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long time gooner · **#345601**

DHD wrote:

I visited Naples in about 2007. Tricky place. In the (tricky) backstreets, there were religious shrines to St Diego. Actually, he had transcended saintly status - he was GOD in those parts. Look what he did for that team, that city and indeed for the whole region. No priest, cardinal, pope or politician ever came close to that sort of influence, and certainly not a footballer.

Maybe George Weah might have a shout but he's now a proper politician as opposed to a disruptive scally. I can't think of anyone else.

That’s a heck of a coincidence. We’re fairly regular visitors to Sorrento so I just looked back to see when it was that we had been in the back streets of Naples and seen those shrines. And it turns out that it was also in 2007.

gooner7 · **#345602**

RIP Diego Maradona

Gaz from Oz · **#345603**

Decaf wrote:

DHD wrote:

https://uk.video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-iba-1&hsimp=yhs-1&hspart=iba&p=england+argentina+wembley+1980#id=11&vid=02ac134973b3a924f7439a637afe9073&action=view

England v Argentina Wembley 1980

This was one of only 2 England games I’ve ever attended. Maradona was truly amazing that night. Electric and just 19 years old!! Even from a mile away at poxy old Wembley, I could see him doing things that were barely believable. Probably the most incredible individual performance I’ve ever seen on a football pitch.

Not sure how but England won 3-1. Diego took us on single-handed. Utter shitbag but I couldn’t help but love him. Such attitude! This was the only time I saw him play live. With the exception of Pele, I saw all the other ‘greats’ live quite often but from this performance and many others viewed on TV, I have no hesitation in saying Diego was the best I’ve ever seen.

Sad

EDIT

I visited Naples in about 2007. Tricky place. In the (tricky) backstreets, there were religious shrines to St Diego. Actually, he had transcended saintly status - he was GOD in those parts. Look what he did for that team, that city and indeed for the whole region. No priest, cardinal, pope or politician ever came close to that sort of influence, and certainly not a footballer.

Maybe George Weah might have a shout but he's now a proper politician as opposed to a disruptive scally. I can't think of anyone else.

Amen to that. The only Sporting figure who comes close, not just for sheer ability but for being so iconic and vivid, is Ali. Diego was a god.

Senna and Diego for me stand above all other sportspersons.

AmericanGooner · **#345604**

DHD wrote:

Diego is dead.

Possibly Pele the more iconic player for the sport but that depends on the generation. Those that saw Pele and those that remember him are a dying breed...literally.

So, by default, its Maradonna. Well deserved though. Messi and/or Ronaldo may eventually become as iconic. Only time will tell. The latter two will have the advantage of a truly global media.

For all sports, only Ali and Jordan are perhaps as or more iconic globally perhaps. Kobe may have a shout in time. And by globally iconic, if you went into a small village pretty much anywhere in the world, they would know the name.

Bernard · **#345605**

AmericanGooner wrote:

DHD wrote:

Diego is dead.

Possibly Pele the more iconic player for the sport but that depends on the generation. Those that saw Pele and those that remember him are a dying breed...literally.

So, by default, its Maradonna. Well deserved though. Messi and/or Ronaldo may eventually become as iconic. Only time will tell. The latter two will have the advantage of a truly global media.

For all sports, only Ali and Jordan are perhaps as or more iconic globally perhaps. Kobe may have a shout in time. And by globally iconic, if you went into a small village pretty much anywhere in the world, they would know the name.

I live in south Hertfordshire, a few miles north of the boundary with the London Borough of Barnet so not exactly a small village anywhere in the world.

My own lack of knowledge will be down to my lack of interest but I’d never heard of Kobe before I read the last post. Who the hell is he? I have at least heard of a sportsman called Jordan though I’m less sure of his first name. I think it’s Michael but I’m not at all sure. What I don’t know is his sport. Obviously one of the big US sports so either American Football, Basketball, Baseball or Ice Hockey. If I was answering a quiz question on naming Jordan’s sport it would be a one in four guess.

But I do know Ali was a boxer. I even know his first name was Mohammed and that before adopting that name he started off as Cassius Clay.

Rich · **#345606**

In approximately 5 weeks Özil will be free to talk to other clubs and sign a pre contract agreement to sign for them at the end of his deal in 6 months, he doesn’t need Arsenal’s permission to talk to these clubs.... :angel4:

Özil is in a position that not many out of contract players going in to their last 6 months find themselves in. Of course plenty of players have been frozen out, but it is actually impossible for Özil to play for us because he’s not in the league or europa squad list. So if all he wants to do is play football, and he’ll have to make a decision on what he wants to do in 6 months time anyway, why doesn’t he take that decision in January? Same goes for Sokratis, I’m sure Arsenal would release
Both on a free and happily save what would be about 12m in wages in the next 6 months
The other option of course is staying with Arsenal for another 6 months with an impossibility of ever playing a game apart from U23 games.

Bernard · **#345607**

Rich wrote:

The other option of course is staying with Arsenal for another 6 months with an impossibility of ever playing a game apart from U23 games.

Rich, I remain to be convinced that Özil is that bothered about playing. I suspect he’s happy enough meeting the terms of his contract by turning up for training and being available to play (or walk onto the pitch) if selected to get his £350k a week until 30/6/21.

Did you watch the Bayern match? I didn’t. But if you did how did that Salzburg player you rate perform?

DHD · **#345608**

Apologies for buggering up the formatting with that long link.

Decaf · **#345609**

Gaz from Oz wrote:

Decaf wrote:

Amen to that. The only Sporting figure who comes close, not just for sheer ability but for being so iconic and vivid, is Ali. Diego was a god.

Senna and Diego for me stand above all other sportspersons.

Golly, I'd forgotten Senna. He certainly belongs in that company. But in the pantheon, Maradona is the king. The likes of Ronaldo and Messi might rival him as footballers, but in terms of passion, beauty, and drama, they don't come close.

Decaf · **#345610**

Bernard wrote:

AmericanGooner wrote:

Possibly Pele the more iconic player for the sport but that depends on the generation. Those that saw Pele and those that remember him are a dying breed...literally.

So, by default, its Maradonna. Well deserved though. Messi and/or Ronaldo may eventually become as iconic. Only time will tell. The latter two will have the advantage of a truly global media.

For all sports, only Ali and Jordan are perhaps as or more iconic globally perhaps. Kobe may have a shout in time. And by globally iconic, if you went into a small village pretty much anywhere in the world, they would know the name.

I live in south Hertfordshire, a few miles north of the boundary with the London Borough of Barnet so not exactly a small village anywhere in the world.

My own lack of knowledge will be down to my lack of interest but I’d never heard of Kobe before I read the last post. Who the hell is he? I have at least heard of a sportsman called Jordan though I’m less sure of his first name. I think it’s Michael but I’m not at all sure. What I don’t know is his sport. Obviously one of the big US sports so either American Football, Basketball, Baseball or Ice Hockey. If I was answering a quiz question on naming Jordan’s sport it would be a one in four guess.

But I do know Ali was a boxer. I even know his first name was Mohammed and that before adopting that name he started off as Cassius Clay.

Don't they also go in, in quite a big way, for a form of motor-racing where they go round an oval and crash a great deal, as well as tennis and 'track and field'? Bit risky to rule those out?
I think we can safely rule out ping pong, cricket and curling.

Bernard · **#345611**

Decaf wrote:

Bernard wrote:

I live in south Hertfordshire, a few miles north of the boundary with the London Borough of Barnet so not exactly a small village anywhere in the world.

My own lack of knowledge will be down to my lack of interest but I’d never heard of Kobe before I read the last post. Who the hell is he? I have at least heard of a sportsman called Jordan though I’m less sure of his first name. I think it’s Michael but I’m not at all sure. What I don’t know is his sport. Obviously one of the big US sports so either American Football, Basketball, Baseball or Ice Hockey. If I was answering a quiz question on naming Jordan’s sport it would be a one in four guess.

But I do know Ali was a boxer. I even know his first name was Mohammed and that before adopting that name he started off as Cassius Clay.

Don't they also go in, in quite a big way, for a form of motor-racing where they go round an oval and crash a great deal, as well as tennis and 'track and field'? Bit risky to rule those out?
I think we can safely rule out ping pong, cricket and curling.

I quite liked tennis in the days of McEnroe and Connors plus females like Billie Jean King and Chris Evert, but I’ve heard of Federa and a few others from the modern game. Same with Formula 1 motor racing. If Jordan had been a tennis player or Grand Prix driver there’s a chance I would know it. So I guessed he was from one of the sports I mentioned. I couldn’t name a single player from any of them. As I said if I was asked in a quiz the sport Jordan was from, it would be one of those four.

long time gooner · **#345612**

Bernard wrote:

I’ve heard of Federa

Is that a hat? :laughing7:

Bernard · **#345613**

long time gooner wrote:

Bernard wrote:

I’ve heard of Federa

Is that a hat? :laughing7:

As well as Federa and Andy Murray who I didn’t mention, there’s also someone with a name that sounds like he’s from one of the countries that used to form Yugoslavia, Serbia and Croatia being two that springs to mind. Don’t know how it’s spelt but it sounds something like Jokovic although I’m sure it begins with a D.

As you’ve probably realised by now, since McEnroe stopped played I take little interest in tennis.

EDIT: See what you mean now. Seems his name is spelt Federer.

DHD · **#345614**

Bernard wrote:

long time gooner wrote:

Is that a hat? :laughing7:

As well as Federa and Andy Murray who I didn’t mention, there’s also someone with a name that sounds like he’s from one of the countries that used to form Yugoslavia, Serbia and Croatia being two that springs to mind. Don’t know how it’s spelt but it sounds something like Jokovic although I’m sure it begins with a D.

As you’ve probably realised by now, since McEnroe stopped played I take little interest in tennis.

Belated congratulations Bern to your Uncle on reaching his milestone.

Bernard · **#345615**

DHD wrote:

Belated congratulations Bern to your Uncle on reaching his milestone.

Thanks a lot.

Rich · **#345616**

Bernard wrote:

Rich wrote:

The other option of course is staying with Arsenal for another 6 months with an impossibility of ever playing a game apart from U23 games.

Rich, I remain to be convinced that Özil is that bothered about playing. I suspect he’s happy enough meeting the terms of his contract by turning up for training and being available to play (or walk onto the pitch) if selected to get his £350k a week until 30/6/21.

Did you watch the Bayern match? I didn’t. But if you did how did that Salzburg player you rate perform?

I'd sadly agree with you on Özil.
I didn't watch the Bayern match, I read the reports which said Bayern were a bit fortunate to win 3-1 and Neuer kept them in it at times as well as Salzburg missing chances.....Including Szobalszai who blazed over the bar when clean through on Neuer - not good timing when I've been giving him so much praise recently!

long time gooner · **#345617**

Bernard wrote:

EDIT: See what you mean now. Seems his name is spelt Federer.

PS The hat is spelled fedora - always reminds me of Malcolm Allison.

Rich · **#345618**

Beat Molde tonight and it is almost certain we top the group even if Vienna win their game.
We'd be 6 points clear with 2 games to play. Modle couldn't catch us due to the better head to head. Vienna could in theory catch us if we lost our 2 games and they won theirs and bettered our 2-1 victory at their place. Unlikely. Lets get the group done and dusted tonight and we can play the kids in the final games during which time the prem games come thick and fast.

long time gooner · **#345619**

I’m curious. If, as expected, 2,000 Tottenham fans are let in to the NLD what will Sky do with regard to fan noise? Will they still add fake noise for the ‘match experience’ or will that tiny number be sufficient?

I’m distinctly unimpressed with fake fan noise.

AmericanGooner · **#345620**

long time gooner wrote:

Is that a hat? :laughing7:

Are you sure you don't mean the Federales? :42laughter:

AmericanGooner · **#345621**

...you're a Federalist? :icon_mrgreen:

(okay, I'll stop)

long time gooner · **#345622**

AmericanGooner wrote:

long time gooner wrote:

Is that a hat? :laughing7:

Are you sure you don't mean the Federales? :42laughter:

Federales eh? Is that Roger and his family? :12hello-bye:

Zed · **#345623**

NLD Sunday Dec 6 at 4:30.

AmericanGooner · **#345624**

long time gooner wrote:

AmericanGooner wrote:

Are you sure you don't mean the Federales? :42laughter:

Federales eh? Is that Roger and his family? :12hello-bye:

When the country was new and expanding, he made the "U.S. open" to everyone. :icon_mrgreen:

Rich · **#345625**

Possibly a 4-4-2 tonight
Runarsson, Cédric, Luiz, Mustafi, AMN, Xhaka, Willock, Pépé, Nelson, Lacazette, Nketiah

Smith-Rowe, Balogun on the bench, joined by Cottrell and Azeez for the first time with the first team. Win tonight and all 4 of those could start the next 2 Europa league games

dec · **#345626**

Decaf wrote:

Gaz from Oz wrote:

Senna and Diego for me stand above all other sportspersons.

Golly, I'd forgotten Senna. He certainly belongs in that company.

Tiger Woods. He was an absolute phenomenon and it wouldn't surprise anyone if he won the Masters again. An ill-mannered individual but an absolute colossus of his sport. A global superstar.

long time gooner · **#345627**

Just seen the video of Willock’s M25 car crash the day before the Leeds game.

Lucky/silly boy. Let’s hope that he’s better at football than he is at driving.

DHD · **#345628**

We are almost looking very good here. Almost.

Molde missed a sitter though from a brilliantly worked move. They’re no mugs on their own ‘turf’.

Good game, this.

DHD · **#345629**

No red shirts again. Playing against a team in blue ffs.

long time gooner · **#345630**

Ah good. A replay of the appeal incident. Not even close to being a penalty, not even with the absent VAR.

long time gooner · **#345631**

Shoot!!!

DHD · **#345632**

Their gk just carried the ball beyond his area! Check it.

Edit:
Maybe not. Kicked it well beyond the line but hadn’t handled it.

Zed · **#345633**

long time gooner wrote:

I’m curious. If, as expected, 2,000 Tottenham fans are let in to the NLD what will Sky do with regard to fan noise? Will they still add fake noise for the ‘match experience’ or will that tiny number be sufficient?

I’m distinctly unimpressed with fake fan noise.

LTG,
For the Vienna match tickets are first come first serve. Up to 2K allowed at Ems.

long time gooner · **#345634**

Zed wrote:

long time gooner wrote:

I’m curious. If, as expected, 2,000 Tottenham fans are let in to the NLD what will Sky do with regard to fan noise? Will they still add fake noise for the ‘match experience’ or will that tiny number be sufficient?

I’m distinctly unimpressed with fake fan noise.

LTG,
For the Vienna match tickets are first come first serve. Up to 2K allowed at Ems.

It will be some time before I’m persuaded to use public transport into and within London. Not worth the risk and it would just stress me too much.

long time gooner · **#345635**

Aaarghhh! Pépé so close.

long time gooner · **#345636**

And Pépé, who has been getting closer and closer has calibrated it just fine. 1-0 will do nicely.

Hopefully good for his confidence.

Lincoln gooner · **#345637**

Pépé!! He deserved that.

long time gooner · **#345638**

Whoosh. Lovely goal. Pleased for Nelson. He’s been as good as Pépé. Great cross too.

Lincoln gooner · **#345639**

long time gooner wrote:

Whoosh. Lovely goal. Pleased for Nelson. He’s been as good as Pépé. Great cross too.

Agreed well done Nelson

long time gooner · **#345640**

I nearly said it earlier. Nketiah is not any sort of threat. Easy to see why Leeds used him sparingly.

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