimp.

AmericanGooner · **#499490**

Credit to the England squad that they have gotten good enough where an England vs Spain game is not a forgone conclusion to be a loss.
I think they are not as good as the '90s team. The '90s team faced stiffer competition I think. France was stronger late '90s. Italy was a good team then. Germany was always strong but strong then and not as strong now.
But its to take anything away from this bunch. There is a confidence and a slight swagger to them. I think what helps them that wasn't around nearly as much in the '90s is that they are playing with and against the best in the world week in, week out. Not nearly as much international quality in the '90s in the league.

john1 · **#499491**

Gunfire wrote:

john1 wrote:

Depends on your definition. Far left in the US is anyone with a smidgeon of a social conscience; see Obamacare, derided as far left. Bernie Saunders, a moderate Labourite in UK terms but far left in the US.

Bernie Sanders is not moderate. He espouses the most radical sort of identity politics.

Are you being serious?

Gunfire · **#499492**

John Simpson saying the Glazers want to sell Manu to Mohammed Bin Salman. If true then given recent events it could get interesting.

Gunfire · **#499493**

Decaf wrote:

Your statement is incoherent. You should try to understand centre-left politics before commenting on it.
a) Bernie is a moderate. He is a mild Keynesian/social democrat.
b) he does not espouse 'identity politics'.
c) identity politics is not radical by definition. As part of class politics and intersectionality maybe ... but 'identity politics' per se: no way, Jose.

I think you need to read up on Sanders. You clearly don't know his politics.

TOP GUN · **#499494**

Decaf wrote:

Gunfire wrote:

Bernie Sanders is not moderate. He espouses the most radical sort of identity politics.

Your statement is incoherent. You should try to understand centre-left politics before commenting on it.
a) Bernie is a moderate. He is a mild Keynesian/social democrat.
b) he does not espouse 'identity politics'.
c) identity politics is not radical by definition. As part of class politics and intersectionality maybe ... but 'identity politics' per se: no way, Jose.

Have to agree to suggest sanders plays identity politics is a ridiculous statement. He opposes it strongly ...

Decaf · **#499495**

john1 wrote:

Gunfire wrote:

Bernie Sanders is not moderate. He espouses the most radical sort of identity politics.

Are you being serious?

Seemingly. Presumably based on some fake news about Sanders playing to the white base? There was quite a lot of that about at one point. Who knows.

Babu III · **#499496**

Gunfire wrote:

john1 wrote:

Depends on your definition. Far left in the US is anyone with a smidgeon of a social conscience; see Obamacare, derided as far left. Bernie Saunders, a moderate Labourite in UK terms but far left in the US.

Bernie Sanders is not moderate. He espouses the most radical sort of identity politics.

Errr.......

Ummmmm.....

But.........

:knob:

spasticus autisticus paralympicus losericus last place failed to finishicus

AmericanGooner · **#499497**

Babu III · **#499498**

TOP GUN wrote:

Fifa 19 is shocking I’m surprised you can play it. If you play your striker in through on goal with yards to spare the defender always catches him. It’s just not fun and seems a scramble. Think I will persist for a bit then ditch it

I hope you stuck with it

I had the same problems at first with the striker, but a slightly different timed nudge on R3 will get him away from the defender.
This is the best one yet. By far, especially with our Thursday Night Cup in it now!

AmericanGooner · **#499499**

I really hope both Henry and Vieira become top coaches. Martinez had glowing things to say about Henry. He seems to have little doubt Henry will do well and even said Henry may manage Arsenal one day.

https://www.facebook.com/GiveMeSport/vi ... 420784592/

Rich · **#499500**

Reiss Nelson with a 30 yard free kick, scoring on his first start for the eng u21 to follow up a goal and assist when he came on as sub for his debut earlier in the week.
The Hoffenheim move is doing him the world of good, glad he signed the long term deal before he went, City must be annoyed they couldn’t get Jadon Sancho to do the same

gooner7 · **#499501**

Rich wrote:

Reiss Nelson with a 30 yard free kick, scoring on his first start for the eng u21 to follow up a goal and assist when he came on as sub for his debut earlier in the week.
The Hoffenheim move is doing him the world of good, glad he signed the long term deal before he went, City must be annoyed they couldn’t get Jadon Sancho to do the same

Now to get Smith-Rowe a similar path. 2019-2020 is looking good for us.

Counting the chickens before they are hatched. No matter what, better than when the previous regime kept relying on already impotent cocks to impregnate the infertile hens.

Babu III · **#499502**

It's Wenger Wednesday...

This is the Wenger Traveller - Mel Ramos edition.
The Wenger Traveller used to be the Flagship Line...ha ha...

Babu III · **#499503**

WENGER WEDNESDAY.........

the cyclist, proper pants, how Wenger lasted that long...

AmericanGooner · **#499504**

This is kinda cool. At first I thought this NBA player was a foreign player or raised overseas or played or lived overseas like Kobe Bryant (Milan fan I think). But no, he's an American born and bred player and loves football and I'm guessing would rather play it if he had the skillset for it. I assume he's a gooner as well unless he visited other clubs.
His visit to Ashburton Grove, yes, I'm still not going to refer to it by its corporate sponsored name (hat tipped to Babu)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_S-Ij89Wsw

his highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jlePH9_Wh8

TOP GUN · **#499505**

Babu III wrote:

TOP GUN wrote:

Fifa 19 is shocking I’m surprised you can play it. If you play your striker in through on goal with yards to spare the defender always catches him. It’s just not fun and seems a scramble. Think I will persist for a bit then ditch it

I hope you stuck with it

I had the same problems at first with the striker, but a slightly different timed nudge on R3 will get him away from the defender.
This is the best one yet. By far, especially with our Thursday Night Cup in it now!

I haven’t it’s crap.

The majority of games are draws because of the changes, it’s like playing noughts and crosses now. The goals scored are typically because of mistakes rather than good play.

warrior · **#499506**

Babu III wrote:

WENGER WEDNESDAY.........

But where is the Wenger 'zipper' ?

Zed · **#499507**

warrior wrote:

Babu III wrote:

WENGER WEDNESDAY.........

But where is the Wenger 'zipper' ?

Water bottle? :42laughter:

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