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Post #507721  Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:42 pm 
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Ledley King doesn't look happy...didn't like Henry's statement...haha

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Post #507722  Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:51 pm 
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Well they’ve chosen not to drop the price low enough to permanently sell him.

From our point of view, whilst he was very good for the last 10 games, he had one standout performance before that in the Burnley game. There still might be some legitimate question marks from our side if there's a significant outlay. For a low fee I think we'd take him in a heartbeat but clearly that's not on the table. Whilst I like him and am glad we've got him again, I think he's still got a point to prove to me that he's first first choice in what we're aspiring to be i.e really challenging for the title.

Personally I think you’re being over-harsh. Jesus wept, he probably had about as many good games as Martinez and look at the reaction by some to him leaving. I think you’ve got to remember that a slow start to the Premier League by overseas players, which Ceballos is, is hardly rare. My guess is many fans would see our best ever players as Henry and Bergkamp. Neither took off from the start. Some may say they began their Arsenal careers looking a bit underwhelming. I’m not saying Ceballos will ever be comparable to either of them, but I’m just trying to show why I think you’re being very harsh, and from that over-harsh, on him.


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Bernard wrote:
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From our point of view, whilst he was very good for the last 10 games, he had one standout performance before that in the Burnley game. There still might be some legitimate question marks from our side if there's a significant outlay. For a low fee I think we'd take him in a heartbeat but clearly that's not on the table. Whilst I like him and am glad we've got him again, I think he's still got a point to prove to me that he's first first choice in what we're aspiring to be i.e really challenging for the title.

Personally I think you’re being over-harsh. Jesus wept, he probably had about as many good games as Martinez and look at the reaction by some to him leaving. I think you’ve got to remember that a slow start to the Premier League by overseas players, which Ceballos is, is hardly rare. My guess is many fans would see our best ever players as Henry and Bergkamp. Neither took off from the start. Some may say they began their Arsenal careers looking a bit underwhelming. I’m not saying Ceballos will ever be comparable to either of them, but I’m just trying to show why I think you’re being very harsh, and from that over-harsh, on him.

Add in to that the correlation between Arteta becoming manager, asking for more from Ceballos in training and then Ceballos starting to deliver consistently on the pitch.


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Ash wrote:
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Well they’ve chosen not to drop the price low enough to permanently sell him.


From our point of view, whilst he was very good for the last 10 games, he had one standout performance before that in the Burnley game. There still might be some legitimate question marks from our side if there's a significant outlay. For a low fee I think we'd take him in a heartbeat but clearly that's not on the table. Whilst I like him and am glad we've got him again, I think he's still got a point to prove to me that he's first first choice in what we're aspiring to be i.e really challenging for the title.


Decent assessment Ash.

He’s a decent player and moves the ball well but apart from a few pirouettes he isn’t creating much and isn’t a goal threat. I can understand why the club are seeking to spend elsewhere and were unable to commit to the fee.

We need a big game from him tonight.


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Bernard wrote:
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From our point of view, whilst he was very good for the last 10 games, he had one standout performance before that in the Burnley game. There still might be some legitimate question marks from our side if there's a significant outlay. For a low fee I think we'd take him in a heartbeat but clearly that's not on the table. Whilst I like him and am glad we've got him again, I think he's still got a point to prove to me that he's first first choice in what we're aspiring to be i.e really challenging for the title.

Personally I think you’re being over-harsh. Jesus wept, he probably had about as many good games as Martinez and look at the reaction by some to him leaving. I think you’ve got to remember that a slow start to the Premier League by overseas players, which Ceballos is, is hardly rare. My guess is many fans would see our best ever players as Henry and Bergkamp. Neither took off from the start. Some may say they began their Arsenal careers looking a bit underwhelming. I’m not saying Ceballos will ever be comparable to either of them, but I’m just trying to show why I think you’re being very harsh, and from that over-harsh, on him.


Pires stank the place out before he got going.

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Post #507726  Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:02 pm 
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Hmmmn Ceballos dropped for El Nenny

Doesn’t seem to trust him in the big games.


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Personally I think you’re being over-harsh. Jesus wept, he probably had about as many good games as Martinez and look at the reaction by some to him leaving. I think you’ve got to remember that a slow start to the Premier League by overseas players, which Ceballos is, is hardly rare. My guess is many fans would see our best ever players as Henry and Bergkamp. Neither took off from the start. Some may say they began their Arsenal careers looking a bit underwhelming. I’m not saying Ceballos will ever be comparable to either of them, but I’m just trying to show why I think you’re being very harsh, and from that over-harsh, on him.


Pires stank the place out before he got going.


A complete over statement if ever there was one. He scored 8 goals and provided 9 assists in his first season and while he did look lightweight and unsure at times you could see his talent beneath the surface


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Gunfire wrote:
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Personally I think you’re being over-harsh. Jesus wept, he probably had about as many good games as Martinez and look at the reaction by some to him leaving. I think you’ve got to remember that a slow start to the Premier League by overseas players, which Ceballos is, is hardly rare. My guess is many fans would see our best ever players as Henry and Bergkamp. Neither took off from the start. Some may say they began their Arsenal careers looking a bit underwhelming. I’m not saying Ceballos will ever be comparable to either of them, but I’m just trying to show why I think you’re being very harsh, and from that over-harsh, on him.


Pires stank the place out before he got going.


Sure, and I can’t really remember but I’m sure I would have had similar questions until he, very emphatically, answered them all. That’s all I’m saying about Ceballos. I personally still have a bit to decide whether he’s a title winning quality player.

Bernard I have no idea why you think I’m being harsh let alone ‘very harsh’ or even ‘over harsh’, I said he played well after the break. I’m just still withholding judgment about whether he’s “Top top” quality from his performances over last season. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he answered that well, but like lots said about Martinez I’d want a larger sample size if games from him at that level.


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Martinez just made a howler but the goal was chalked off for an earlier foul on var review. The life of a gk. it’ll be forgotten. Make your mistakes and don’t concede or make them and your team still wins, makes a big difference in the luck and life of gk’s


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Post #507730  Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:25 pm 
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1Leno
16Holding
23David Luiz
3Tierney
2Bellerín
25Elneny
34Xhaka
15Maitland-Niles
12Willian
9Lacazette
14Aubameyang

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6dos Santos Magalhães
7Saka
8Ceballos
13Rúnarsson
19Pépé
30Nketiah
31Kolasinac

Great outfield team. Wingbacks and a solid defence. Was this the FA Cup team, I can't remember.


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Post #507731  Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:40 pm 
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Martinez just made a howler but the goal was chalked off for an earlier foul on var review. The life of a gk. it’ll be forgotten. Make your mistakes and don’t concede or make them and your team still wins, makes a big difference in the luck and life of gk’s


Tell me about it.

In Lenos case he doesn’t even have to make the mistake to get the blame as our fans chalk up imaginary missed crosses and invisible missed free kicks to deride him.


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Comparisons between Pires and Ceballos dont add up at all for me. Pires was 26/27 when he joined and was a World Cup and European Championships winner. There was no doubt whatsoever about his talent.

Ceballos is a young player who has done very little yet. I hope he develops into a fine player for us, but he is at a totally different level from what Pires was when we signed him.

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Wrong trophy closer to the Community Shield team against Liverpool.

Willian and Lacazette in place of Eddie and Saka.

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Post #507734  Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:55 pm 
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can’t help but think you have to find a way to accommodate Saka in the starting line up. His footballing brain in the final third is a massive boost


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Post #507735  Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:13 pm 
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Need to ride out the pressure here early on.


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Post #507736  Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:16 pm 
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Mané shot, luckily straight at Leno, a foot either side and Leno wouldn't have seen it. Under a lot of early pressure


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deflected shot hits the bar for them. lucky for us but would have been a very lucky goal


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Post #507738  Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:25 pm 
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Total onslaught.

Can’t get a little toe in the game let alone a foot

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Post #507739  Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:25 pm 
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How the *%^@ are we 1-0 up.


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Post #507740  Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:26 pm 
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Lacazette!!!!


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First chance we get to break, we had the balls to play it out from the back moments after messing it up. AMN gets away down the left, lacazette makes the run and it doesn't come to him, Robertson completely messes up the clearance and puts it on a plate for Lacazette who scuffs a bouncing shot over Allison!

I can't believe we're 1-0 up


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Damn. Needed to hold on to the lead a little longer to frustrate Liverpool.


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It has been a problem before, just not holding on to a lead long enough. Similar sort of move Liverpool have made in the game. Salah just has the run on Tierney who can't touch him (as we know what Salah does in the box) Salah's shot is parried by Leno but Mané has a tap in

By the way, Mané could have been sent off in the first few minutes. It was a clear lead with the elbow/forearm in to the face of Tierney. Of course, no chance a ref is going to send of a Liverpool player at Anfield in the 3rd minute but it was very dangerous


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Xhaka is struggling to keep up with the pace of the game


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Getting that annoying little feeling with the ref. Lots of 50/50 free kicks going their way. Bellerin was just pushed from behind and sandwiched by two Liverpool players and only got given the throw.


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Xhaka is struggling to keep up with the pace of the game

He just made a really poor decision to dribble out between 3 Liverpool players, tackled easily in a dangerous area


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2-1 liverpool no cover at the back post


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Xhaka is struggling to keep up with the pace of the game

He just made a really poor decision to dribble out between 3 Liverpool players, tackled easily in a dangerous area


To be fair El Nenny isn’t at the races either and our defenders are under such pressure. Need to get to half time now


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Has Willian touched the ball yet???

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Has Willian touched the ball yet???


Good tracking there tbf

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Doesn't feel like we've been anywhere near aggressive enough. We've not really made any fouls, giving Liverpool far too much space, its like we're almost too concerned with staying in our shape that we're just covering space and no one is putting any pressure on the ball


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what a chance. AMN is clean through, he just needs to control the long ball and he has men running square as well. miscontrolled though


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Post #507754  Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:44 pm 
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Need to change the formation to get an extra midfield player involved

They have the run of the midfield


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Frustrating AMN couldn’t control the ball with that through ball to him. If he had and wasn’t offside he’d have had a one on one with the keeper.


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its the first time we've actually gone long and over the high line Liverpool hold. Need to see much more of it

This has been as good as I've seen from Liverpool for a while though. They've been very very good this half


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TOP GUN wrote:
Need to change the formation to get an extra midfield player involved

They have the run of the midfield

I'm not so sure we need to change the formation, we need to protect the wings as much as possible. Just think we need to bypass our midfield when we're in possession


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Post #507758  Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:48 pm 
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Gabriel on for AMN, Tierney LB. Saka for Holding For me

Luiz bypassing our midfield and playing long because he knows it’s *%^@ yet some people think it’s brilliant


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Completely and utterly dominated, but we're actually still in the game being 2-1 down. You can see why Aouar and Partey are our priorities in the market, players who can carry the ball and beat the press.


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We’re not looking quite as confident as we have done recently. Elneny not having enough of an impact centrally, and Willian and Aubameyang not getting enough of the ball.
AMN has been our best player.
Second goal was poor defensively from Bellerin; he should have let Holding go for the header and laid off to wait for the ball to drop.
The first goal; should Leno have done better?

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