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Post #419881  Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:47 am 
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Tottenham are out. Drew 1-1 but Norwich beat them in the penalty shootout.

Eric Dier has just run up in to the stand and had an ‘altercation’ with a spurs fan. Video on twitter

What penalty did Cantona get?

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Post #419882  Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:15 am 
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Jose doing his classic routine at Spurs. He came in saying he was the humble one, did lots of good PR with ball boys and praising people but pretty quickly that has turned in to his old tricks.
He belittles players in public
Drops players and makes them resent him rather than want to play better for him
Moans about bad luck and how he’s basically working miracles with what he’s got
Has basically said spurs season is already over
Plays dour safety first football
Says he doesn’t have the squad to compete in all the games he has to play etc etc

Every spurs fan I know has already turned against him


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Rich wrote:
Jose doing his classic routine at Spurs. He came in saying he was the humble one, did lots of good PR with ball boys and praising people but pretty quickly that has turned in to his old tricks.
He belittles players in public
Drops players and makes them resent him rather than want to play better for him
Moans about bad luck and how he’s basically working miracles with what he’s got
Has basically said spurs season is already over
Plays dour safety first football
Says he doesn’t have the squad to compete in all the games he has to play etc etc

Every spurs fan I know has already turned against him

Football in North London isn’t looking too healthy at this point in time. How are Barnet doing these days?


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Post #419884  Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:02 am 
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Rich wrote:
Jose doing his classic routine at Spurs. He came in saying he was the humble one, did lots of good PR with ball boys and praising people but pretty quickly that has turned in to his old tricks.
He belittles players in public
Drops players and makes them resent him rather than want to play better for him
Moans about bad luck and how he’s basically working miracles with what he’s got
Has basically said spurs season is already over
Plays dour safety first football
Says he doesn’t have the squad to compete in all the games he has to play etc etc

Every spurs fan I know has already turned against him

Emery was flop but at least he wasn't toxic. So on the whole I'd say we dodged a bullet ... which subsequently found its way into the nether regions of our neighbours :laughing7: :laughing7: .

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Post #419885  Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:10 am 
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Arsenal fans won’t be able to use their 7 home cup game credits this season. We’ve only played 5 cup games at home and have no chance of any more. It means the club are having to give a rebate to season ticket holders for the 2 games. Seen some estimate this is about £4.5m.....or about 3 months of Özil’s wage to put it another way.


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Arsenal fans won’t be able to use their 7 home cup game credits this season. We’ve only played 5 cup games at home and have no chance of any more. It means the club are having to give a rebate to season ticket holders for the 2 games. Seen some estimate this is about £4.5m.....or about 3 months of Özil’s wage to put it another way.


Interesting.

I wonder how it will work if the fixture list is suspended, cancelled or all matches are played behind closed doors?


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Rich wrote:
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Tottenham are out. Drew 1-1 but Norwich beat them in the penalty shootout.

Eric Dier has just run up in to the stand and had an ‘altercation’ with a spurs fan. Video on twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gafWr4v_fyE

According to Jose he went to defend his younger brother.

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Post #419888  Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:57 am 
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It's all unravelling down at 'The Lane That Time Forgot' (copyright CB). That place can turn toxic in a heartbeat and when it does, it's far far worse than anything we ever see at The Arse. The periods of unrest and protest under AW and Ernie were largely characterised by empty seats. I used to go down there regularly in the '60 with mates to watch what was then a team in decline after their 1961 Double. I have never heard anything approaching the abuse they used to hurl, in particular in those days at Alan Mullery - who was widely hated for not being John White. Hundreds/thousands of foaming-mouthed grown men would scream at him every time he touched the ball. Classy.


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Arsenal fans won’t be able to use their 7 home cup game credits this season. We’ve only played 5 cup games at home and have no chance of any more. It means the club are having to give a rebate to season ticket holders for the 2 games. Seen some estimate this is about £4.5m.....or about 3 months of Özil’s wage to put it another way.


Interesting.

I wonder how it will work if the fixture list is suspended, cancelled or all matches are played behind closed doors?

That bastion of wisdom Matt Hancock said closed doors would just lead to people watching together down the pub and catching corona virus there.

However the euros and Olympics blatantly aren’t happening surely


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The way football is today, it probably wouldn't be the greatest financial loss if matches were played behind closed doors. Matches would be televised or streamed and there'd probably be a significant uplift in payments. As long as the TV money keeps rolling in, most clubs would probably be relatively relaxed.


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Post #419891  Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:41 am 
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Torreira has a broken ankle. That's it for his season.


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Torreira has a broken ankle. That's it for his season.

Compare the penalty for that tackle with the Aubameyang’s red card. Inconsistent or what? And the commentators were justifying the tackle.

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Emery was flop but at least he wasn't toxic. So on the whole I'd say we dodged a bullet ... which subsequently found its way into the nether regions of our neighbours :laughing7: :laughing7: .
Yes when he signed up with Spurs that was almost as good as us winning a trophy. So glad he got no nearer to our club than the away benches.

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Eric Dier has just run up in to the stand and had an ‘altercation’ with a spurs fan. Video on twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gafWr4v_fyE

According to Jose he went to defend his younger brother.
I know its probably not the best thing he has ever done, but something in me admires Dier's reactions. I have always rated the guy's passion and if he is pissed off with the Spurs fans, I wouldn't say no if he came our way. No Fancy Dan that one.

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Torreira has a broken ankle. That's it for his season.

Compare the penalty for that tackle with the Aubameyang’s red card. Inconsistent or what? And the commentators were justifying the tackle.


I missed it the other night but having viewed it, it's a clear example of a scissor tackle - the type that's supposed to have been outlawed. Strange that Mike LOOK-AT-ME Dean missed it, isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgU2toNxzng&feature=emb_logo

Poor sod.

EDIT - reading the caption beneath the video, it says "Lucas Torreira injured his leg". Simple. Mike Dean clearly agreed.


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We avoided City, Man Utd and Chelsea, although going to Sheffield won't be easy by any measure.
Hoping Man Utd get upset today but not much chance of that happening either. I expect City or Leicester to win the competition but it would be nice if made it into the finals and get a bit of luck there. Lifting a trophy would do wonders for this team.

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I know its probably not the best thing he has ever done, but something in me admires Dier's reactions. I have always rated the guy's passion and if he is pissed off with the Spurs fans, I wouldn't say no if he came our way. No Fancy Dan that one.

Another midfielder we have been linked is Southampton's Hojbjerg... wouldn't say no to this one either.
Don't know much about him, but Soton have good players.

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old man of hoy wrote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gafWr4v_fyE

According to Jose he went to defend his younger brother.
I know its probably not the best thing he has ever done, but something in me admires Dier's reactions. I have always rated the guy's passion and if he is pissed off with the Spurs fans, I wouldn't say no if he came our way. No Fancy Dan that one.

There was an admirable implacability about the way he kept going. I just can't imagine Bellerin doing that.

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Another midfielder we have been linked is Southampton's Hojbjerg... wouldn't say no to this one either.

How on earth is that pronounced? :1laughter:

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old man of hoy wrote:
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Another midfielder we have been linked is Southampton's Hojbjerg... wouldn't say no to this one either.
Don't know much about him, but Soton have good players.


Hey Old Man - you seen the Jimmy Greaves documentary yet? BT Sports production. It's excellent.

He was truly an amazing player but had the misfortune to play at a time of very limited TV coverage. He was solely a back-page sensation, not like Best who was an all-round media darling.


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old man of hoy wrote:
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Another midfielder we have been linked is Southampton's Hojbjerg... wouldn't say no to this one either.
Don't know much about him, but Soton have good players.


Lamina, at Bournemouth I think, is another with bags of potential, bought from Southampton I believe. Young and I think with a reputation for a bit of an attitude.


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Hey Old Man - you seen the Jimmy Greaves documentary yet? BT Sports production. It's excellent. He was truly an amazing player but had the misfortune to play at a time of very limited TV coverage. He was solely a back-page sensation, not like Best who was an all-round media darling.
Hi DHD - I haven't seen it but very much want to. He was a phenomenonal goalscorer - the original fox-in-the-box. I believe he once said one of his regrets in football was not playing for The Arsenal. A WBA mate of mine recalls him scoring 5 goals in a 7-1 win over the Albion, and maintains Jimmy only touched the ball five times! Probably an exaggeration but he was that predatory.

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Nope, I’m thinking of Jefferson Lerma :1laughter:

There is a Mario LEMINA who is on loan from Southampton at Glatasary who came via French national set up and then Juve with a big reputation. Not him.

Jefferson Lerma apparently is a DM who can play at RB.


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Yes I’m going to start banging the drum for this guy or Doucoure at Watford. I think he’d do the job nicely for us. Youngish but not too young, premier league experience, keeps it simple and really mobile. Here’s a performance from February against Chelsea

I’d be very happy with a signing like that. Although I’m guessing it’d take about £30m in today’s market if he’s got a long contract.


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And he’s already scored for us!!

https://talksport.com/football/451225/a ... -goal/amp/

This is just meant to be. Let the record show that I called it.


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old man of hoy wrote:
I believe he once said one of his regrets in football was not playing for The Arsenal.

Greaves definitely said that. I remember it well; albeit not that well as I don’t recall if it was a television or printed interview.


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I believe he once said one of his regrets in football was not playing for The Arsenal.

Greaves definitely said that. I remember it well; albeit not that well as I don’t recall if it was a television or printed interview.


I watched him regularly due to being dragged down to the hinterlands by my mates. He was truly incredible. Hate to admit it but he’d be right up there with the best strikers I’ve ever seen. You young-uns - just check his stats.


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DHD wrote:
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Greaves definitely said that. I remember it well; albeit not that well as I don’t recall if it was a television or printed interview.


I watched him regularly due to being dragged down to the hinterlands by my mates. He was truly incredible. Hate to admit it but he’d be right up there with the best strikers I’ve ever seen. You young-uns - just check his stats.

Surely the most prolific English striker of all time. He even scored 9 in 12 for ac Milan and he never wanted to go there and was trying to get himself booted out.

My mate is a Barnet fan and said in greaves season he spent there it was height of his drink problem and he still turned up every week and scored goals.


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I watched him regularly due to being dragged down to the hinterlands by my mates. He was truly incredible. Hate to admit it but he’d be right up there with the best strikers I’ve ever seen. You young-uns - just check his stats.

Surely the most prolific English striker of all time. He even scored 9 in 12 for ac Milan and he never wanted to go there and was trying to get himself booted out.

My mate is a Barnet fan and said in greaves season he spent there it was height of his drink problem and he still turned up every week and scored goals.

Fantastic player. In my view the best English striker ever. Made it look so easy. Also one of the earliest TV pundits (Saint and Greavsie) on ITV.
I actually played against him for Eton Manor when he was at Barnet and he shattered a few illusions...didn't stop moaning at the ref...miserable as hell...
This hasn't affected my opinion of his football prowess....an all time great....wish he'd played for us. Having said that he was surrounded by better players at Spurs in the early mid sixties than what we had....he might not have flourished so much for us...who knows.


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If we need to make some extra money from sales then perhaps we need to be ruthless with some of the players from the academy. I don’t mean the likes of Nketiah or Nelson - unless utterly stupid money is offered.
But looking down at some of those guys who are 21 ish and have gone on loans. A bit like Bielik last year, didn’t we get £10m for him. That’s a great deal. Not everyone can generate that sort of sale but we need to make a call on some players and sell them. The loan gives the exposure but we can’t just keep loaning these boys out hoping they’ll show their Arsenal quality, all the while their contract runs down.


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I saw a reserve match at Barnet many years ago and I loved the atmosphere. If I lived in England I think I would spend a lot of time at the small clubs. Reminds me of the same in America at small colleges and HS games.


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:22encouragement: :53big-emoticons:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=226025718530301

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Another great Jose moment

https://www.thenational.ae/sport/footba ... m-1.988945

Apparently he can only prioritise one game for the week Burnley or Leipzeg. I wonder how other managers have done it over the years. He is turning into a joke - but the good news is he is Spurs joker.

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Interesting to see the media reaction to Dier climbing over seats to confront a fan in the stands. It has generally been its was the wrong thing to do but we all understand why he did it and therefore it can be excused and really we should open up a discussion on fan abuse.

I wonder what the reaction would have been if it had been Xhaka, Özil or Pogba (ie a foreign player who the media love to criticise at any opportunity)


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This coronavirus is looking really serious now. If cases rise exponentially, which seems likely once it takes hold, then you would think that major sporting events would have to be postponed.

Look at what is happening in Italy.

I've heard experts say that its a mild illness comparable to flu but I've also seen interviews with people who have now recovered after suffering with the virus and they have said how bad it is.

If this becomes a worldwide pandemic, if it's not already, then who knows what will happen.


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old man of hoy wrote:
I know its probably not the best thing he has ever done, but something in me admires Dier's reactions. I have always rated the guy's passion and if he is pissed off with the Spurs fans, I wouldn't say no if he came our way. No Fancy Dan that one.

Wouldn't want him as a player but definitely respect what he did in defending his brother.

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I know its probably not the best thing he has ever done, but something in me admires Dier's reactions. I have always rated the guy's passion and if he is pissed off with the Spurs fans, I wouldn't say no if he came our way. No Fancy Dan that one.

Wouldn't want him as a player but definitely respect what he did in defending his brother.


According to a Spurs mate, Dier has apparently been playing like an absolute drain for weeks, ever since he came back from illness. As usually happens down there, the crowd have turned on him big-style to the point where's he's become the lightning rod for all the club's ills. It's not helped by the fact that he grew up in Portugal and is widely believed to be unduly favoured by Mourinho.


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Greaves definitely said that. I remember it well; albeit not that well as I don’t recall if it was a television or printed interview.


I watched him regularly due to being dragged down to the hinterlands by my mates. He was truly incredible. Hate to admit it but he’d be right up there with the best strikers I’ve ever seen. You young-uns - just check his stats.
An amusing man too. I like the story about Alf Ramsey taking elocution lessons in order to help his upward mobility in the eyes of the FA. Alf was trying hard to shed his East London working-class roots. In the England dressing room Jimmy, who grew up in the same part of London as Alf, is said to have enquired of his manager how much the lessons cost. On hearing the reply Jimmy advised Alf in front of all the players he had wasted his money. Alf had the last laugh by leaving Jimmy out of the World Cup final.

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I watched him regularly due to being dragged down to the hinterlands by my mates. He was truly incredible. Hate to admit it but he’d be right up there with the best strikers I’ve ever seen. You young-uns - just check his stats.
An amusing man too. I like the story about Alf Ramsey taking elocution lessons in order to help his upward mobility in the eyes of the FA. Alf was trying hard to shed his East London working-class roots. In the England dressing room Jimmy, who grew up in the same part of London as Alf, is said to have enquired of his manager how much the lessons cost. On hearing the reply Jimmy advised Alf in front of all the players he had wasted his money. Alf had the last laugh by leaving Jimmy out of the World Cup final.

And he came sixth in the 1970 London to Mexico rally. Hard to imagine Harry Kane doing something similar during the off-season.

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This coronavirus is looking really serious now. If cases rise exponentially, which seems likely once it takes hold, then you would think that major sporting events would have to be postponed.

Look at what is happening in Italy.

I've heard experts say that its a mild illness comparable to flu but I've also seen interviews with people who have now recovered after suffering with the virus and they have said how bad it is.

If this becomes a worldwide pandemic, if it's not already, then who knows what will happen.


A pandemic of sorts is the very kind of "black swan" event that will trigger a global economic crash with it. The main people dying from it are those over 60, elderly largely due to having diminished immune systems and people with existing health issues that have over stressed immune systems.

If you are relatively young and healthy you won't probably die from it. The very curious thing is that there are some areas with a lot of Chinese that have very few cases, especially sub Saharan Africa even though they have by far the largest number of expat Chinese working there. 10s of thousands but no real outbreak among the native populous. Same with India, Thailand and Philippines. The latter two having many Chinese tourists.
South America seems curiously unaffected as well. Its mainly Europe, northern Asia and America.

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