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Post #507281  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:25 pm 
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In amongst the wreckage of the ESL, we can all point at those responsible for the debacle. We all know who they are and there’s been enough reference to them in the media to allow us to appreciate how much we hate them.

Hold on though. Nowhere in the miles of column inches have I heard any mention of Martin Edwards or Danny Fiszman. Alan Sugar anyone? Ken Bates, David Dein or John Moores? Nina Bracewell-Bollox? These are the old school Directors to whom we now hark back with fondness. They ran the clubs when they were ours. Ha. They’re the bunch who quite knowingly sold the heritage of their clubs to new Owners who knew little and cared less about rich histories and traditions. Begs the question whether any of them cared at all or gave a stuff about their clubs beyond their soaring values. They all scuttled off (in Danny’s case shuffled off) pockets bulging with money that had been poured into the Clubs by us poor saps. Fans’ money built and sustained all those clubs. Ironically, we also paid the SKY subscriptions that caused the clubs’ values to skyrocket. But we were sold off back then along with the bronze busts and the marble.

In the same way that FIFA stole world football and UEFA wormed themselves into a position where they can milk the top European clubs, those fine old British Owners did for our game. Rot their eyes.


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Post #507283  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:49 pm 
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We're very capable of winning tonight. If we play to the level of the importance of the game, we should win. However, knowing how inconsistent we are, I'll take a draw right now if offered a result.

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Post #507284  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:30 pm 
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In amongst the wreckage of the ESL, we can all point at those responsible for the debacle. We all know who they are and there’s been enough reference to them in the media to allow us to appreciate how much we hate them.

Hold on though. Nowhere in the miles of column inches have I heard any mention of Martin Edwards or Danny Fiszman. Alan Sugar anyone? Ken Bates, David Dein or John Moores? Nina Bracewell-Bollox? These are the old school Directors to whom we now hark back with fondness. They ran the clubs when they were ours. Ha. They’re the bunch who quite knowingly sold the heritage of their clubs to new Owners who knew little and cared less about rich histories and traditions. Begs the question whether any of them cared at all or gave a stuff about their clubs beyond their soaring values. They all scuttled off (in Danny’s case shuffled off) pockets bulging with money that had been poured into the Clubs by us poor saps. Fans’ money built and sustained all those clubs. Ironically, we also paid the SKY subscriptions that caused the clubs’ values to skyrocket. But we were sold off back then along with the bronze busts and the marble.

In the same way that FIFA stole world football and UEFA wormed themselves into a position where they can milk the top European clubs, those fine old British Owners did for our game. Rot their eyes.

All horribly true. I have been reflecting on just that recently.

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All horribly true. I have been reflecting on just that recently.


Did the board have a choice beyond Kroenke and Usmanov? Going back in time, what should they have done with the aforementioned having bought into the club?
I'm asking because as I understand it there were only 2 choices. Was that inaccurate?

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Post #507286  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:06 pm 
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Just back from the demo at the Emirates. Impressive turn out and some great banners. No mention of ESL I could see - all about getting KSE out.
Fingers crossed it has some impact.


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Team as expected the only debate was whether Nketiah or Martinelli starts up top....and it’s Nketiah.

Nelson is on the bench but I struggle to see literally any scenario where he feasibly comes on the pitch. Also on the bench are Willian, Martinelli and Ødegaard who would all come on in front of him for any injury to an attacking player or any desire for us to go all out attack.


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Post #507288  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:13 pm 
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Team as expected the only debate was whether Nketiah or Martinelli starts up top....and it’s Nketiah.

Nelson is on the bench but I struggle to see literally any scenario where he feasibly comes on the pitch. Also on the bench are Willian, Martinelli and Ødegaard who would all come on in front of him for any injury to an attacking player or any desire for us to go all out attack.

I've got a good feeling about this one.
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Strong team. View of what the future holds for us.

Worried we don't produce our current seasons form at home.

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Just back from the demo at the Emirates. Impressive turn out and some great banners. No mention of ESL I could see - all about getting KSE out.
Fingers crossed it has some impact.

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long time gooner wrote:
Yellowquadrant wrote:
Just back from the demo at the Emirates. Impressive turn out and some great banners. No mention of ESL I could see - all about getting KSE out.
Fingers crossed it has some impact.

Cat - Hell - Chance


Possibly, but it’s good to protest. And how else will he go?

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john1 wrote:
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Cat - Hell - Chance


Possibly, but it’s good to protest. And how else will he go?

If he goes then it won’t be as the result of any demonstration. Sadly.

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long time gooner wrote:
john1 wrote:

Possibly, but it’s good to protest. And how else will he go?

If he goes then it won’t be as the result of any demonstration. Sadly.


Maybe not. But the publicity is good surely? (Or not good if you’re Kroenke)

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Wonderful inspired incisive commentary.

*Good throw, but too long for Saka”.

So....

.... not a good throw then.

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long time gooner wrote:
Wonderful inspired incisive commentary.

*Good throw, but too long for Saka”.

So....

.... not a good throw then.


I hope that wasn’t our Smudger


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Come on Arsenal. Kroenke out.


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Protests look superb. The fact he won’t go is neither here nor there because it’s important Kroenke knows what we think of him and what he’s done to our club. I hope it keeps going

I notice the founder of Spotify said if Arsenal came on the market he would be interested


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it’s important Kroenke knows what we think of him and what he’s done to our club.

Of no interest to him whatsoever. In much the same way that I would be affected by what an ant thinks.

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TOP GUN wrote:
Protests look superb. The fact he won’t go is neither here nor there because it’s important Kroenke knows what we think of him and what he’s done to our club. I hope it keeps going

I notice the founder of Spotify said if Arsenal came on the market he would be interested


Yes great turnout.

And is that the police helicopter or the news constantly flying over?

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I notice the founder of Spotify said if Arsenal came on the market he would be interested

Daniel Ek only has a fortune of $4.7b. He’s basically a pauper. I doubt Stan would think of selling for £2.0b, so it would take even more than that. I don’t see how Ek could afford to buy Arsenal without taking on huge loans, as I believe Glazer did when he bought Manchester United. Is that really what we want?

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Calvert-Lewin leading with the arm in the face of Mari, not an elbow and not looking for the player but could easily be a yellow for recklessness


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long time gooner wrote:
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it’s important Kroenke knows what we think of him and what he’s done to our club.

Of no interest to him whatsoever. In much the same way that I would be affected by what an ant thinks.

I agree LTG. Will Stan even get to know about tonight’s demonstration let alone be concerned about it?


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long time gooner wrote:
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it’s important Kroenke knows what we think of him and what he’s done to our club.

Of no interest to him whatsoever. In much the same way that I would be affected by what an ant thinks.

You’ll be shocked at how egotistical some of these American billionaires are and that news will reach him.

Better to have believed in something and said it than not


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Everton playing Richarlison and Calvert Lewin up top which means some form of defensive duty for Rodrigues and Sigurdsson - neither are great at that. That's where we need to make it pay. Partey has already beasted Rodriguez off the ball in a dangerous area


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I notice the founder of Spotify said if Arsenal came on the market he would be interested

Daniel Ek only has a fortune of $4.7b. He’s basically a pauper. I doubt Stan would think of selling for £2.0b, so it would take even more than that. I don’t see how Ek could afford to buy Arsenal without taking on huge loans, as I believe Glazer did when he bought Manchester United. Is that really what we want?

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Moss books Partey, a nothing tackle.


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Partey will be off next foul

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Partey at risk of a second yellow

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There are so many niggly fouls from Everton that Moss is just not seeing. Gomes went late and through Partey earlier but because Arsenal had the ball he played advantage and the rather crude foul is completely forgotten


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Partey will be off next foul

That turned out to be untrue. He just got away with one that was more worthy of a yellow.

He does need to take care though.

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john1 wrote:
Partey will be off next foul

Ha, if he is that is an absolute farce. He's made 3 fouls and been booked on the second one. I don't think any player has ever been sent off for a second yellow for totting up after the first foul when it is only 2 on the totting up!
Remember Bissouma was allowed 6 fouls without a yellow against us and Ayew was allowed 7 fouls without a yellow against us. Both records in the prem


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Of no interest to him whatsoever. In much the same way that I would be affected by what an ant thinks.

You’ll be shocked at how egotistical some of these American billionaires are and that news will reach him.

Better to have believed in something and said it than not

A bit like shouting at the tv. Might make you feel good but has zero impact.

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Partey will be off next foul

That turned out to be untrue. He just got away with one that was more worthy of a yellow.

He does need to take care though.

I made the post after the tackle I think you’re referring to

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long time gooner wrote:
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You’ll be shocked at how egotistical some of these American billionaires are and that news will reach him.

Better to have believed in something and said it than not

A bit like shouting at the tv. Might make you feel good but has zero impact.


If it makes you feel good it does have an impact surely?

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john1 wrote:
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That turned out to be untrue. He just got away with one that was more worthy of a yellow.

He does need to take care though.

I made the post after the tackle I think you’re referring to

In which case I reckon that you are spot on.

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john1 wrote:
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A bit like shouting at the tv. Might make you feel good but has zero impact.


If it makes you feel good it does have an impact surely?

Er,,no. Not really.

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Daniel Ek, the founder of Spotify has posted on twitter that he's always been an Arsenal fan and if Kronke wants to sell he'll "throw his hat in the ring"

Ek has an estimated wealth of £4.3billion. about half of Kronke's wealth and to my knowledge no inllaws who are even richer than him like Kronke!


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I went to the protest. It was good actually, more like an Arsenal away game as a good atmosphere.


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I went to the protest. It was good actually, more like an Arsenal away game as a good atmosphere.


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