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Post #357281  Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:46 pm 
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Saw this on Twitter:
Mike Dean booking someone for over the top gesticulating is the height of irony
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Post #357282  Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:47 pm 
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Good goal, lovely cross and even better finish from Sokratis. Up until then far too slow and too many touches and not getting the ball quickly enough to the wide men. Nelson and Martinelli have the beating of their man but they aren’t getting it quickly enough.

Mike Dean, what more is there to say about him. The booking of Guendouzi is a joke, he stopped him taking the free kick twice so Guendouzi rather sarcastically makes a show of placing the ball so it is still and takes the free kick. That pricks Dean’s ego so he books him. Is that dissent? Then a Pompey player gets away with no booking for the most cynical trip on Ceballos.
I think Dean thrives on the complaints players make to his decisions, the more complaints the more ill keep giving free kicks against you and not giving you anything. I don’t think Dean is a home ref, that would mean he’s weak, and he’s the opposite of weak, he refs exactly how he wants.
It did feel like the smallest touch was a free kick for them but as they were seen as the aggressive pressing team they were seemingly allowed to get away with a lot more touch tight marking.

Your comments on Dean are spot on.

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I think people need to get away from the ‘win the ball’ argument for overly aggressive tackles. The tackle on Torreira was a scissor follow through with excessive force, just because he won the ball first doesn’t mean it can’t be punished. The rules are there to protect players, players have a responsibility to each other even after they win the ball. Far too many players in the English game see a 70/30 tackle as an opportunity to give their opponent a damn good whack sure in the knowledge that winning the ball will save them any punishment
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Post #357284  Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:58 pm 
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Super goal. Nelson, finished off by Nketiah. Nice.

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Post #357285  Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:58 pm 
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Qualideeee....
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Well done reiss
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Great play from Nelson. As I said at half time, get the ball to him quicker and get him 1v1 with a bit of space behind and he’s miles to quick for the full back. Just breezed last him and put in a good ball
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Post #357288  Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:00 pm 
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Lovely cross, sweet finish :53big-emoticons:
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Post #357289  Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:01 pm 
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An AG esque goal. Not the best game we have had but I will take the goals.

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Post #357290  Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:01 pm 
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That should be that.

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Jeez that was a sharp finish. Using the other leg at the very last moment when I thought the chance was gone. A lot more life and getting some decent balls across in this half. So basically most of these players were not good enough the other night. At least they are trying.

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'Human' is in question.

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Mari is a ‘project’.
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bromley gooner wrote:
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Mari is a ‘project’.

I like the look of him.
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Mari is a ‘project’.

It’s encouraging that he is vocally organising his fellow defenders.

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According to Jermaine Jenas Portsmouth didn’t get the reward that they deserved in the first half hour.

I would disagree. Given that they had zero shots on target they got exactly what they deserved.

In fact they’ve still not had a shot on target.

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According to Jermaine Jenas Portsmouth didn’t get the reward that they deserved in the first half hour


He can jog on.
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According to Jermaine Jenas Portsmouth didn’t get the reward that they deserved in the first half hour.

I would disagree. Given that they had zero shots on target they got exactly what they deserved.

Jermaine Penus is such a wally. You’d have thought Pompey were bombarding us the way he was carrying on
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That was great from Saka

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Thoughts on Mari? Looks composed and comfortable but it is Portsmouth.

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Thoughts on Mari? Looks composed and comfortable but it is Portsmouth.

A good start, as you say though not very demanding opposition.
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Was there no other player available than Xhaka to come on. Maybe a young player for a few minutes. I shake my head

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Was there no other player available than Xhaka to come on. Maybe a young player for a few minutes. I shake my head

Pépé ?
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Thoughts on Mari? Looks composed and comfortable but it is Portsmouth.

We’re all desperately hoping that there’s a quality centre back there. We sure need one.

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We just to miss that bit of guile to open up teams. That final ball
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Was there no other player available than Xhaka to come on. Maybe a young player for a few minutes. I shake my head

Pépé ?

AMN either would do. But instead Xhaka gets another appearance bonus.

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We just to miss that bit of guile to open up teams. That final ball

Well we do have official sponsors of Ovaltine and Mogodon.

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We just to miss that bit of guile to open up teams. That final ball

Another goal or two would have been nice. We've passed them to death second half.
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AMN on in the 90th minute. We are 2-0 up. What is the point?

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We just to miss that bit of guile to open up teams. That final ball

Another goal or two would have been nice. We've passed them to death second half.

74% possession.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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Pépé ?

AMN either would do. But instead Xhaka gets another appearance bonus.

Arteta doesn't fancy Ainsley much, does he.
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Decent result. We need to try and be more direct from central positions though
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Ha ha. Nice one Martin Keown. Just slipped in the fact that Arsenal went a whole league season unbeaten. What a star.

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After a slow start some good performances from the younger or newer players. Some will say it was only Portsmouth but then again some well paid players at the club only had to play Olympiocas the other night and we were already leading 1-0 before we started. So not brilliant but a functional win and we repelled them pretty well.

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AMN either would do. But instead Xhaka gets another appearance bonus.

Arteta doesn't fancy Ainsley much, does he.

I'm 63 and probably ahead of him in the pecking order at the club

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According to Jermaine Jenas Portsmouth didn’t get the reward that they deserved in the first half hour.

I would disagree. Given that they had zero shots on target they got exactly what they deserved.

In fact they’ve still not had a shot on target.

Such biased commentary in potential giant killing cup sides is so annoying. I get that a lot of people will tune in hoping for the upset but commentate properly. Amongst other things it is patronising to the smaller team.

I see big teams dominate games and lose 1-0 and it is a totally deserved victory for the small team. If the roles were reversed and the same game played out it would be incredibly harsh on the minnow who deserved much more having dominated the game.
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Job done. Relatively straightforward in the end. They never really laid a glove on us.

We still cry out for craft in mf - someone who can thread a pass to our young, fast and willing runners up front.
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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Arteta doesn't fancy Ainsley much, does he.

I'm 63 and probably ahead of him in the pecking order at the club

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Rich wrote:
Such biased commentary in potential giant killing cup sides is so annoying. I get that a lot of people will tune in hoping for the upset but commentate properly. Amongst other things it is patronising to the smaller team.


I always want the underdog to win so I'm okay in principle if the commentary hopes for an upset, but I do object when it goes from light support to blatantly skewing the description of the game being played. Portsmouth did okay in the first half hour, but lets not pretend they were dominating the match.
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