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Gaz from Oz · **#493481**

kiwipete wrote:

Gaz from Oz wrote:

I just don't expect Kroenke to act. Of course this could be fatal to our chances of having Ramsay renewing or Bellerin remain at the club.

Well I have been drinking ... a few hefty rums ..... but if Bellerin f***s off to some other point on the planet I'll be a happy man except for speed I just can't figure out what that ponsy little sh**t with the stupid haircut offers .

No positional sense , slows ever play down the right hand side with a pass backwards , can't cross for sh***t , so often caught out of position , mediocre defender ....... Maricon .

PS What's happened to the Cowboys this season ...Thurston is getting a bit long in the tooth but you still have an awesome squad yet you've dropped off a cliff . 1 win 5 losses

The problem is that at least he has some idea and I think he could improve. Alternatively Chambers who I thought was taken apart again on the weekend would probably play more games in the position. If a few more players actually made runs and made themselves available for Bellerin maybe he wouldn't have to pass backwards.

Cowboys - I think a few of them read the papers and thought they were in the top 4. Now they look disjointed and I think Morgan is carrying an injury. Would not surprise me if he has to have an op.

AmericanGooner · **#493482**

I would have loved to get Martial. Too bad. Mourinho, like Wenger, seems to ruin some players via excluding them and ignoring them (Podolski couldn't buy a match).

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... l-14544511

AmericanGooner · **#493483**

We were once known for having one of the best scouting networks in Europe. Mustafi isn't good enough. He's a liability. Neville saying his former club couldn't give him away at one time because he was so bad, tells you how out of the loop our scouts are.

http://www.arsenalshorts.com/news/20180 ... rformances

AmericanGooner · **#493484**

When I first saw this headline, I was certain they were talking about Özil. Juve wanting an Arsenal star. Has to be Özil right? But no....

http://www.arsenalshorts.com/news/20180 ... rformances

TOP GUN · **#493485**

I think Some of Chambers performances have been frankly disasterous but I would be interested to see how he fared under a different manager who marshalled him better and knew his weaknesses as he is a player with some quality. I don’t think he’s the write off many think but Wenger isn’t helping him. You don’t send a centre half in his early twenties on the pitch without serious instruction and you just know that Arsene probably barely says a word to him. You could possibly apply this to Holding too.

gooner7 · **#493486**

Goonie is one of the last few believers of Wenger :53big-emoticons:

Sorry, my fellow mate, I went to the other side long time ago :icon_mrgreen:

TOP GUN · **#493487**

gooner7 wrote:

Goonie is one of the last few believers of Wenger :53big-emoticons:

Sorry, my fellow mate, I went to the other side long time ago :icon_mrgreen:

33 points off top position
More people watching arsenal fan TV every week than turning up to games
Whole defence needs replacing
No player of any credit willing to sign a new contract unless the wages are insane (cheers Mesut)
People celebrating mediocrity by lauding players like El Nenny
Wenger talking more nonsense than Trump

Yep that's right we're top of the world Ma!

Rich · **#493488**

TOP GUN wrote:

I think Some of Chambers performances have been frankly disasterous but I would be interested to see how he fared under a different manager who marshalled him better and knew his weaknesses as he is a player with some quality. I don’t think he’s the write off many think but Wenger isn’t helping him. You don’t send a centre half in his early twenties on the pitch without serious instruction and you just know that Arsene probably barely says a word to him. You could possibly apply this to Holding too.

Did chambers make these individual mistakes when on loan to Boro?

Rich · **#493489**

In my view wenger is failing in every single aspect of his role and expectations.

I struggle to think of a single thing he does well any more. I’m sure there are still those classy moments behind the scenes, showing his intelligence and dignity as a person but there is little there as a football manager any more.

Signings?
Improving players?
Training?
Tactics?
Set pieces?
Motivation?
Leadership?
Style of play?
Entertainment?
Youth players?

I’m really struggling

TOP GUN · **#493490**

Rich wrote:

TOP GUN wrote:

I think Some of Chambers performances have been frankly disasterous but I would be interested to see how he fared under a different manager who marshalled him better and knew his weaknesses as he is a player with some quality. I don’t think he’s the write off many think but Wenger isn’t helping him. You don’t send a centre half in his early twenties on the pitch without serious instruction and you just know that Arsene probably barely says a word to him. You could possibly apply this to Holding too.

Did chambers make these individual mistakes when on loan to Boro?

Not sure

I watched him versus Chelsea at Stamford bridge when I was entertaining a customer despite losing his performance seemed seemed more assured than with us. Not sure though

Rich · **#493491**

Reading that arsenal are charging Atletico away fans £40 per ticket, but they are charging our fans £79 for away fans.

Some people suggesting we should just charge Atletico fans exactly what they are charging us and use the £39 extra to subsidise Arsenal’s away fans for their trip to Spain.

Man U did this last season and it sounds like a great idea.

Gaz from Oz · **#493492**

We just had a morning breakfast news item from the UK about the hot day and how people were out enjoying the sunshine. I think this might be the turning point for our season. Suddenly our team puts it all together. The light is on - this is the omen we have been waiting for.

We thrash Atletico, we win the European trophy so many teams want to have in the boardroom, Wenger has his contract extended. Next season we do a clean sweep and win the lot. Goonie is carried into the stadium like a Greek God. On the other hand the weather could change tomorrow.

TOP GUN · **#493493**

Rich wrote:

Reading that arsenal are charging Atletico away fans £40 per ticket, but they are charging our fans £79 for away fans.

Some people suggesting we should just charge Atletico fans exactly what they are charging us and use the £39 extra to subsidise Arsenal’s away fans for their trip to Spain.

Man U did this last season and it sounds like a great idea.

It's a brilliant idea but can you see the lazy wankers running our club even caring about the fans

Goonie · **#493494**

Bernard wrote:

Goonie wrote:

The good thing abt Kroenke is that he doesn't interfere. But there has been changes in the background preparing for Wenger's eventual departure - appointment of Mislintat and two other guys whose names I can't remember. Plus our youths are in the Final.

As for Wenger, he has underperformed. Whoever our manager is next season, should be able to get at least 75 league points next season - we definitely have the players for that. Our away form this season is an anomaly.

As for our defence, I think Bellerin will stay, Kolasinac should improve and Monreal can give us one more season. If we can properly replace Mertesacker and relegate Koscielny to be our 4th CB with quality additions, our squad will be sttengthened significantly.

Kroenke is unambitious for trophies and gave Wenger a new contract. In my view that makes him a crap owner. So you think Wenger has underperformed but if we somehow fuke the Europa League you'd want him to stay? Hmmm! You think the squad we have should have more points than we do. I agree, but we haven't because of Wenger's mismanagement. I think that's a good reason to want him gone even if we do win the Europa League.

Wenger's KPI, I suspect is to qualify for CL. If winning the Europa League achieves this, no reason to sack him.

Goonie · **#493495**

gooner7 wrote:

Goonie is one of the last few believers of Wenger :53big-emoticons:

Sorry, my fellow mate, I went to the other side long time ago :icon_mrgreen:

Wenger has underperformed. Our away form is abysmal. All I'm saying is we have a good squad that will perform better next season be it under Wenger or a new manager. Proper replacement for Mertesacker and we'll improve considerably. Don't think it's a coincidence we have not finished top four with Mertesacker hardly playing the past two seasons. We saw the difference he made in the FA Cup final.

And I'm not sure why it's so controversial to suggest the club is in good shape. We are still a big club that can attract likes of Auba and Laca. The club has been preparing for Wenger's evnrtual departure. And we have good young players coming up.

gooner7 · **#493496**

Goonie wrote:

gooner7 wrote:

Goonie is one of the last few believers of Wenger :53big-emoticons:

Sorry, my fellow mate, I went to the other side long time ago :icon_mrgreen:

Wenger has underperformed. Our away form is abysmal. All I'm saying is we have a good squad that will perform better next season be it under Wenger or a new manager. Proper replacement for Mertesacker and we'll improve considerably. Don't think it's a coincidence we have not finished top four with Mertesacker hardly playing the past two seasons. We saw the difference he made in the FA Cup final.

And I'm not sure why it's so controversial to suggest the club is in good shape. We are still a big club that can attract likes of Auba and Laca. The club has been preparing for Wenger's evnrtual departure. And we have good young players coming up.

Cheers Goonie, just differing opinions we have

Gaz from Oz · **#493497**

Goonie wrote:

Bernard wrote:

Kroenke is unambitious for trophies and gave Wenger a new contract. In my view that makes him a crap owner. So you think Wenger has underperformed but if we somehow fuke the Europa League you'd want him to stay? Hmmm! You think the squad we have should have more points than we do. I agree, but we haven't because of Wenger's mismanagement. I think that's a good reason to want him gone even if we do win the Europa League.

Wenger's KPI, I suspect is to qualify for CL. If winning the Europa League achieves this, no reason to sack him.

I think one of his self imposed KPI's this season was to get 85 points.
http://www.football365.com/news/wenger- ... -the-title

AmericanGooner · **#493498**

I don't want Man Utd to get to 13 FA cup wins. Nor do I want Tottenham to get a trophy. Hmm...Okay, Tottenham wins the semi and loses to Southampton but problem is i doubt Soton gets to the final. I'll hold my nose and go with Chelsea if Soton loses.

Bernard · **#493499**

Gaz from Oz wrote:

Goonie wrote:

Wenger's KPI, I suspect is to qualify for CL. If winning the Europa League achieves this, no reason to sack him.

I think one of his self imposed KPI's this season was to get 85 points.
http://www.football365.com/news/wenger- ... -the-title

The club is going downhill under Wenger and will decline further if he stays. That is a reason to sack him. We can't even filll the Emirates these days.

Bernard · **#493500**

Goonie wrote:

Wenger has underperformed. Our away form is abysmal. All I'm saying is we have a good squad that will perform better next season be it under Wenger or a new manager. Proper replacement for Mertesacker and we'll improve considerably. Don't think it's a coincidence we have not finished top four with Mertesacker hardly playing the past two seasons. We saw the difference he made in the FA Cup final.

And I'm not sure why it's so controversial to suggest the club is in good shape. We are still a big club that can attract likes of Auba and Laca. The club has been preparing for Wenger's evnrtual departure. And we have good young players coming up.

You said it yourself, Wenger has underperformed. I'll go further and say he has done for some while. That's a reason to sack him, regardless of any cup success, even if the Europa League turns out to be our route back into the Champions League next season.

Why do you think the squad will perform better under Wenger next season, if he stays? Is it just replacing Mertesacker? I do agree with you about the impact of losing him. Mertesacker in my view was seriously undervalued by some Arsenal fans. But I thought Wenger was supposed to have already replaced him with the £35m he spent on Mustafi. Also, I bet Lacazette regrets joining Arsenal after being Wengerised.

TOP GUN · **#493501**

Bernard wrote:

Gaz from Oz wrote:

I think one of his self imposed KPI's this season was to get 85 points.
http://www.football365.com/news/wenger- ... -the-title

The club is going downhill under Wenger and will decline further if he stays. That is a reason to sack him. We can't even filll the Emirates these days.

He doesn't see it as a problem ..

Wenger says empty seats at Emirates are "not a big concern. Our crowd is pretty solid at the moment. … I believe we have a very faithful crowd, faithful fans, who will always be there to support the club."

And he adds: "We are sold out in every single game, so I don’t know where the problem is at the moment.”

Bernard · **#493502**

TOP GUN wrote:

Bernard wrote:

The club is going downhill under Wenger and will decline further if he stays. That is a reason to sack him. We can't even filll the Emirates these days.

He doesn't see it as a problem ..

Wenger says empty seats at Emirates are "not a big concern. Our crowd is pretty solid at the moment. … I believe we have a very faithful crowd, faithful fans, who will always be there to support the club."

And he adds: "We are sold out in every single game, so I don’t know where the problem is at the moment.”

Anyone who doesn't think it's a problem that only around two-thirds of season ticket holders bother going, despite having paid to attend the game, is a moron.

TOP GUN · **#493503**

Bernard wrote:

TOP GUN wrote:

He doesn't see it as a problem ..

Wenger says empty seats at Emirates are "not a big concern. Our crowd is pretty solid at the moment. … I believe we have a very faithful crowd, faithful fans, who will always be there to support the club."

And he adds: "We are sold out in every single game, so I don’t know where the problem is at the moment.”

Anyone who doesn't think it's a problem that only around two-thirds of season ticket holders bother going, despite having paid to attend the game, is a moron.

The comment is a snide deliberate dig at the fans. I think he views our supporters as inconvenient and something that hinder him now and just have to be tolerated. If he does leave this season and they announced it beforehand so they could have some sort of presentation I do wonder how many of our fans would stay behind and turn up.

Gaz from Oz · **#493504**

Kiwi, I think you spent a fair bit of time in the bush at mining sites so you might like this Utube of trucks in Oz and some of the animals encountered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GIJQLc-Ntw

Must say I have never been inconvenienced by camels but birds, roos, cattle, sheep and emus have proved a challenge at times. Been in 2 cars that hit roos and I hit an eagle once and it flipped the bonnet on my HQ Monaro at 90 mph. The rest were close shaves for me.

tomc · **#493505**

Bernard wrote:

TOP GUN wrote:

He doesn't see it as a problem ..

Wenger says empty seats at Emirates are "not a big concern. Our crowd is pretty solid at the moment. … I believe we have a very faithful crowd, faithful fans, who will always be there to support the club."

And he adds: "We are sold out in every single game, so I don’t know where the problem is at the moment.”

Anyone who doesn't think it's a problem that only around two-thirds of season ticket holders bother going, despite having paid to attend the game, is a moron.

Just as he'll blame anyone but himself for the woeful state the club is in, he'll deny there is any problem with the fans. I accused him of being deluded a couple of weeks back. I was wrong. He knows exactly what is going on but just chooses to ignore or deny it. Selfish, greedy, self-centred old man who is now shite at his job but can't bear to give up his status as Arsenal manager and do what is right by the club. Seeing the back of him when it eventually happens will be like winning a trophy.

DHD · **#493506**

"We are sold out in every single game, so I don’t know where the problem is at the moment.”

We are most definitely NOT sold out every single game. None of the recent games have sold out. Chelsea was probably the last sell-out on 3rd January. I'm not even sure we sold our full allocation of Cup Final tickets.

Bernard is correct - at least a third of the season-ticket holders don't attend any more. I think it could well be half but some pass on or sell their tickets privately, though from personal experience, there isn't much interest.

If AW can't see that there's a problem, he should be relieved of his duties on medical grounds.

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