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Post #329401  Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:28 am 
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On a sidenote, its going to be interesting how movies and TV shows that take place in the present will deal with the virus. Are they going to write it into to script? Or ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist?

When will new programmes and films be made? Maybe we’ll get kiwipete watching The Ipcress File with all the other repeats?


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Post #329402  Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:11 am 
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Maybe we’ll get kiwipete watching The Ipcress File with all the other repeats?



:laughing7: :laughing7: Got to say Bernard ...I'm slavering at the prospect .

At this moment watching the G7 recommended "The English Game "..not bad ..... although I'm getting a bit sick of the Scots bloke playing the naive gormless pr*ck ... keeps getting kicked ,tripped , punched by the toffs and doesn't retaliate .


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Post #329403  Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:14 am 
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The invincible line up of Lehmann, Cole, lauren, Campbell, Toure, Vieira, Silva, Ljungberg, Pires, Bergkamp, Henry only started 2 league games as an 11. The 4-2 v Liverpool and the 2-1 v Leicester on the final day


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It appears the scientists are backpedalling their view that 200,000 will die fromm the pandemic. The expectation now is nearer 20000 which it appears near as damn it the same as a normal year for deaths amongst the aged.

Why can you not see that the panic being caused is unnecessary. Isolate the old and susceptible and let the others go about their normal days work with social distancing if one feels it necessary.

The Government are promising billions to people but they cannot guarantee it will get to them sooner rather than later. Do people not realise that these sums will have to be repaid one way or the other. Vat and rates etc will have to be paid in due course as well so why not pay it if you can.

I can survive on a basic pension roughly £700 a month so why not just give everyone say a £1000 and tell them to sort things out themselves. All monies to be repaid from future earnings.

In this way we will not have a recession and we will not have so many people losing their jobs.

Why can head in the sand trolls like TG not see it makes sense.

Ffs nobody said that 80 million Turks would invade they said they could. Do we really have to explain the difference?


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Post #329405  Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:46 am 
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Why can you not see that the panic being caused is unnecessary. Isolate the old and susceptible and let the others go about their normal days work with social distancing if one feels it necessary.

Because pretty much every single expert in virology, immunology, disease control and any other relevant field of science you can think of from pretty much every affected country is in agreement that at least some form of drastic measure is required to get as much control as possible over the situation. We should probably listen to them.


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Post #329406  Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:20 am 
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It appears the scientists are backpedalling their view that 200,000 will die fromm the pandemic.




So you literally didn’t read a word of DHDs post.

And you wonder why people think you’re a complete dinlow ?


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Post #329407  Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:02 am 
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It appears the scientists are backpedalling their view that 200,000 will die fromm the pandemic. The expectation now is nearer 20000 which it appears near as damn it the same as a normal year for deaths amongst the aged.

Why can you not see that the panic being caused is unnecessary. Isolate the old and susceptible and let the others go about their normal days work with social distancing if one feels it necessary.

The Government are promising billions to people but they cannot guarantee it will get to them sooner rather than later. Do people not realise that these sums will have to be repaid one way or the other. Vat and rates etc will have to be paid in due course as well so why not pay it if you can.

I can survive on a basic pension roughly £700 a month so why not just give everyone say a £1000 and tell them to sort things out themselves. All monies to be repaid from future earnings.

In this way we will not have a recession and we will not have so many people losing their jobs.

Why can head in the sand trolls like TG not see it makes sense.

Ffs nobody said that 80 million Turks would invade they said they could. Do we really have to explain the difference?

So the death toll is currently 24000 and if you are correct it is over. You are plainly wrong on almost every aspect of your post. Please don’t bother replying because there is nothing more to say.

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Post #329408  Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:31 am 
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There’s a point in life where you realise you are trying to have a debate with a complete tool. That’s long past the post.


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Post #329409  Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:44 am 
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Rich wrote:
The invincible line up of Lehmann, Cole, lauren, Campbell, Toure, Vieira, Silva, Ljungberg, Pires, Bergkamp, Henry only started 2 league games as an 11. The 4-2 v Liverpool and the 2-1 v Leicester on the final day

That surprised me when I read your post. The BBC sport website also pointed out that the 1966 England World Cup final team and the 1999 Manchester United treble winners didn’t play together as often as I’m sure many would assume. Having said that, they did both play together more than the Arsenal ‘invincibles’ team you list.


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Ffs nobody said that 80 million Turks would invade they said they could. Do we really have to explain the difference?


They couldn't.

It was yet another lie.


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Anyway.

In 2005/06 we had 8 different left backs.

If you want to play, can you name all 8?


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Cheers Ex. This is a really superb clip.

As an aside, Question Time is working so much better without an audience. It stops the grandstanding from panelists and also allows something more akin to proper debate. I hope they keep it this way.

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In 2005/06 we had 8 different left backs.

If you want to play, can you name all 8?

Cole, Clichy, Flamini, Garry. After that I’m struggling. Did Toure, Hoyte, Djourou and Eboue ever play at left back?


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Cheers Ex. This is a really superb clip.

As an aside, Question Time is working so much better without an audience. It stops the grandstanding from panelists and also allows something more akin to proper debate. I hope they keep it this way.

I didn’t know Question Time no longer had an audience. Shows how long it’s been since I watched it. Donkey’s years ago.


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Pretty sure Sebastian Larsson played a few games at left back that season.


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Pretty sure Sebastian Larsson played a few games at left back that season.

Well remembered.


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Boris Johnson tests positive for coronavirus

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Boris Johnson tests positive for coronavirus

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/bor ... 54er1.html


Probably another Cummings stunt.


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My mother says this disease was like the fear of polio in her mother's and grandparents day. It had no respect of class or money. Franklin D. Roosevelt being possibly the most famous victim of it. It was a huge fear in the old days. It could strike anyone from a ditch digger to a royal.

It's surreal though. Its amazing how willingly all of us as a collective are willing to give up long held and cherished civil liberties in order to fight this. My issue is that I don't trust those that are asking (or rather demanding it).

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Cole, Clichy, Flamini and Larsson.

Four more to go.

I think one of the four is obvious. One is probably who Bernard was thinking of when he said Ryan Garry. One is a full back. The other one is the one I had to look up, and I'm still surprised to see have seen him on the list.


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Cole, Clichy, Flamini and Larsson.

Four more to go.

I think one of the four is obvious. One is probably who Bernard was thinking of when he said Ryan Garry. One is a full back. The other one is the one I had to look up, and I'm still surprised to see have seen him on the list.


I’m not going to look it up as it would spoil the fun but wasn’t there a tiny Brazilian who played at left back around this time. Not sylvinho but a young player who played a handful of games


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Cole, Clichy, Flamini and Larsson.

Four more to go.

I think one of the four is obvious. One is probably who Bernard was thinking of when he said Ryan Garry. One is a full back. The other one is the one I had to look up, and I'm still surprised to see have seen him on the list.


I’m not going to look it up as it would spoil the fun but wasn’t there a tiny Brazilian who played at left back around this time. Not sylvinho but a young player who played a handful of games


Juan?

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There is a silent demographic war in America. I'd be curious to know if the same is happening in the UK, Australia or NZ.
There is a new term that has made the lexicon of American social and political spaces: "Ok, Boomer" Millennials who are told by those in America who are referred to as the baby boomer generation, primarily over 60. Its a response by the young under 30.

They have an animus against their grandparents era. Why? Because they feel that they older generation used the biggest credit card in history (debt) to finance their own selfishness and have left them to pay the tab. Young people have a huge amount of college debt upon graduation. The amount varies but it can be as low as 10k if they are very lucky to hundreds of thousands if they went to law school or medical school. I have a good friend who has a 200k college debt from her total education which includes a masters in clinical therapy from Pepperdine University in Malibu. She is a therapist (okay, enough with the jokes I need to see her..lol).

Anyway, the young people start out in life 20k in debt on average. They know that their parents and grandparents enjoyed a very low cost uni education. The cost of unis have skyrocketed saddling the young people with havig to pay 20k a year, 30k a year for a college education.

Also, they argue that for their entire lives as far as they can remember they have seen nothing but war. The war in Afghanistan and Iraq are almost 20 year old wars. They have traumatized by 911 as 4 or 5 year olds, a 2008 crash, a weak recovery that have left them without the great college grad jobs their fathers and grandparents enjoyed. IBM, Google, Exxon are not hiring thousands of college grads as they once did. Furthermore there is more competition for those jobs. In the 'Mad Men' era, you only competed against other white males. Not you compete against all women, all minorities. They aren't complaining about it because they grew up as social justice advocates, but its more people for less jobs.

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HoddGooner wrote:
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Juan?

Nope.

Traore?


Nope, although he deserves a mention for taking a knuckle-duster to a North London derby.


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The Republicans have been trying to end our pension system called Social Security that is about 90 years old, enacted during the 1930s FDR. Total uni debt is about 1.5 Trillion. They can't pay it off. A significant percentage of them have simply stopped paying. Many have had to move back to their parents home. There is a lot of animosity that their tax dollars are paying for a lifestyle for the boomer generation (social security, medicare, etc) they won't benefit from because they are told not to expect America to be able to afford it. America has a debt well over 23 trillion. They know their generation won't be able to pay that off and it will be untenable by the time they reach full maturity. Servicing the debt is half a trillion dollars now and is expected to be a trillion at the rate Trump is spending. Trillion just to service the debt in a less than 5 trillion dollar economy. 
So they are angry and they are blatantly happy that the virus is killing off the boomer generation. There are several videos of them rubbing salt in the wounds. I've seen videos on Facebook of a long line of kids licking a candy and passing it to the next one, male and female, as a stuff it to the older generation. Despite being told of social distancing, they went to 'spring break' turning up their noses to the consequences. 
Ironically, they support a boomer. Bernie Sanders biggest niche are people under 30. I worked with a then 23 year old 4 years ago who voted for the first time for Sanders and volunteered for his campaign and donated $50. We still keep in touch and I ask him about his generation's thoughts a lot as well as my younger cousins, nephews and such. They are not happy. 


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HoddGooner wrote:
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Nope, although he deserves a mention for taking a knuckle-duster to a North London derby.

Added Gilbert


Yup. That's the one I thought Bernard may have had in mind.


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Yup. That's the one I thought Bernard may have had in mind.

He was a right back.


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The boomers in power are very, very worried. And they should be. Many of them, an unknown percentage that I can determine but nonetheless a number that is big enough to scare the Peter Shilton out of society at large. They hate Trump so have no incentive to heed current warnings for the present powers in the government.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/health/k ... index.html
A group of young adults held a coronavirus party in Kentucky to defy orders to socially distance. Now one of them has coronavirus

https://time.com/5807073/millennials-coronavirus-who/


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Yup. That's the one I thought Bernard may have had in mind.

He was a right back.


I think you're right but he played left back for our first team that year.


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:12hello-bye: Hoddgooner.

How are things both family wise and Arsenal?

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He was a right back.


I think you're right but he played left back for our first team that year.

Unless I’ve missed it and someone’s already mentioned him, wasn’t there a Danny Karbassion (excuse the spelling as I doubt it’s right) who might have appeared at left back?


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Kids all grown up. You know it will happen but aren't really prepared for it.

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TAFKAEiN wrote:
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In 2005/06 we had 8 different left backs.

If you want to play, can you name all 8?

Cygan?


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Anyway.

In 2005/06 we had 8 different left backs.

If you want to play, can you name all 8?

Cygan?

That’s a good shout Bromley.


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Metal Djourou?

Eboue must have switched at some point??

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Scrap that, I see Bernard already covered them.

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Republicans in America have a hatred of Obama that is only exceeded by a hatred for the Clintons. Why? They are the smaller party and they will be damned if a Democrat (especially one of his lineage) will have any major wins in his legacy. The Republicans practice politics with an aggression and zealotry that would give Machiavelli and Sun Tzu pause.

During the worse health crisis in a century, they are attempting to dismantle one of the last remaining health benefits for the masses. Why? Because truth be told Obama's place in history, his legacy is almost assured because its sandwiched smack between arguably two of the 5 worst presidents in American history (Bush and Trump). Just being average you can look great between those two. Obamacare, our attempted version of NHS, imperfect (by design by the GOP), but much better for a country where over 60 percent of personal bankruptcies are due to medical expenses, is viewed by Republicans the same way vampires view garlic.

The fact that it leaves the most vulnerable in society at the mercy of fate in the most pressing health crisis in memory is seen as acceptable. It's being done in the most abhorrent manner. While the country is distracted by covid19. It wouldn't pass otherwise. Because even those poor Trump supporters in Kentucky without two nickels to rub together know enough to want it. Self survival can often overcome hatred.

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Gulp, Senderos??

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The various papers seem its a cert that Aubameyang will go. Hmmm

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