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Post #428641  Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:06 pm 
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Because when he has played over the last 2 years his displays have been lethargic and disappointing. Like I said Europa league final .... did less than Willock did And he was only on the pitch 13 minutes. There was once a decent player in there who did it in spurts and could find passes few could but now there’s nothing.
He just wants us to pay up his contract early in full so he can go back to turkey. It’s obvious and we are right to dig our heels in.
That doesn't answer the point about him supposedly going through the motions when he isn't even playing. That is some trick! You state as an obvious fact that he wants to have his contract paid up in full in order to go to Turkey. How do you know that?

Presumably he's not putting it in on the training field either Hoy, and his displays have been ordinary at best for as long as I can remember when he has played. I think it was Bernard (apologies if I'm wrong there) who said something to the effect that playing Özil was pretty much playing with 10 men. In my opinion he's done nothing to deserve a place in the side. Having a massive wage is not enough to justify playing a passenger. I've long since had enough of him and the sooner he's out of the club the better.


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Because when he has played over the last 2 years his displays have been lethargic and disappointing. Like I said Europa league final .... did less than Willock did And he was only on the pitch 13 minutes. There was once a decent player in there who did it in spurts and could find passes few could but now there’s nothing.
He just wants us to pay up his contract early in full so he can go back to turkey. It’s obvious and we are right to dig our heels in.
That doesn't answer the point about him supposedly going through the motions when he isn't even playing. That is some trick! You state as an obvious fact that he wants to have his contract paid up in full in order to go to Turkey. How do you know that?

Because it’s just bloody obvious since he became Erdogans mate

He’s still getting minor game time and when he does he doesn’t impress let’s face it.


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That doesn't answer the point about him supposedly going through the motions when he isn't even playing. That is some trick! You state as an obvious fact that he wants to have his contract paid up in full in order to go to Turkey. How do you know that?

Because it’s just bloody obvious since he became Erdogans mate

He’s still getting minor game time and when he does he doesn’t impress let’s face it.

And this from Bayern president, Hoeness on Özil fom July 2018. This was said after Özil stepped away from the DFB and his photo with Erdogan and Özil's speech, wherein he stated he felt unwanted, among other things.

Uli Hoeness, who told SportBild “Özil has been playing *%^@ for years. He won his last tackle before the 2014 World Cup. All he is doing on the field is playing cross passes. Now he hides himself and his crap performance behind this photo.

“Whenever we played against Arsenal, we played over him, because we knew he was the weak point.”

No telling what's really going on at Arsenal as Özil possibly is feeling unwanted again.

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People don't rate Özil, everyone entitled to a view, but how can he be considered to be going through the motions when he isn't even playing? Two 70 minute appearances in 11 first team games - he has hardly had a chance to play beneath himself this season. Bottom line is that the manager doesn't fancy him. That Özil hasn't been all over the media complaing about it shouldn't be used against him as not giving a monkeys.


Özil is a fantastic player. I think he got better with us. He did the things he was known to be good for and added toughness and a few goals. People were asking of him to be something he is not: a leader. He was never a leader in the traditional sense. I also think neither Wenger or Emery could pigeon hole him into a XI that works. Not Özil's fault. He is what he is. At his best, he was very good.

The time has come for him to go. I'm not blaming him. I'm not blaming the manager either. It's like I told an ex "It's not you. It's not me either. It's nobody's fault. Bad timing." :1laughter:

[..and we were better off bringing Fabregas back..haha..I've beaten that horse beyond recognition :1laughter: ]

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[..and we were better off bringing Fabregas back..haha..I've beaten that horse beyond recognition :1laughter: ]

You certainly have. Miles beyond recognition. One of your obsessions, maybe? Wenger presumably didn’t want him back and wouldn’t take him back, perhaps because of his actions in getting the club to sell him to Barcelona?


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So, Özil doesn't work hard enough in training.
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I'm sure most of you have seen the Wright - Bergkamp interview. You can see the genuine love between the two. it's always great seeing the old boys get together and reminisce.


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Post #428648  Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:08 am 
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So, Özil doesn't work hard enough in training.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/10/10/raul-san ... wsnow-feed


I’m not sure this is news

Didn’t Aaron Ramsey say in an interview that Özil was the worst trainer he’d seen in his time at the club.


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Apparently to bring safe standing to Arsenal stadium would actually result in a reduction of capacity.


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Forget about bloody Brexit, this Wagatha Christie story is proper news. Comedy gold.

Fiendish criminal mastermind Rebekah Moriarty Vardy's dastardly plot to take over the world was thwarted by the sheer genius of newly appointed head of MI5 Colleen Sherlock Rooney.

OMG.

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Apparently to bring safe standing to Arsenal stadium would actually result in a reduction of capacity.

If so, that’s guaranteed it won’t happen.


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Slovenia U21s v England U21s Eddie playing alongide the likes of Foden and Hudson-Odoi. Real livewire up front and made and sored a penalty to give 1-0 lead.

If anybody speaks Slovenian I can give them a link lol.


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[..and we were better off bringing Fabregas back..haha..I've beaten that horse beyond recognition :1laughter: ]

You certainly have. Miles beyond recognition. One of your obsessions, maybe? Wenger presumably didn’t want him back and wouldn’t take him back, perhaps because of his actions in getting the club to sell him to Barcelona?
Its against my principles, but I'm seriously considering filtering him out. Hes like a dripping sewage pipe.

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Thinking ahead. Sheffield away is going to be very tough if their results are anything to go by.

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https://www.footballfancast.com/premier ... -upamecano

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Jeez the english fans love affair with the national team has quickly changed with a couple of not great results. Last week they were nailed on to win the next WC and now they are being slated.

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https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footb ... g-20565720

The numbers speaks for itself :42laughter:

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Jeez the english fans love affair with the national team has quickly changed with a couple of not great results. Last week they were nailed on to win the next WC and now they are being slated.
Yes, we need to learn from Aussie how to take defeat in our stride...

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Jeez the english fans love affair with the national team has quickly changed with a couple of not great results. Last week they were nailed on to win the next WC and now they are being slated.
Yes, we need to learn from Aussie how to take defeat in our stride...

Exactly. Okay I didn't say that we were a model to follow. I don't take defeat well at all. But the football comms were scathing and calling for all type of changes.

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I have been thinking about the apparent disparity of how Emery approaches cup games and the EPL performances.

I suspect that Emery’s continued employment at Arsenal depends on us getting a CL spot next year. Maybe he has even been told that they want to concentrate on a top 4 finish and not get entry by the Europa which can be a bit more hit and miss.

He is super cautious in the EPL but seems to allow the team to play open football in the cups. I know that we haven’t played very good teams in the cups but Frankfurt were okay. I think that he will continue to be cautious in the EPL and so I suspect we will struggle to actually start putting it all together as a team as he will not allow the players to have their head.

The hope I have is that the players will just start expanding their games even if against his instructions.

Emery has his weaknesses but if he was to go I want him replaced with a manager who will continue the youth project. Too many managers just want to put their faith in experienced players and I suspect if the board had not got rid of Mkhitaryan and a few others he would have always gone back to them in games.

I am torn as while I don’t like some things that Emery does, I want to know if Smith-Rowe, Eddie, Wilcock, Saka, Marinelli and others are good enough and if they make it. Would I give up another year of CL to find out – probably. If the EPL team actually started playing really well and we were promoting young players I would not care if we missed just one more year of CL.

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Wasn't he our player of the season in his fourth season with us?

Özil got Arsenal’s player of the year award for 2015/16, his third season with the club.


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Kiwi, If you check in now and then - bloody good Bathurst with a good result. If a Kiwi has to win it I prefer Scotty to Van Gis. It was nerve wracking in the last 20 laps.

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Wasn't he our player of the season in his fourth season with us?

Özil got Arsenal’s player of the year award for 2015/16, his third season with the club.

So that makes this season his seventh with us. Bloody hell. I didn't think it was so long.
Let's hope we can ship him out, on loan at least, in January.


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Özil got Arsenal’s player of the year award for 2015/16, his third season with the club.

So that makes this season his seventh with us. Bloody hell. I didn't think it was so long.
Let's hope we can ship him out, on loan at least, in January.

Like a marriage - seven year itch setting in.

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So now he saves a penalty !



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So now he saves a penalty !


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So now he saves a penalty !


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Čech did save one for us against Watford. I rate Leno very highly and he’s a great shot stopper. But I don’t remember him ever saving a penalty for us. Or have I forgotten one that Leno saved?


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Čech did save one for us against Watford. I rate Leno very highly and he’s a great shot stopper. But I don’t remember him ever saving a penalty for us. Or have I forgotten one that Leno saved?

Your memory is good.

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Apparently we've had 4 players booked for time-wasting this season. I do find it utterly infuriating that teams seem to be allowed to waste time from almost the first minute against us - mostly at the Emirates - but when we finally make the break through we're seemingly booked for the first hint of any time-wasting.


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Well done England. The result matters less than the way you carried yourselves. And Raheem Sterling, you are becoming a very special player.

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Ever Benega will only have 6 months left on his contract in January. Emery is surely going to want to make a push for him


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Horrendous scenes in Bulgaria

Fifa and UEFA culpable for indulging in racist behaviour for decades. Requires zero tolerance approach now.

Also England fans need to look at themselves too, no more Xenophobic chants about bombers and wars.


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Horrendous scenes in Bulgaria

Fifa and UEFA culpable for indulging in racist behaviour for decades. Requires zero tolerance approach now.

Also England fans need to look at themselves too, no more Xenophobic chants about bombers and wars.

They have been trying hard to combat racism. Very difficult to do.

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Horrendous scenes in Bulgaria

Fifa and UEFA culpable for indulging in racist behaviour for decades. Requires zero tolerance approach now.

Also England fans need to look at themselves too, no more Xenophobic chants about bombers and wars.

They have been trying hard to combat racism.


They have been indulging it, FIFA fined England £16,000 after a young England player used an energy drink which was not that of the official sponsor at last year's Under-20 World Cup.

The sanction was £6,000 less than Russia's fine for the racist abuse of France's black players during a friendly in March.

They have been poor


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They have been poor
Yes, they have. Until now the football gravy train has been too important to let racism take it off the tracks. Hopefully a change is coming in that respect.

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I'm sure most of you have seen the Wright - Bergkamp interview. You can see the genuine love between the two. it's always great seeing the old boys get together and reminisce.
Good fun. Both with bellys now!

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The plot thickens. I didn't see this coming but it makes sense now that I think about it. Poch to Man Utd probably. Far be it for me to advise our enemies but I wouldn't sack Poch unless its with a manager that has experience working with and winning with a limited budget. Mourinho hasn't worked within the confines of a limited budget since Porto....possibly Inter. Any successful big name manager of a major club are working at clubs with big budgets.

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“He is a hard worker, a great athlete. He is always smiling. He takes care of the young lads. He is a quiet leader but he really is a leader. He is funny. There is sunshine if he is around."

http://dailycannon.com/2019/10/sven-mis ... rked-with/

I think this statement with reference to Aubameyang as a leader, says a lot. There might be a subtle message about it too.

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The plot thickens. I didn't see this coming but it makes sense now that I think about it. Poch to Man Utd probably. Far be it for me to advise our enemies but I wouldn't sack Poch unless its with a manager that has experience working with and winning with a limited budget. Mourinho hasn't worked within the confines of a limited budget since Porto....possibly Inter. Any successful big name manager of a major club are working at clubs with big budgets.

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Thanks, AG, I very nearly missed this scoop and the plot certainly does thicken. Usually I don't pay much attention to seemingly baseless internet rumours, but if it's from Soccer Link via Sport Witness via cartilagefreecaptain.sbnation.com, surely it's as good as a done deal. Please keep posting this kind of stuff.

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“He is a hard worker, a great athlete. He is always smiling. He takes care of the young lads. He is a quiet leader but he really is a leader. He is funny. There is sunshine if he is around."

http://dailycannon.com/2019/10/sven-mis ... rked-with/

I think this statement with reference to Aubameyang as a leader, says a lot. There might be a subtle message about it too.


So, I wonder why he didn't get the votes for captain?

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