Should be easy for Arsenal to win the ESL now. Just a few clubs left to beat then.

Should be easy for Arsenal to win the ESL now. Just a few clubs left to beat then.

Maybe this ESL development has rocked football for one overriding reason - it blatantly confirms, with no pretence, that there is an elite league within the Premiership, not just in terms of affording the best players and winning trophies but also more importantly in attracting paying viewers. We all know this is the reality, and as sweet as it was when Leicester broke the cartel, we also knew that was a rare thing. All the other clubs know this too, and while they may be put out right now, when the inevitable compromise is made they will quite readily resume 'friendly' relations with the six. The gravy train will continue to run - the first class carriages will just be bigger. It is extremely hard to warm to any of the owners of the six, but you can't say they are trying to dupe anybody. They know they have the power and are being straightforward in using it.

If, and it is very unlikely, the six are thrown out of the Premiership, then the other clubs will have a beter chance of winning the competition, albeit with less money in their pockets.

Apparently Ed Woodwood has resigned......................please let Stan be next to go

That didn't last long did it.

Nobody moan, though, when we have no money to spend in the summer and are still churning out the same old *%^@ in midtable next season, without even any european football. :laughing7:

Will kroenke follow suit now Chelsea and man city have pulled out.
Surely the little weasel will not want to feel the heat and continued backlash.
I pray this forces him out.

I realize this is tongue in cheek, but I've seen a lot of similiar sentiments from Arsenal fans the last few days and I don't really understand the thinking. First of all, all the other big clubs from the PL would be in the Super League (unimportant sidenote, but what a horribly unimaginative name that is) so it wouldn't close the gap on any of them, just widen the gap to the rest of the league.

Second of all, plenty of teams have shown you can be competitive without the type of super spending some fans crave; Liverpool, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund have all competed for the big titles recently without spending like Chelsea and City. You need the right manager (and we'll see if Arteta is the right guy) and you need to sign the right players. Same as it has always been really.

Question is, where do we go from here. Kroenke, by being one of the main proponents of the new league, has shown he believes that is the way for Arsenal to become a competitive force again. He clearly does not believe he can do it under the current circumstances, level of income and level of spending.
It's alright for City and Chelsea to take the moral high ground because they have owners with bottomless pockets prepared to spend their money.

Apparently Ed Woodwood has resigned......................please let Stan be next to go

I realize this is tongue in cheek, but I've seen a lot of similiar sentiments from Arsenal fans the last few days and I don't really understand the thinking. First of all, all the other big clubs from the PL would be in the Super League (unimportant sidenote, but what a horribly unimaginative name that is) so it wouldn't close the gap on any of them, just widen the gap to the rest of the league.

Second of all, plenty of teams have shown you can be competitive without the type of super spending some fans crave; Liverpool, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund have all competed for the big titles recently without spending like Chelsea and City. You need the right manager (and we'll see if Arteta is the right guy) and you need to sign the right players. Same as it has always been really.

Hi Soc
He should sell up and give it to someone who gives a damn about us.
No better time for the weasel to piss off

Even if Arteta is the answer, without significant money to spend he'd have to be a genius, or incredibly lucky (or both) to get us competing at the top end again.

Why? If, for the sake of argument, Arteta is the answer; why would it be impossible for us to do what Liverpool have done under Klopp?

Coz he’ll need 300 million quids worth of new players and the fans aren’t patient enough to wait 5 minutes

Why? If, for the sake of argument, Arteta is the answer; why would it be impossible for us to do what Liverpool have done under Klopp?

Real Madrid and Barcelona definitely need the money.

Of course it would mean expanded budget. The kroenkes no matter how bad they are aren’t stealing our cash for themselves they just aren’t investing their own.

Liverpool created the perfect storm. Some brilliantly astute under the radar signings (Mané and Salah), a brilliant youth product coming through (TAA) but crucially the incredible revenue from sales of Countinho for £120m to finance VVD and Allison and also selling fringe players like Brewster for £23.5m.

It would be very hard to replicate that, as Liverpool are finding out now with some signings not working out recently.

I hope we can do it but realistically I see it being an uphill struggle.

Crazy developments now. Rumours that Agnelli has resigned as president of Juventus, and the Glazers are looking to sell.

It'll have to happen gradually of course, Liverpool didn't sign all their good players in one summer either. But if Arteta (again for the sake of argument) is the right guy to take us forward, then we will improve if we keep signing players like Tierney, Partey, Martinelli, Gabriel and Pépé, who have all arrived in the last two summers. Think people sometimes makes it sound more complicated than it is really.

Why should they. That's the whole point for them. Compounded interest income.

Awe yes. The Kroenkes looking after Arsenals assets, interests and welfare as always, when fans think an ESL will propel the club into glamourous heights of notoriety. Don't forget 'be excited' while they're laughing all the way to the bank.

Liverpool created the perfect storm. Some brilliantly astute under the radar signings (Mané and Salah), a brilliant youth product coming through (TAA) but crucially the incredible revenue from sales of Countinho for £120m to finance VVD and Allison and also selling fringe players like Brewster for £23.5m.

It would be very hard to replicate that, as Liverpool are finding out now with some signings not working out recently.

I hope we can do it but realistically I see it being an uphill struggle.

Why do you say he was one of the main proponents? My understanding is that, just like city, chavs and spuds, we were only invited to join after Liverpool and united, along with Madrid and Barca had basically set this up... basically in the last 10 days

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Our fans don’t understand it’s a process. Klopp lost 12 games and finished 8th in his first season but the Liverpool fans could see a structure was being formed. Arteta has won the fa cup and our lot are advocating his dismissal in his first full season if he doesn’t win a European trophy.

Nobody is saying he should be sacked for failing to win the Europa League. It is the quite dismal form across the whole season that is the issue.

Not here but many are, and wait in the event of us going out or losing the final. Our exit seems to be some final straw, the seasons form is not indifferent to Klopps “dismal” first as I pointed out

Floyd / Chauvin verdict is in.

Announcement due any moment.