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Post #353921  Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:41 pm 
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"Reynolds told the officer, "You shot four bullets into him, sir. He was just getting his license and registration, sir."[3][26] Reynolds also said "Please don't tell me he's dead", while Yanez exclaimed: "I told him not to reach for it! I told him to get his hand open!"[28]

At one point in the video footage, an officer orders Reynolds to get on her knees and the sound of Reynolds being handcuffed can be heard. Reynolds' phone falls onto the ground but continues recording, and an officer periodically yells, "*%^@!"[37] Video from the squad car of Joseph Kauser (where Reynolds and her daughter were put after Reynolds was handcuffed), shows Reynolds' daughter telling her, "Mom, please stop cussing and screaming 'cause I don't want you to get shooted. Reynolds was taken into custody, questioned at a police station, and released the following morning around 5:00 a.m"

i.e. imprisoned overnight because the cops shot her partner for nothing.

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Heard on the radio this morning that next seasons European Super Cup Final will be held in Belfast!! Here's hoping to see the arse back in town, been a while.


Really? I would LOVE to visit Belfast. As soon as this covid19 mess is over, I'm heading to games. It's interesting, the pandemic has made me feel a certain way of not being able to make games that I didn't make a great enough effort to go to prior.

I'm definitely going to some when we're able to go to it live. PS: I'll be wearing the Mustafi shirt. :1laughter:

Get yourself over then American.

One/two days would be enough for Belfast, then get yourself off to Derry, Galway, Dublin, Kerry etc. Best way to do Ireland is tour around.

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I'd rather be playing Utd in a one off game than over two legs.

Heard on the radio this morning that next seasons European Super Cup Final will be held in Belfast!! Here's hoping to see the arse back in town, been a while.


The shorter the better. If we could make it a T20 cricket match or a coin toss, I'd take that. United are pretty scary at the moment. They haven't lost in the league or Europe since January (and that was a freak loss against Sheffield United.

Yeah, I'm hoping for Roma tbh.

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But far less than it used to. Furthermore the knee taking is now so perfunctory and done so often it has lost its meaning if ever it had any. Certainly racists aren't going to change their ways because a bunch of highly paid players kneel down.

I suppose the question has to be whether ‘taking the knee’ does anything to reduce racism? I presume that cannot have been proven one way or the other considering the only player I’m aware of who has stopped doing it is Crystal Palace’s Wilfred Zaha, who is obviously black himself.

I think it’s noticeable that with every single live game shown on telly, as far as those I’ve seen the start of anyway, the commentators always make a point of saying why it’s being done. They must have been told to do so, I’m guessing to stop people forgetting why players are doing it. Without commentators doing that, would I have forgotten why it ever started? I’d like to think my memory isn’t quite so bad to have no idea at all why it started, but in years to come it would probably be no more than something in the ‘back of my mind’.

I’m not saying ‘taking the knee’ should be stopped, but I’m not convinced it does anything useful to stop racism either. It does sometimes strike me as football doing a flimsy bit of pretending to do something worthwhile, when I’m not sure it is. I feel there are measures that are immeasurably more important that could be done such as in children’s education and stopping online racial abuse, for just two examples.

I think the main thing football has done is make black players heroes to white kids and vice versa. What white kid who supported Arsenal at the time couldn’t have seen Henry, Vieira and Campbell as heroes; and what black kid who supported Arsenal couldn’t have seen Bergkamp, Petit and Adams as heroes? Hopefully exactly the same thing applies to modern white kids with Saka and black kids with Smith Rowe. The same thing will apply with young fans at other clubs.

Who was the first black player to play for Arsenal? I don't know the answer and am not going to google it - but going to guess Viv Anderson.

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Our club told Mesut Özil to shut up for the temerity of mentioning an ongoing genocide. Somehow that racism seems not to be worthy of mention. I smell virtue signalling.

He conducted himself in a professional, and I think, inspiring way.

True, and an superb image it was - and I agree with whoever said earlier - seeing the ref doing it as well in the picture was also awesome.

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This is Emery's competition. Look at how many finals he's been to in the last several years and with 2 different sides and now trying with a 3rd side. For whatever reason the football gods have blessed him in this competition. I'm not counting our chickens. We have yet to put back to back great outings. I'm taking a 'wait and see' approach. I know I sound like a wet blanket but I'm not going to get too emotionally invested in this seasons side now. They've teased me and let me down more times than Shawnell Thompson in HS. (She's since married and changed her name so you can't look her up to see what she looks like :icon_mrgreen: )

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What do you see in the Prague team in that photo?
Didn't figure it would be mentioned on here that there are 6 black players in the Prague side, from Liberia, Ivory Coast, Senegal. One possibly mixed race who's Danish named Alexander Bah.
I noticed this before our 2 EL matches against Prague. Many black players are on many Euro teams. How racism impacts them personally and directly, I don't know. Whether taking the knee or in Zaha's case 'taking a stand' is no different. From what I understand is Zaha doesn't want taking the knee to be a spectacle or weakness and reflect away from the real racist issues, so he stands to show strength.

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Sorry what am I looking for ?

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Zed wrote:
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Sorry what am I looking for ?

TG,
One black player. Not sure if he was the only one.

Sorry I meant in the standing Prague players.

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Zed wrote:
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The taking a knee is primarily restricted to the English speaking world where ironically enough racism is not as big a problem as it is in other parts of the world.

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Austin is a unique city. It's not the just state capital of Texas. It's progressive. There is Texas and there is Austin. It's the San Francisco of Texas so to speak. I'm happy for them and I'm cheering for the team and sport to succeed there. I have friends there as well.

....and similar well wishes for Becks in Miami. I owe football a lot. Because its a global sport, I've been able to have a ready topic for small talk to just about any man world wide and most women. It's probably the biggest unifier of random people I ever seen.

https://www.statesman.com/story/sports/2021/04/14/austin-fc-matthew-mcconaughey-talks-mls-season-celebrating-austin/7212321002/

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Austin is a unique city. It's not the just state capital of Texas. It's progressive. There is Texas and there is Austin. It's the San Francisco of Texas so to speak. I'm happy for them and I'm cheering for the team and sport to succeed there. I have friends there as well.

....and similar well wishes for Becks in Miami. I owe football a lot. Because its a global sport, I've been able to have a ready topic for small talk to just about any man world wide and most women. It's probably the biggest unifier of random people I ever seen.

https://www.statesman.com/story/sports/2021/04/14/austin-fc-matthew-mcconaughey-talks-mls-season-celebrating-austin/7212321002/

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Austin. Home to the man who won seven Tour de France in a row. Or was it zero?

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Well who would have expected that? He’s gone up even further in my estimation.

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Who was the first black player to play for Arsenal? I don't know the answer and am not going to google it - but going to guess Viv Anderson.

Shame on you :icon_mrgreen1: .....the answer is someone who went on be deputy CEO of the PFA

That doesn't help me, unfortunately. Viv and Paul Davis played when I was young. And I've just remembered the name Raphael Meade from somewhere. That was a great recall if I say so myself :icon_mrgreen:

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Shame on you :icon_mrgreen1: .....the answer is someone who went on be deputy CEO of the PFA

That doesn't help me, unfortunately. Viv and Paul Davis played when I was young. And I've just remembered the name Raphael Meade from somewhere. That was a great recall if I say so myself :icon_mrgreen:

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If we get past Villarreal I dont think my nerves /health could handle a final against Utd.
Losing to Chelsea in Baku was bad enough but losing to those tossers would be excruciating.
I'm praying Roma can knock them out but are they strong enough to? I have my doubts.
Can only hope and pray.
Utd are a very good team but so are we on our day.
But first Villarreal......

Could've been worse David. It could have been Tottenham in a two leg semi final. Now that would have had your blood pressure rising. And mine.

I'd look no farther than Villarreal for now. Far from the foregone conclusion that some in the media seem to think. Roma won't lie down for Man U either.


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Austin is a unique city. It's not the just state capital of Texas. It's progressive. There is Texas and there is Austin. It's the San Francisco of Texas so to speak. I'm happy for them and I'm cheering for the team and sport to succeed there. I have friends there as well.

....and similar well wishes for Becks in Miami. I owe football a lot. Because its a global sport, I've been able to have a ready topic for small talk to just about any man world wide and most women. It's probably the biggest unifier of random people I ever seen.

https://www.statesman.com/story/sports/2021/04/14/austin-fc-matthew-mcconaughey-talks-mls-season-celebrating-austin/7212321002/

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/sports/2021/04/16/matthew-mcconaughey-austin-fc-mls-texas-longhorns-football-spt-intl.cnn

Austin. Home to the man who won seven Tour de France in a row. Or was it zero?


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Niall, Brendan Batson. Better known for his time at WBA, but started off at Arsenal.


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That doesn't help me, unfortunately. Viv and Paul Davis played when I was young. And I've just remembered the name Raphael Meade from somewhere. That was a great recall if I say so myself :icon_mrgreen:

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Just seen tomc beat me to it. Wasn’t on the forum all afternoon and while out my battery expired.

Must be my weird humour. That brought to mind an image of you being a Duracell bunny.

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Well who would have expected that? He’s gone up even further in my estimation.

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If we get past Villarreal I dont think my nerves /health could handle a final against Utd.
Losing to Chelsea in Baku was bad enough but losing to those tossers would be excruciating.
I'm praying Roma can knock them out but are they strong enough to? I have my doubts.
Can only hope and pray.
Utd are a very good team but so are we on our day.
But first Villarreal......

Could've been worse David. It could have been Tottenham in a two leg semi final. Now that would have had your blood pressure rising. And mine.

I'd look no farther than Villarreal for now. Far from the foregone conclusion that some in the media seem to think. Roma won't lie down for Man U either.

Perish the thought Tom.
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Good result for us if spurs everton stays at 2 2.
Beat Fulham and we are 2 behind Spurs and 1 behind Everton.
Would have a real chance of nicking 7th.
Think it goes down to 7th if city win the caraboa and city or Chelsea win the fa cup
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Never heard of Batson I would never have got that. Cheers lads

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Good result for us if spurs everton stays at 2 2.
Beat Fulham and we are 2 behind Spurs and 1 behind Everton.
Would have a real chance of nicking 7th.
Think it goes down to 7th if city win the caraboa and city or Chelsea win the fa cup
Need a back up plan if Europa goes tits up.......

It is a bit different next year.
7th gets a European place of both domestic cups are won by teams in 1st-6th place. But it is a place in the new Europa conference league competition, a 3rd European competition. The Europa league will be reduced from 48 teams to 32 teams.
So I think 7th gets europe but it’s the conference league. If we did end up in this competition I have the feeling we’d be by far the strongest team in it and it would probably be one the kids play a lot in


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I’ve seen it said (I’m sure by me as well at some point) that ‘how lucky we are to have smith-Rowe and saka, and this isn’t having a go at anyone who has said it but in reality producing two youth players through our academy since they were both maybe 8 or so years old, and getting them to a level good enough to not only play in but be shining stars for our first team is an incredible feat by the club. I’d say it is far, far harder for the club to produce the likes of smith Rowe and Saka than it is to go and identify and sign a player of similar quality.
The current group having just come through the academy is pretty exceptional, even if some of them are not quite good enough for our first team I’d back all of them to have careers in the premier league.


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Just rewatching some of the Sparta game. I don’t often praise referees but he was pretty good and was very calm when it got a bit tense between players.

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I’ve seen it said (I’m sure by me as well at some point) that ‘how lucky we are to have smith-Rowe and saka, and this isn’t having a go at anyone who has said it but in reality producing two youth players through our academy since they were both maybe 8 or so years old, and getting them to a level good enough to not only play in but be shining stars for our first team is an incredible feat by the club. I’d say it is far, far harder for the club to produce the likes of smith Rowe and Saka than it is to go and identify and sign a player of similar quality.
The current group having just come through the academy is pretty exceptional, even if some of them are not quite good enough for our first team I’d back all of them to have careers in the premier league.


Should AW be getting credit for this? He was in charge of Arsenal when these kids were starting out. He would have seen through their progress as well. I'm wondering.

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Just rewatching some of the Sparta game. I don’t often praise referees but he was pretty good and was very calm when it got a bit tense between players.

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I’ve seen it said (I’m sure by me as well at some point) that ‘how lucky we are to have smith-Rowe and saka, and this isn’t having a go at anyone who has said it but in reality producing two youth players through our academy since they were both maybe 8 or so years old, and getting them to a level good enough to not only play in but be shining stars for our first team is an incredible feat by the club. I’d say it is far, far harder for the club to produce the likes of smith Rowe and Saka than it is to go and identify and sign a player of similar quality.
The current group having just come through the academy is pretty exceptional, even if some of them are not quite good enough for our first team I’d back all of them to have careers in the premier league.


Should AW be getting credit for this? He was in charge of Arsenal when these kids were starting out. He would have seen through their progress as well. I'm wondering.

In theory yes AW should receive some of the credit. I think if he was still the manager the likes of Saka and Smith-Rowe would definitely have been given the same first team opportunities.
I’m not sure how much direct influence the first team manager would have on the careers of youth team players from ages 8-15 for example, Hodd would be able to give a better view on that.

I’d imagine you give the AW credit for the overall philosophy of the club and the importance he placed on youth development, but actually turning an 8 year old kid in to a premier league ready professional footballer must surely mostly be down to the youth coaches, at least for the first 80% or so of their development.


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Good result for us if spurs everton stays at 2 2.
Beat Fulham and we are 2 behind Spurs and 1 behind Everton.
Would have a real chance of nicking 7th.
Think it goes down to 7th if city win the caraboa and city or Chelsea win the fa cup
Need a back up plan if Europa goes tits up.......

It's not quite in our hands, but 7th place is up for grabs. We have no excuses for not being completely focussed on the Fulham game. If we win that, Everton will be feeling a bit of pressure and we will have the momentum.

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Rich wrote:
I’ve seen it said (I’m sure by me as well at some point) that ‘how lucky we are to have smith-Rowe and saka, and this isn’t having a go at anyone who has said it but in reality producing two youth players through our academy since they were both maybe 8 or so years old, and getting them to a level good enough to not only play in but be shining stars for our first team is an incredible feat by the club. I’d say it is far, far harder for the club to produce the likes of smith Rowe and Saka than it is to go and identify and sign a player of similar quality.
The current group having just come through the academy is pretty exceptional, even if some of them are not quite good enough for our first team I’d back all of them to have careers in the premier league.

It is remarkable and laudable indeed.

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In 22 years AW only came to Hale End once, and that was to officially open the David Rocastle dome
He was great at promoting players from the 18’s and 23’s, but had pretty much zero input before that
Liam Brady would have been academy director when most of the current crop were signed

Thanks Hodd. What’s your thoughts on the work Mertesacker is doing now with the academy? It’s easy to like Per, he seems like he commands respect, thinks and talks about the game well but I’d have no idea how that all comes out in his actual work.
I also saw the youth team beat West Ham in the youth cup last night, with Omari Hutchinson grabbing the headlines again, I read he’s 17 which really puts in to perspective what someone like Jude Bellingham is doing at the same age.
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Should AW be getting credit for this? He was in charge of Arsenal when these kids were starting out. He would have seen through their progress as well. I'm wondering.

In 22 years AW only came to Hale End once, and that was to officially open the David Rocastle dome
He was great at promoting players from the 18’s and 23’s, but had pretty much zero input before that
Liam Brady would have been academy director when most of the current crop were signed


Thanks, that clears it up.

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I've just realised that it is 51 years to the day that I attended my first Arsenal match. Couldn't believe it when my uncle said that Saturday morning "do you want to go to The Arsenal then?". I'd been to a couple of QPR matches as they were my local team growing up but Arsenal could have been on Mars for all I knew, going to Highbury seemed like an unattainable dream.

Remember the day so well. Seeing the green pitch, the North Bank, the Clock End. But most of all seeing those red shirts with white sleeves. I'd only ever seen Arsenal on black and white TV before then. The COLOUR.

And we won, 1-0, great goal by Charlie. They say you always remember your first love. I certainly do :1laughter:


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