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Post #379001  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:25 am 
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I know it didn't end all that well and there was an obvious frost between he and AW - and by implication, the Club - but my clear preference would be Paddy.


Has he done a Lampard or proved himself anywhere yet?

And if he doesn't and we have to sack him too?

No please not till he has proved himself.


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Post #379002  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:27 am 
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At last, the board have acted positively.

Emery just wasn't good enough


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Post #379003  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:28 am 
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Inevitable in the end. It just didn't work out, time to move on. Lots of interesting options for a replacement. I like most of the names that have been mentioned, apart from dinosaurs like Benitez and Ancelotti. Nuno, Arteta, Howe, Enrique, Pochettino, Allegri, all would be interesting choices for me.

The squad is good, we can still get top four with the right guy in charge and then build from there in the summer.


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Post #379004  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:28 am 
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Swedish paper saying Freddie is the interim boss

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Post #379005  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:30 am 
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Camden saying on twitter we want Pochettino. He doesn’t have an agent.

For me that ticks all the boxes. Young, has a history of working with young players and a budget. Can speak English and Spanish, seems a good person and has a point to prove.

Failing that for me it’s paddy with a staff consisting of a number of ex players who get the club inside out.

Time to rebuild


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Post #379006  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:32 am 
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Thing is though. It’s all very well having an interim boss but Freddie in charge from December till the end of the season. Seems a long time


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Post #379007  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:32 am 
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Camden saying on twitter we want Pochettino. He doesn’t have an agent.

For me that ticks all the boxes. Young, has a history of working with young players and a budget. Can speak English and Spanish, seems a good person and has a point to prove.

Failing that for me it’s paddy with a staff consisting of a number of ex players who get the club inside out.

Time to rebuild

Based on what? Vieira has not proved himself as a coach.

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Post #379008  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:32 am 
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Wonderful ..... :9adore-boo: wonder who finally developed a set of nuts .


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Post #379009  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:36 am 
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Lets see what happens this weekend - if we get a win

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Post #379010  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:36 am 
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If he gets us through the next really hard games with good results he can stay interim for as long as they like.

Anyway if we find a Poch/Rogers candidate he can be moved sideways at any time.


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Post #379011  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:39 am 
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and for ffs makeit an engish speaker.

I blame Brexit :42laughter:


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Camden saying on twitter we want Pochettino. He doesn’t have an agent.

For me that ticks all the boxes. Young, has a history of working with young players and a budget. Can speak English and Spanish, seems a good person and has a point to prove.

Failing that for me it’s paddy with a staff consisting of a number of ex players who get the club inside out.

Time to rebuild

Based on what? Vieira has not proved himself as a coach.


Based on the fact that I’m not sure how attractive a proposition we are and it might be worth a fling of the dice. He’s proved himself more than Arteta for example and has now been around the running of big clubs for a while.

I’m not sure if we can get an Allegri or Pochettino. Do we really want Benitez ? I doubt Rogers would come. Nuno is a no no for me.


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Post #379013  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:40 am 
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I've seen some people suggest he should do the right thing and simply resign, but in doing so, wouldn't walking away from his contract cost him a fair bit of loot ?
Surely his best plan of action is to keep showing up to work until he's asked not to. I'm guessing he won't even see the week out.
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Oh yes indeed. That’s the difference between a decent and a commercially based decision.

Taking away all that money for what he has done!!! But they’re all at it with their noses in the trough.

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Post #379014  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:41 am 
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Benitez would be an excellent stopgap imo.


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Post #379015  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:43 am 
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Probably the first former underwear model ever to take the reins. Unless Herbert Chapman has a secret past yet to be revealed.

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Post #379016  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:43 am 
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Harsh of Emery who seemed a nice guy but I can’t recall a manager more out of his depth.

He will now likely manage a mid table Spanish side or go back to starring in the Hotel Transylvania movies


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Post #379017  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:46 am 
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Darren wrote:
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I almost think the kindest thing for Emery is to sack him. What’s been happening lately must be horrible for him, as well as it has been for us fans.

Absolutely right. He looked broken last night. It's only football when all is said and done.

I was there last night and I felt sorry for him. I know he didn't work out and he'll get paid off with sums of money that we can only dream of, but last night was grim. Empty stadium and empty team. Both players and fans had given up on him. He knew it, everyone knew it. They should have put him out of his misery weeks ago. He seems like a decent bloke. He just didn't fit at Arsenal. Onwards and hopefully upwards. Pochettino would be hilarious.


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Gunfire wrote:
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Camden saying on twitter we want Pochettino. He doesn’t have an agent.

For me that ticks all the boxes. Young, has a history of working with young players and a budget. Can speak English and Spanish, seems a good person and has a point to prove.

Failing that for me it’s paddy with a staff consisting of a number of ex players who get the club inside out.

Time to rebuild

Based on what? Vieira has not proved himself as a coach.


He started coaching in 2011 for Man City Academy and Reserves, then 2015 in sole charge at New York City and since 2018 at Nice. That's a decent apprenticeship.


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Post #379019  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:51 am 
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Arsene Wenger is available....

























*grabs coat and runs*

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Post #379020  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:00 am 
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Good luck Freddie. :58big-emoticons:

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Post #379021  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:02 am 
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Arsenal sack Unai Emery with Ljungberg taking over as caretaker :12hello-bye:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/li ... -countdown

"Karl Fredrik "Freddie" Ljungberg is a Swedish former footballer who played as a winger and is the current interim head coach at Arsenal."

Maybe if he's does a good job, they'd keep him ?

All the decent managers that have been suggested seem to already have jobs.


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Post #379022  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:04 am 
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*doing the Carlton dance*


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Post #379023  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:10 am 
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At least it will be fun watching Freddie in the dug out and giving him our full support

He was such a cracking player and when pires got injured in that title run in he was a colossus for us.

It could at least be fun again.


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Post #379024  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:13 am 
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TOP GUN wrote:
At least it will be fun watching Freddie in the dug out and giving him our full support

He was such a cracking player and when pires got injured in that title run in he was a colossus for us.

It could at least be fun again.

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Post #379025  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:16 am 
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Wasn't at all surprised to wake up to him gone after reading arsecom's post match interview with him. For the official site to ask three times if he was done was a pretty big clue.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/emery-defe ... njury-news


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Post #379026  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:18 am 
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Wasn't at all surprised to wake up to him gone after reading arsecom's post match interview with him. For the official site to ask three times if he was done was a pretty big clue.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/emery-defe ... njury-news


Who gets it in your mind ex ?

Lot of people saying Nuno the wolves guy.


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TOP GUN wrote:
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Wasn't at all surprised to wake up to him gone after reading arsecom's post match interview with him. For the official site to ask three times if he was done was a pretty big clue.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/emery-defe ... njury-news


Who gets it in your mind ex ?

Lot of people saying Nuno the wolves guy.


As I'm one of those who suggested the sacking with Freddie 'til the end of the season I'm happy right now but long term? Maybe Freddie could prove to be the man? To be honest I haven't a clue past the obvious names who keep coming up but I would like a manager who plays football.

On managers I must mention Gareth Ainsworth at Wycombe. Obviously not putting him forward for the Arsenal job but when younger English managers get mentioned he's never on the list. He's taken a bankrupt club who couldn't even fill the subs bench for a season to the top of League One. Really can't overstate the job he's done with no resources.


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Looking around at some reactions, it seems Allegri, Nuno, Arteta and Howe aren't good enough. Have not seen any Arsenal fans slag off Pochettino yet, so I guess he's our only option.


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So glad we have finally done the decent thing.
There is no way Emery could survive last night.
No way.
I really did feel sorry for him last night. He looked a broken man. Felt for him.
Im not keen on Nuno and his close dealings with super agent Mendes. I hope Wolves reject any possible overtures. Hasn't exactly been a success at previous clubs.
The right thing to give it to Freddie while we bide our time.
For me I would give it to Arteta or Benitez or Pochettino.
Ive gone off the idea of Allegri who seems he would be an Italian version of Emery.
I loved Paddy as a player but I don't think he is the right man for us. Nothing jumps out at me with him as a manager so far.
Simply a gut feeling but I would take Arteta over Paddy. Just think he would be a success.


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On the subject of managers, here is a lovely picture of an ex-manager in Soccer Star today in 1968.


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Is it true that we can afford to lose by 3 clear goals against liege in the last game and still qualify as we beat them 4 0 at the emirates??
Is the disadvantage of finishing 2nd that you can draw a champions league drop out team and play the first leg at home in the next round of 32??

Anyone know?


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Let’s hope Ljungberg is a better manager than he was a player.


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Is it true that we can afford to lose by 3 clear goals against liege in the last game and still qualify as we beat them 4 0 at the emirates??
Is the disadvantage of finishing 2nd that you can draw a champions league drop out team and play the first leg at home in the next round of 32??

Anyone know?

I’m not sure but I think you’re right.


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Post #379034  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:23 pm 
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So Poch it is then...


he has said he'd rather work on a farm than manage Arsenal or Barcelona.

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Post #379035  Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:25 pm 
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Hope we get knocked out of the Europa league anyway

Horrid competition used only by sub par managers trying to pretend to their fans they are competing when they are floundering domestically


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Gunfire wrote:
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So Poch it is then...


he has said he'd rather work on a farm than manage Arsenal or Barcelona.

When he was spurs manager though and before they fired him !

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Bernard wrote:
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Is it true that we can afford to lose by 3 clear goals against liege in the last game and still qualify as we beat them 4 0 at the emirates??
Is the disadvantage of finishing 2nd that you can draw a champions league drop out team and play the first leg at home in the next round of 32??

Anyone know?

I’m not sure but I think you’re right.

Having said that, obviously the Europa League is utterly meaningless unless you actually win it - nul points for anything else. I believe that the coach of last season's losing finalist has already lost his job.

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Bernard wrote:
Let’s hope Ljungberg is a better manager than he was a player.


He could be the greatest manager of all time
Then as Freddie was a Fabulous player


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Gunfire wrote:
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So Poch it is then...


he has said he'd rather work on a farm than manage Arsenal or Barcelona.


Well, the Arsenal team is a great big steaming pile of manure so there are similarities.


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It feels great to have an indisputable club legend in charge.


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