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Post #381601  Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:50 am 
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Wow. Zlatan positive for Covid19!
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Seen a story we may take Jorginho from Chelsea rather than The other targets. I assume it is just click bait.

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Post #381604  Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:09 am 
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The most aggressive ads against Trump are from other Republicans of his party. There are a long list of former administration officials, Republicans, often serving former presidents, who have said the main job of officials is saving Trump from himself and saving the country from some calamitous event Trump wants done.

Numerous stories of Trump openly asking staffers to do something he knows is illegal, unconstitutional, may start a war, may end alliances with long time friends: France, the UK, Canada, etc, and they do not do it hoping he has forgotten and moved on to the next thing. He asks his staff to do these illegal acts and come up with some legal way to nuance it as "possible" legal.

But he is not the sole existential threat to the republic. Its the 40 percent or so that simply don't care or mind. Obama, both Bushes, Reagan, Carter, even Nixon have done things that could remove them from office. The constitution has a remedy for it and we have seen it in action and the very republic was not threatened. We would move on.

I could even envision a time that Biden would need saving from himself if his cognitive issues worsen. Reagan was certainly incoherent for chunks of his presidency. Eisenhower was largely incapable of governing after having a stroke. They all had staff that will protect them and carry on and none of them would ask their staff to routinely, often daily carry out highly unethical if not completely illegal acts.

The fact that there are a long, long list of Republicans who have openly endorsed Biden. A man they share almost no ideological similarities with. They are endorsing a man they know will enact policies they disagree with vehemently to their core. They do so for one simple reason. Trump is an existential threat to the survival of the country. And to world. Completely unprecedented. And completely understandable and brave.

A Biden victory will not end the threat. 40% of the people have zero issues with such acts and no nation can survive with that. it will come to a full blown confrontation in some form or manner. In 1860, 25 percent of the nation were openly fine with enslaving their fellow man. What is not discussed was that for 20 years previously all manner of compromises and threats were made. All manner of appeasements. It did not work. Because no nation can move forward with 25% of a nation believing enslaving your fellow man was acceptable in an enlightened nation.

The same rings true today. The country will come to a point, a crossroads, again that can not be delayed any longer. How it will end is up for speculation. A pandemic hasn't brought the country together as it did with the Spanish Flu. The country is rotten from within, no longer able to conceal it to the world

Sidenote: more journalists have been arrested, this year, largely for covering the protests, than even in some authoritarian countries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuqhhrmhfCI&fbclid=IwAR2lyLDTxi9ZJuNWegLit1UeHMnxN0aR7C7RYau3GteN8ECgCfIMwBGP9l0&app=desktop

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I agree with one of the pundits with its not if Arsenal lose, its HOW we lose. Still holding out for a draw though.


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Post #381606  Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:45 pm 
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We play Liverpool Monday and Thursday next week.

It's going to be a hell of a month for us. Make or break for certain. The Boss will have to put in a real shift. Don't believe he or maybe anyone has had such a monumental month of games.

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I agree with one of the pundits with its not if Arsenal lose, its HOW we lose. Still holding out for a draw though.

Liverpool will be favourites of course, but at this stage of the season anything can happen. We've got a decentish chance.

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The most aggressive ads against Trump are from other Republicans of his party. There are a long list of former administration officials, Republicans, often serving former presidents, who have said the main job of officials is saving Trump from himself and saving the country from some calamitous event Trump wants done.

Numerous stories of Trump openly asking staffers to do something he knows is illegal, unconstitutional, may start a war, may end alliances with long time friends: France, the UK, Canada, etc, and they do not do it hoping he has forgotten and moved on to the next thing. He asks his staff to do these illegal acts and come up with some legal way to nuance it as "possible" legal.

But he is not the sole existential threat to the republic. Its the 40 percent or so that simply don't care or mind. Obama, both Bushes, Reagan, Carter, even Nixon have done things that could remove them from office. The constitution has a remedy for it and we have seen it in action and the very republic was not threatened. We would move on.

I could even envision a time that Biden would need saving from himself if his cognitive issues worsen. Reagan was certainly incoherent for chunks of his presidency. Eisenhower was largely incapable of governing after having a stroke. They all had staff that will protect them and carry on and none of them would ask their staff to routinely, often daily carry out highly unethical if not completely illegal acts.

The fact that there are a long, long list of Republicans who have openly endorsed Biden. A man they share almost no ideological similarities with. They are endorsing a man they know will enact policies they disagree with vehemently to their core. They do so for one simple reason. Trump is an existential threat to the survival of the country. And to world. Completely unprecedented. And completely understandable and brave.

A Biden victory will not end the threat. 40% of the people have zero issues with such acts and no nation can survive with that. it will come to a full blown confrontation in some form or manner. In 1860, 25 percent of the nation were openly fine with enslaving their fellow man. What is not discussed was that for 20 years previously all manner of compromises and threats were made. All manner of appeasements. It did not work. Because no nation can move forward with 25% of a nation believing enslaving your fellow man was acceptable in an enlightened nation.

The same rings true today. The country will come to a point, a crossroads, again that can not be delayed any longer. How it will end is up for speculation. A pandemic hasn't brought the country together as it did with the Spanish Flu. The country is rotten from within, no longer able to conceal it to the world

Sidenote: more journalists have been arrested, this year, largely for covering the protests, than even in some authoritarian countries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuqhhrmhfCI&fbclid=IwAR2lyLDTxi9ZJuNWegLit1UeHMnxN0aR7C7RYau3GteN8ECgCfIMwBGP9l0&app=desktop

I watched Biden's town hall in North Carolina.

He doesn't have cognitive issues. Even if he isn't as sharp as we was when in this brilliant speech ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_v00iGJCLY

but that is setting the bar very high ... and the bar is *%^@*** low if you don't mind me saying so.

The idea that Biden is mentally shot or is hiding in his basement is the same class of BS as the idea that Elizabeth Warren claimed to have Native American ancestry in order to get credibility with the woke crowd, or that Nancy Pelosi is a drunk.

The fact that Trump is able to create these slurs is disgusting but what is mindboggling is that the American public, and not just his zombies, buys it.

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Post #381609  Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:22 pm 
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I was watching a video of teammates who didn't like each other and it mentioned Kolo and Gallas. I had no idea. Maybe it was known at the time but I don't recall hearing about it.

If I had to guess Arsenal specific players who didn't like each other get along, I'd guess:

Henry and Reyes
Adebayor and pretty much everyone especially Bendtner
Lehmann and Taylor possibly, and if so it would be totally Lehmann's fault...lol
I heard Diaby used to bully Nasri when they were younger in France but not sure how true that is.

Thankfully the SG forum is one big love fest. :42laughter:

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If it were possible, I'd take Dele Alli in a heartbeat.
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A few of the more reliable French outlets are reporting we've made a bid of €35m for Aouar and negotiations are taking place, with some even saying we've agreed personal terms with the player. If that last bit is true it probably means Lyon believe a deal can be made. Not done yet, but some very encouraging signs, he seems to be extremely highly rated.


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If it were possible, I'd take Dele Alli in a heartbeat.
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Aside from him being a complete snide, cheat, wrong un he’s also massively over rated, usually flatters to deceive and goes missing regularly. Therefore I’m not shocked at all to hear you want him with us.

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There is enough noise around the Aouar deal that makes me think it will happen. The Lyon president has effectively said he can go at a the right price. Feels like the price may be around £40m plus add ons


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Manchester United on their way to a very good win against a Brighton side that has been the much better tim - they've hit the woodwork five times and have two penalties turned down. Both decisions looked questionable. This United team continues to look quite mediocre.


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Watching Brighton Man U. Just a few minutes left, Man U 2-1 up but Brighton have hit the woodwork 5 times, had a pen overturned by VAR and missed several other chances. They will be gutted to lose this.

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Yes!!! Last minute of injury time Brighton equalize.


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Feel sorry for BHA. Manure jammy.

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F........ing ridiculous penalty given to Everton. Legit according to comms according to the new rules but what a joke of a penalty. The FA are determined to wreck the game of football.

I wonder what influence Mike Riley has had on the decision to change the law and the decision taken? He is the head ogf referees and must have been involved?


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Tough loss for Brighton. Hoping they'd get something out of the match. They deserved better.

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F........ing ridiculous penalty given to Everton. Legit according to comms according to the new rules but what a joke of a penalty. The FA are determined to wreck the game of football.

I wonder what influence Mike Riley has had on the decision to change the law and the decision taken? He is the head ogf referees and must have been involved?



What I don’t understand is why referees have a big say in the law change? Surely it’s up to the FA and the clubs, and if the clubs are involved we won’t have all this “We don’t the new rule” nonsense that regularly crops up at the beginning of the season and the if the clubs are part of the decision making process and have a vote, they can tell the freaking players!


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Baggies! :58big-emoticons:

The number of times you do this sort of thing and the opposition get back into it, has it really never crossed your mind to just avoid posting about such games until the end of the match when the result is guaranteed?


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I know Man U and Chelsea both came back to get points but I’m quite happy with their performances. Both look out of sorts and neither manager is adding anything beyond the individual talent in their teams.


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There is enough noise around the Aouar deal that makes me think it will happen. The Lyon president has effectively said he can go at a the right price. Feels like the price may be around £40m plus add ons


I realise I’ve never seen Aouar play, that I’ve noticed, or know much about him at all, but don’t worry for all of you in the same boat - I’ve done some YouTube scouting! For the layman in simple terms to me he seems like a more final third attacking Ceballos, with more pace and an eye for goal.

Plus the only news I can see is Lyon have soundly rejected our latest bid :icon_eek1:


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That chelsea performance wasn’t great but I was impressed with mount and Havertz who did a decent job of connecting the dots in midfield.

We are desperate for that kind of player can play passing give and go type combination football. We just don’t have it and Aour seems to be in that mould.


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There is enough noise around the Aouar deal that makes me think it will happen. The Lyon president has effectively said he can go at a the right price. Feels like the price may be around £40m plus add ons

I realise I’ve never seen Aouar play, that I’ve noticed, or know much about him at all, but don’t worry for all of you in the same boat - I’ve done some YouTube scouting! For the layman in simple terms to me he seems like a more final third attacking Ceballos, with more pace and an eye for goal.

Plus the only news I can see is Lyon have soundly rejected our latest bid :icon_eek1:

I’ve never seen Aouar either, or if I have I don’t remember. Therefore I’ve also no idea what he’s like. But one comment I did see today was that he isn’t a ‘final pass’ midfielder. I took that to mean he isn’t a creative provider of assists, but someone who keeps the ball moving from both deeper and more offensive positions without being a Brady or Hudson ‘final pass’ type.

Look, as I said I know next to nothing about him. But if what I read is true, those who think we need another creative player (and I’m not convinced we do) could end up being disappointed. What I saw gave me impression he’s less creative than Ceballos.


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I realise I’ve never seen Aouar play, that I’ve noticed, or know much about him at all, but don’t worry for all of you in the same boat - I’ve done some YouTube scouting! For the layman in simple terms to me he seems like a more final third attacking Ceballos, with more pace and an eye for goal.

Plus the only news I can see is Lyon have soundly rejected our latest bid :icon_eek1:

I’ve never seen Aouar either, or if I have I don’t remember. Therefore I’ve also no idea what he’s like. But one comment I did see today was that he isn’t a ‘final pass’ midfielder. I took that to mean he isn’t a creative provider of assists, but someone who keeps the ball moving from both deeper and more offensive positions without being a Brady or Hudson ‘final pass’ type.

Look, as I said I know next to nothing about him. But if what I read is true, those who think we need another creative player (and I’m not convinced we do) could end up being disappointed. What I saw gave me impression he’s less creative than Ceballos.


Watched Aouar a few times, the player he reminded me of the most was actually Samir Nasri I thought where he can play very speedily on the turn with a range of passing. I think he might of played on the Wing when I watched him but probably could play in different positions.

Just looked at his stats, he scored 9 goals and provided 10 assists in all competitions last season. That’s definitely more creative than our current central players.


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There is enough noise around the Aouar deal that makes me think it will happen. The Lyon president has effectively said he can go at a the right price. Feels like the price may be around £40m plus add ons


I realise I’ve never seen Aouar play, that I’ve noticed, or know much about him at all, but don’t worry for all of you in the same boat - I’ve done some YouTube scouting! For the layman in simple terms to me he seems like a more final third attacking Ceballos, with more pace and an eye for goal.

Plus the only news I can see is Lyon have soundly rejected our latest bid :icon_eek1:


Intrigued so I just watched this clip on you tube, in this game he’s clearly operating as the most focal attacking midfield player. Provided both assists. What’s the deal with ceballos then ? Arteta wants to spend 80 million on Partey and this guy but not 23 on Dani. Must still have the jury out on him.

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Baggies! :58big-emoticons:

The number of times you do this sort of thing and the opposition get back into it, has it really never crossed your mind to just avoid posting about such games until the end of the match when the result is guaranteed?

I noticed they were 3-0 down then was rather unpleasantly surprised to see it ended 3-3. I wondered if the Transatlantic jinx had struck again so I came on here and ... :8angers:

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Watched Aouar a few times, the player he reminded me of the most was actually Samir Nasri I thought where he can play very speedily on the turn with a range of passing. I think he might of played on the Wing when I watched him but probably could play in different positions.

God help us then. I never really rated Nasri. Three seasons, two of which were pretty damn ordinary, half of one was great, and the other half of his last one was rubbish. To me that works out as average.


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Watched Aouar a few times, the player he reminded me of the most was actually Samir Nasri I thought where he can play very speedily on the turn with a range of passing. I think he might of played on the Wing when I watched him but probably could play in different positions.

God help us then. I never really rated Nasri. Three seasons, two of which were pretty damn ordinary, half of one was great, and the other half of his last one was rubbish. To me that works out as average.

Nasri was a good player while he was focussed. I was talking style of play though rather than overall ability. I’d expect some ability if this guys worth 50 million quid


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Thought West Brom had it. Very disappointed in their letting them come back. That's the difference between some squads. Some aren't used to that. Oh well. Still, dropped points for Chelsea though. A loss would have been better obviously.

Arsenal, stop playing with my emotions like I'm some school girl. A '2fer'. Aouar is good, very good, but , there seems to be this over emphasis on just how good. Well, hopefully its more than worth it. Still shocking Mustafi is our biggest transfer for a defender. Anyone involved in that contract should be taken out back and face a real cannon. Anyway, hopefully off to Lazio, a fascist club. Gives me all the more reason to dislike them...lol. If he goes, I truly wish him luck. Have to pity him more than hate him.
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Like this will ever happen. lol. Zaha for Reiss Nelson swap.
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Nasri was a good player while he was focussed. I was talking style of play though rather than overall ability. I’d expect some ability if this guys worth 50 million quid

Nasri was very good for half a season. That was it. His very bad half a season says as much about him as that. He was ordinary in his other two years. Fair enough if you were talking more about style of play. But overall Nasri’s pros and cons added up to bang average in my view.


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Nasri was a good player while he was focussed. I was talking style of play though rather than overall ability. I’d expect some ability if this guys worth 50 million quid

Nasri was very good for half a season. That was it. His very bad half a season says as much about him as that. He was ordinary in his other two years. Fair enough if you were talking more about style of play. But overall Nasri’s pros and cons added up to bang average in my view.


Like I said I was talking about style of play. A player who likes to receive the ball to feet in congested areas because he is comfortable turning quickly and distributing because he is quick on his feet. Mobility and speed.

I didn’t like Nasri as a human being or think he was amazing overall but you might be doing him a slight disservice there whilst I’m not bothered. He was decent enough and he’s also the scorer of my favourite goal at the Emirates.


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