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Post #343721  Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:39 am 
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If Sanllehi has been sacked for basically giving his agent mates backhanders, as some would suggest, then why the relatively amicable parting statements from both sides.

All a bit mad.

Morning socrates.

I would have been astonished if Arsenal had said words to the effect ‘we sacked that thieving git Sanllehi because he is as bent as a two bob note.’ It simply doesn’t happen.


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Post #343722  Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:41 am 
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My first impression when the news broke was that the internal inquiry into the Pepé transfer had revealed something the powers that be didn't like, and hence he was sacked. As several posters has pointed out, the fact that the official statement from the club was complimentary towards Raul doesn't necessarily mean anything, as that is par for the course.

However, there was another statement released by Raul where he once again stressed the split was amicable and heaped praise on the club on those who run it. And watching the interview with Vinai on arsenal.com, he starts the thing off with praising Raul, saying he was lucky to have him as a colleague and friend, and that Raul's fantastic work (his words) is one of the reasons he's optimistic about Arsenal's future.

I don't know, but it all seems a little too much if they're only trying to keep up appearances. The official statement would've been enough for that, I think. Maybe too much is being read into all of this, and it really is mostly about streamlining our leadership structure? If this move means Arteta gets more of a say I'm all for it, because in Arteta I think we might have an exceptional manager talent.


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It all seemed a little to cosy, cosy. Unless of course Sanllehi got a golden handshake from Edu that Kroenke doesn't know about yet :laughing7:


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Any other owner of a club with the size and stature of The Arsenal would have been embarrassed by this season and spend the money to right the wrongs. Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool all had seasons somewhat on par as we did and they went into panic mode and did what ever needed to be done to get back to winning ways.

Kroenke helped the former owner of the Rams move the club from Los Angeles to St. Louis by taking a 30% stake in the mid 90s. The team won a Super Bowl in 1999 and appeared in another. When Kroenke took over they no longer won much, barely made playoffs. In the interim the other 2 professional teams in St. Louis won titles. The St. Louis Cardinals baseball team won at least a couple World Series in the 2000s. and the St. Louis Blues ice hockey team which has had a dismal record of being in any where close to winning the Stanley Cup, won it. A team that has not appeared in a finals since 1970 and and had never won it before, won it 2019 for the first time.

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Post #343724  Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:48 pm 
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Arsenal have had a bid accepted for Gabriel Magalhaes, supposedly 30m euros. Napoli in a similar position. Lille have said he's off, they've given his shirt No. to a young player. So it appears it is down to the player to decide if he wants Italy or England.


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Fantastic news. But did we get more money from Stan? Did we (or are we going to} sell players to finance these transfers?
We will have a very capable central defense. My only remaining wish is for a DM specialist. Partey if possible but it would be asking for too much. I didn't think we'd get much done this transfer season but its coming along much better than expected.

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With the new transfer, its shaping up. I'm trying to stop myself from being too excited...hmm...excited is the wrong word...cautiously optimistic is more accurate. My biggest concern was the central defense more than any other part of our squad and (knock on wood) we seem to have two very fine, young defenders to build on. The Luiz/Mustafi era may be ending..hopefully.

I am probably wrong but I have hope for Holding. He hasn't set the world on fire but I go back to the cup final where he 'bossed it' at the back as AOC said at the time. Hoping he can do well. But would understand if he was sold or loaned out.

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For God’s sake, did you even watch the 2017 final? Holding had a fine game but Mertesacker bossed it. Martin Keown calls it the Mertesacker final for a very good reason. Moreover I think Keown knows a bit more about central defending than AOC.


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For God’s sake, did you even watch the 2017 final? Holding had a fine game but Mertesacker bossed it. Martin Keown calls it the Mertesacker final for a very good reason. Moreover I think Keown knows a bit more about central defending than AOC.

Not just Keown, I think it’s widely known as the Mertesacker final. Per had pretty much retired, he’d perhaps player a handful of games all season and hadn’t played for a number of months. My view is that as good as the defence was that day it was guided my Mertesacker


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Post #343731  Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:59 pm 
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Aubameyang tweeted tonight “.....and then a sand timer emoji”

Fabrizio Romano, quite a reliable journalist also tweeted that Aubameyang WILL sign his new deal soon


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For God’s sake, did you even watch the 2017 final? Holding had a fine game but Mertesacker bossed it. Martin Keown calls it the Mertesacker final for a very good reason. Moreover I think Keown knows a bit more about central defending than AOC.

Not just Keown, I think it’s widely known as the Mertesacker final. Per had pretty much retired, he’d perhaps player a handful of games all season and hadn’t played for a number of months. My view is that as good as the defence was that day it was guided my Mertesacker

Couldn’t agree more.


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Ahead of the FA Cup final I actually looked at Mertesacker's stats from 2016/2017, and that season he only had a single appearance before the final - coming on as a sub in our final league game with about 30 minutes to go. So that cup winning performance came after he had only played 30-35 minutes of football that entire season.


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Aubameyang tweeted tonight “.....and then a sand timer emoji”

Fabrizio Romano, quite a reliable journalist also tweeted that Aubameyang WILL sign his new deal soon

This is great news. Romano is reliable, throws a lot of rumours out there, but he always seems to word his tweets carefully so it's clear whether a deal is done or a club is just trying to sign someone. If he says Aubameyang will sign, I believe he has solid info. Good start to the transfer window if we can get Aubameyang signed and secure Gabriel next week. Then it's just the matter of fixing our midfield...


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I’m hopelessly biased but I’m so pleased Sevilla knocked Manchester United out the Europa League tonight. My heartfelt congratulations to all the staff at Sevilla and just as importantly their fans.


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Can anyone please tell me the process for blocking someone on here? I’ve tried the ‘foe’ option, but that doesn’t appear to work.
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No prizes for that Bernard. Far too easy.

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Sevilla were outplayed and should have been down by at least 4 or 5 goals. But its better to be lucky than good.
Their keeper should be man of the match.

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Sevilla were outplayed and should have been down by at least 4 or 5 goals. But its better to be lucky than good.
Their keeper should be man of the match.

Sevilla’s GK was good, it’s a beautiful day for him and them.


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Post #343739  Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:25 am 
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Didn't realise Coquelin has been sold by Valencia. Wonder if Arteta fancy any of the Valencia players. We got Cazorla in a similar situation when Villareal was in financial trouble. Kondogbia or Soler perhaps?

We’ve been linked to both previously.
Barcelona have also put their entire squad up for sale apart from 5 players, the gk, a couple of very good young players, someone else I forget and Messi....but Messi is meant to have told them he wants to leave. Maybe at 33 he doesn’t want his final years in the game be as part of a major rebuild. I can see him at City. I would love to see Messi in the premier league


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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... ion-widget

"Arsenal are understood to have agreed terms with Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang over a new contract and are also closing in on the signing of defender Gabriel Magalhaes from Lille.

Sources on Sunday night suggested that the club is confident that they are now “extremely close” to securing their captain, who has less than a year left on his current deal, on a new, improved contract which is expected to increase his wages to around £250,000-a-week over a three-year period."

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There has been a trend recently of lots of big clubs needing to get rid of their high earners who are pushing 30 and who aren't quite delivering against the clubs outlay. It seems the last 6 months more than any time I've noticed. I'd be surprised if it isn't some belt tightening after covid stripped a lot of teams of huge match day revenue and some TV money. A lot of teams now pushing their 'star' players out of the door. I think it is going to be a really interesting transfer window


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The clubs with a lot of money can afford to get rid of the north side of 30 stars. They are doing what Ferguson has done and others have done, rebuild their side over and over again with younger, quality players. They have the money to take a chance on the next big thing or the hottest thing now. Neymar and Messi (for the time being) are probably the only players that are priced out of everyone's budget because FFP or whatever. Mbappe may be in that category as well

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There has been a trend recently of lots of big clubs needing to get rid of their high earners who are pushing 30 and who aren't quite delivering against the clubs outlay. It seems the last 6 months more than any time I've noticed. I'd be surprised if it isn't some belt tightening after covid stripped a lot of teams of huge match day revenue and some TV money. A lot of teams now pushing their 'star' players out of the door. I think it is going to be a really interesting transfer window


Afternoon Rich, It’s already been described as a buyers market to say the least, if the market is then flooded with players, possibly mostly near 30, could be very interesting as you say. Carnage might be more accurate. Chelsea already taking huge advantage already having been forced to save over the last window. If ever there was a time to twist for us it’s now, a new manager to back and young players coming through, you could set the club up very well for quite a while if you gambled and perhaps weren’t so tight - relatively - just asking for a couple hundred mil Kreonke!


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Reports are Messi wants out of Barca, now! C'mon Arsenal, stop mucking about and make an offer. What's his buyout clause again? We'll pass the hat.

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Reports are Messi wants out of Barca, now! C'mon Arsenal, stop mucking about and make an offer. What's his buyout clause again? We'll pass the hat.


Can you imagine it ! It would be great fun for a couple of seasons watching him strut his stuff for us.

Wonder if Barca would entertain a swap deal for Kolasinac


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Selling our gaff.

Estate agent had an offer below the asking price on Friday which we promptly rejected. Estate agent then comes back to us today with another offer but this time 18 grand lower than the one they had on Friday.

2 things really. 1) I’m really not sure if they get how this is supposed to work But the people involved must have been employed by Arsenal at some point to conduct transfer negotiations during the Wenger period.

2) for this level of excellence they get 1% of the sale price. Name me a bigger racket


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Selling our gaff.

Estate agent had an offer below the asking price on Friday which we promptly rejected. Estate agent then comes back to us today with another offer but this time 18 grand lower than the one they had on Friday.

2 things really. 1) I’m really not sure if they get how this is supposed to work But the people involved must have been employed by Arsenal at some point to conduct transfer negotiations during the Wenger period.

2) for this level of excellence they get 1% of the sale price. Name me a bigger racket

Is your estate agent named Raul Sanllehi?


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Selling our gaff.

Estate agent had an offer below the asking price on Friday which we promptly rejected. Estate agent then comes back to us today with another offer but this time 18 grand lower than the one they had on Friday.

2 things really. 1) I’m really not sure if they get how this is supposed to work But the people involved must have been employed by Arsenal at some point to conduct transfer negotiations during the Wenger period.

2) for this level of excellence they get 1% of the sale price. Name me a bigger racket

Is your estate agent named Raul Sanllehi?

:laughing7:

No if he was he would be getting the bidder to offer 20% more than the asking price and giving it all to his mate :laughing7:


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Can you imagine it ! It would be great fun for a couple of seasons watching him strut his stuff for us.

Wonder if Barca would entertain a swap deal for Kolasinac

My guess is he’ll go to City to play under Guardiola again.


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Is your estate agent named Raul Sanllehi?

:laughing7:

No if he was he would be getting the bidder to offer 20% more than the asking price and giving it all to his mate :laughing7:

Very true.


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Somehow this Sanllehi-Pepe debacle smells like money laundering.

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This is also going to be an interesting development. We’ve just signed a 19 year old midfielder released from Huddersfield, this from arseblog

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the deal is part of a new focus on domestic recruitment with English clubs set to lose the ability to sign European talents between 16-18 when the country leaves the EU on 31 December.


We’ve benefited from this as much as anyone, it’ll be interesting to see if any more uk based talent actually comes through premier league clubs as a result.


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Somehow this Sanllehi-Pepe debacle smells like money laundering.


I’m not a financial whiz but laundering may not be the right terminology.

Fraud maybe better,

The example Arseblog used the other day was based on the Leno transfer, .... Arsenal start negotiating to buy Leno whose price was 18 million..... Sanllehi introduces his mate the agent Arturo Canales into it as an intermediary who he knows well and represents many Barca players and Unai Emery .... voila final transfer price is inflated to 22 million with costs for the multiple agents. It sounds like scratching people backs with cash for mates. Other business would probably call it fraud but in football it’s probably just another day for some clubs


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This is also going to be an interesting development. We’ve just signed a 19 year old midfielder released from Huddersfield, this from arseblog

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the deal is part of a new focus on domestic recruitment with English clubs set to lose the ability to sign European talents between 16-18 when the country leaves the EU on 31 December.


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Offs is there anything this political disaster doesn’t wreck.


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Offs is there anything this political disaster doesn’t wreck.


I don’t mind it, there was a loophole for the uk somehow anyway that meant we offer pro contracts when eu teams couldn’t, and it never seems right offering kids big money to move far away from home.


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This is also going to be an interesting development. We’ve just signed a 19 year old midfielder released from Huddersfield, this from arseblog

Any idea what the kid’s name is Ash?


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Ash wrote:
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Offs is there anything this political disaster doesn’t wreck.


I don’t mind it, there was a loophole for the uk somehow anyway that meant we offer pro contracts when eu teams couldn’t, and it never seems right offering kids big money to move far away from home.


Would have meant we would never have seen Anelka, Fabregas or Bellerin grace our hallowed turf.


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This is also going to be an interesting development. We’ve just signed a 19 year old midfielder released from Huddersfield, this from arseblog

Any idea what the kid’s name is Ash?

He's called Tim Akinola Bernard.


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Any idea what the kid’s name is Ash?

He's called Tim Akinola Bernard.


Yep, he’s a CM, former winger, forceful in the challenge and a decent burst of pace. It’s a long shot signing but apparently Mertesacker and others were impressed with his “underlying metrics” whatever that means. I wouldn’t have thought he will have any sort of a path to the first team but it’s all in the attitude isn’t it.


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I don’t mind it, there was a loophole for the uk somehow anyway that meant we offer pro contracts when eu teams couldn’t, and it never seems right offering kids big money to move far away from home.


Would have meant we would never have seen Anelka, Fabregas or Bellerin grace our hallowed turf.


Well I think “grace our hallowed turf” is a bit Clive Tyldesley :laughing7: but yes I suppose, I take your point. The next British player that comes through we can say the opposite can’t we. We can still sign as many 18 year olds as we like.


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