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Post #507041  Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:09 pm 
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The Athletic are reporting Torreira is close to joining Atletico Madrid on loan with an option to buy. It's been widely reported previously that we've been against loaning him out and were looking for a permanent transfer. I wonder if it means we're confident of bringing someone else in?


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Post #507042  Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:19 pm 
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Saka is in the full England squad


That’s better news than many will realise as Nigeria were bound to be sniffing around and there could be a pile up for African cup of nations if your letting Saka, Aubameyang, Pépé and potentially Partey go all at once.


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Saka is in the full England squad


...and fully deserved. One of if not the brightest young talent England has going for itself. Years ago the England squad lived was over hyped I thought. However over time I think British players got a lot better technically and I would put it down to playing with and against a very high level of foreign players. It's also helped them not be over-awed playing an Argentina or France or Spain.

That said, the continental players have also raised it up a notch. England has improved technically but other countries are richer in talent.

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I’m really not understanding why we’re shipping out AMN.

I think Trump and Biden should debate this. :naka:


Maybe it's "fake news". :42laughter:

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Hazuki wrote:
The Athletic are reporting Torreira is close to joining Atletico Madrid on loan with an option to buy. It's been widely reported previously that we've been against loaning him out and were looking for a permanent transfer. I wonder if it means we're confident of bringing someone else in?


Hi Haz,

Seems an odd one, a loan without an obligation to buy does us few favours unless the loan fee is substantial, especially to Athletico.

On one side you have Athletico playing hardball on Partey's buy-out-clause and on the other side you have us rolling over and having our tummy tickled.


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So, AMN is called up as well? Congrats to him, also well deserved. Good to see The Arsenal represented.

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Post #507047  Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:45 pm 
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Well said Decaf. I think ‘very lazy’ is a good way of putting his automatic assumption that practically anyone will do better than those players. Especially, as you imply, Mustafi who is the obvious focus of his obsessiveness as it’s been going on for so long. I still remember him saying we could find someone from the Conference better than Mustafi. Whether he stays or goes this window, at least before leaving Mustafi has showed what a prat our friend from across the Atlantic really is.

Yep, I'm not a huge fan of Mustafi, but the abuse he cops from AG is truly pathetic. Here's a quick pub-quiz question. Who, out of Mustafi and AG, recently

(a) pledged to donate 16,000 meals to help vulnerable people in Islington
(b) posted the sentence: "Willock is a 'fox in the box' that is a unique skill we can use."

One of the above deserves a wee chuckle at their expense. The other maybe less so.

The Willock thing :laughing7: :laughing7:

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DHD wrote:
Saka is in the full England squad

Let’s hope that he doesn’t entertain any Icelandic ‘beauty queens’.

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Post #507049  Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:26 pm 
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Guendouzi to be loaned to Marseille possibly, those predicting he would end up at Barca, Madrid or Europe’s biggest clubs look to be disappointed as Athletico and others wouldn’t touch him with a ten foot barge pole

https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/01/arsenal- ... -13354615/


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So, if we loan Torreira and sign Aouar and that's it in terms of more signings is that enough?

In terms of a long term strategy it is but certainly not in the short term and not when you are trying to close a huge gap as quickly as you can.

From what I've seen of Aouar he's a small technical player with good dribbling and passing so he should be just what the doctor ordered. However, he's not big, powerful or especially quick so it still leaves some glaring gaps in the makeup of a topclass midfield.


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TOP GUN wrote:
Guendouzi to be loaned to Marseille possibly, those predicting he would end up at Barca, Madrid or Europe’s biggest clubs look to be disappointed as Athletico and others wouldn’t touch him with a ten foot barge pole

https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/01/arsenal- ... -13354615/

It’s clearly his atttide that’s holding his career up. If he can sort himself out in that respect, I’d like to think we might see him back at Arsenal.


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So, if we loan Torreira and sign Aouar and that's it in terms of more signings is that enough?

For me it's enough to make it a good transfer window - especially considering the circumstances - but not enough to make it a great one. It would still mean we've possibly (depending on how the signed players turn out obviously) strengthened our spine with a very promising central defender and a highly rated midfielder. We've also added experience and creativity in Willian.

Another central midfielder would've been jackpot. Still some areas to adress in the squad after that, but it can't all be done in one summer.


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Lineup for tonight:



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Bernard wrote:
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Guendouzi to be loaned to Marseille possibly, those predicting he would end up at Barca, Madrid or Europe’s biggest clubs look to be disappointed as Athletico and others wouldn’t touch him with a ten foot barge pole

https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/01/arsenal- ... -13354615/

It’s clearly his atttide that’s holding his career up. If he can sort himself out in that respect, I’d like to think we might see him back at Arsenal.


Talent too, if he was still doing the business on the pitch the club would have put up with any amount of nonsense. It didn’t put Madrid off signing Anelka that time too


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Nketiah must score there.


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Pépé in down the left, I feel he should just keep going and fire a shot in on the angle, he wouls have had a free shot at goal. Instead he looks for a cut back towards the penalty spot where more Liverpool bodies are


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Hazuki wrote:
Nketiah must score there.


Not sure, I think willock should have probably took a swing it it.


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Post #507058  Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:01 pm 
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Clear yellow for Liverpool.

Jota has a shove at Ceballos after the ball has gone. Carragher decides there's nothing wrong with it


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Post #507059  Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:12 pm 
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clear pull back on Saka not given. Those sorts of decisions just astound me that the ref hasn't seen it


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clear pull back on Saka not given. Those sorts of decisions just astound me that the ref hasn't seen it

Looked like a tactical foul to me, the kind where the player knows himself he's fouling but does it because it's better than letting the opponent go past him. Astounded the ref missed it.


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Talent too, if he was still doing the business on the pitch the club would have put up with any amount of nonsense. It didn’t put Madrid off signing Anelka that time too

Not in my view. For me he has plenty of talent and I think it has to be attitude, and attitude alone.


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Post #507062  Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:39 pm 
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Test. Having real trouble clocking in.


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Bernard wrote:
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Talent too, if he was still doing the business on the pitch the club would have put up with any amount of nonsense. It didn’t put Madrid off signing Anelka that time too

Not in my view. For me he has plenty of talent and I think it has to be attitude, and attitude alone.

Neymar is a known pain in the arse,

Therefore you wouldn’t have him either


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Not in my view. For me he has plenty of talent and I think it has to be attitude, and attitude alone.

Neymar is a known pain in the arse,

Therefore you wouldn’t have him either

If a player has a dodgy attitude, some managers understandably want to stay clear of them. I may think differently but it doesn’t matter what I think. I’d have kept George and Hudson. Sadly, in my view, Mee and Neill thought differently. I would also keep Guendouzi.


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Not idea what but I can only contribute via iPhone having googled ‘Gleiber’. None of my old links now seem to work.

Help please Rog


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The playing out from the back thingy

How many times has it been done without losing possession? Feels like less than half. Surely If your booting it long you must fancy your chances of winning possession 50% of the time from a knockdown.


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Post #507067  Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:56 pm 
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Good stop Leno, his 2nd of the game


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That's a brilliant save low down by Leno :53big-emoticons:


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Pépé looks like a dud. Sad.


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Pépé looks like a dud. Sad.

I think he’s played quite well actually.


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Stoke beat Villa 1-0 and if anyone's wondering Martinez was not in goal so still has a clean sheet for Villa.


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Time for Lacazette Mikel.


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Great save there Leno.


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And again.

Well done Bernd


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Bernard wrote:
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Pépé looks like a dud. Sad.

I think he’s played quite well actually.

£72m?


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DHD wrote:
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£72m?

The fee wasn’t his fault.


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Elneny coming on. I'll happily be corrected but it isn't a change which inspires hope of finding a way to win the game.
We all know there are players that we need to move on, I'd rather see some of our younger talent playing these games than Elneny, Kolasinac etc


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I can’t deny it seems a disastrous signing right now. My mate was saying he was Gervinho mk2 3 games in which I of course lambasted him for.

He’s got a great shot and decent left foot but his head is down and he doesn’t seem connected to play.


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Pépé winner coming up by the way :laughing7:


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oooh Holding should score that. Pépé puts a lovely cross in, free header 6 yards out, middle of the goal and goes straight at the GK


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