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Post #457121  Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:18 pm 
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C'mon Watford, keep tit 0-0 for the half.

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Post #457122  Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:32 pm 
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I'm watching an NBC SN advert on the EPL and they show clips over the years and the then 16 year old Wayne Rooney's winner against us. I've been a fan long enough to now to have watched players from their earliest days through the end of their careers. Only the American sports afforded me that.

Rooney was destined to be a great player but I wonder how it would have worked out if he hadn't had made that goal. I still remember it very well. Still hurts to see it.

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Post #457123  Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:53 pm 
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I can't bare to watch the Watford v Liverpool game. I'm so nervous.

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Post #457124  Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:00 pm 
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Come to think of it, Wenger is probably as nervous as I am. It's his marquee accomplishment as well.

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Post #457125  Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:07 pm 
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Every time I change the channel because I can't bare to watch, Watford scores. :58big-emoticons:

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Post #457126  Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:21 pm 
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90th minute, 3-0 up, 4 minutes stoppage and I'm still nervous.

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Post #457127  Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:27 pm 
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I will toot my own horn. I did say if Liverpool lost it would be a lower half of the table side away from home where they over look and would be a 0-0 game where they get scored on later in the game and get countered.

If I were Klopp, I'd tell them they are fantastic. That for them to go this long without a loss or a draw is more than he or they could have ever imagined. To keep their heads up held up high. That he is not angry or upset. In fact, the loss should liberate them.

And the LFC away fans should applaud them off the pitch. Not for the loss but how much they have achieved.

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Post #457128  Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:28 pm 
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Post #457129  Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:29 pm 
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Watford were singing "Can we play you every week"...haha...cheeky b@stards. Wenger and the invincible squad are having a sigh of relief right now. Fabregas is smiling to himself right now.

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Post #457130  Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:29 pm 
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And so Liverpool go back to zero in an attempt to beat our 49 game unbeaten run!


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I was resigned to Liverpool going unbeaten. In fact I was surprisingly relaxed about it as they started to win game after game after game as Liverpool's run has been unprecedented.

But I'm happy our record is intact for another season.


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I can't bare to watch the Watford v Liverpool game. I'm so nervous.

Why would you take your clothes off?

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I can't bare to watch the Watford v Liverpool game. I'm so nervous.

Why would you take your clothes off?


I'm rather proud of my body. I have pics I can post. Others can PM me if they are shy :1laughter:

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I can be accused of being more concerned about Liverpool's season than ours. haha

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long time gooner wrote:
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I can't bare to watch the Watford v Liverpool game. I'm so nervous.

Why would you take your clothes off?

Soiled himself in the excitement ...? :icon_mrgreen:

Of 36 posts today ..... 16 are his nonsensical blatherings .

I sometimes muse why the f**&& couldn't he have picked Tottenham as a club to follow .


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Soiled himself with excitement ...?

Of 36 posts today ..... 16 are his nonsensical blatherings .

I sometimes muse why the f**&& couldn't he have picked Tottenham as a club to follow .

Only 16? That’s fewer than normal.


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Woke up early for a walk and it was raining. Back to bed. Awoke late and turned on TV and there was some great news- the first good news story of the week. Klopp is no better manager than George Graham - 1 defeat in a season. Now he may not even be that good if they lose again. His run and season are just another EPL winning team - nothing more than that. Tell Liverpool supporters to stick it up their a...

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Bernard wrote:
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Soiled himself with excitement ...?

Of 36 posts today ..... 16 are his nonsensical blatherings .

I sometimes muse why the f**&& couldn't he have picked Tottenham as a club to follow .

Only 16? That’s fewer than normal.



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Post #457140  Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:32 pm 
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Invincible my arse

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Liverpool have hit the wall in recent weeks, a few scrappy performances where they saw it through for wins, defeat to Athletico, nearly got turned over by West Ham and now this. Fatigue, physical and mental, sets in.
Just emphasises what a great achievement going through an entire league season unbeaten was for Arsenal.


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I will toot my own horn.

I know you're pleased Liverpool have lost, but don't you think that's taking the celebrations a bit far?


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I will toot my own horn.

I know you're pleased Liverpool have lost, but don't you think that's taking the celebrations a bit far?

He's been cheering them on to win the treble for weeks. God alone knows........

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Given what we’ve seen so far this season I’d say that is pretty accurate prediction.
Optimistic would say win v Leicester, win v saints, draws away to wolves and spurs
Pessimistic would say draw away to Brighton, draw away to villa and drop a silly draw at home to either West Ham, watford or Norwich

I think you’re optimistic and pessimistic viewpoints make sense. But another thing that has to be remembered is that on paper our easiest games are against West Ham, Brighton, Norwich, Aston Villa and Watford.

But they’re all likely to be fighting relegation (unless Villa and Watford have gone before we play them). So as an overall group, why they represent some of the worst teams in the league (I would add Bournemouth to that list but we don’t have to play them again), they’re probably not going to roll over and let us beat them.

Looking at the relegation battle, many clubs will not be lying down and our team has a real history of making assumptions about how good they think they are and having games taken away from us by the opposition. Arteta has been unable to inspire the team to play for a whole game. We have had a good 20-30 minutes or sometimes a half of football but often dire for the rest of the game. None of the teams we have to play will start a game believing - Arsenal will win it. I suppose from our perspective we need to get to 40 points first. But I will be looking with great interest as to how we perfom against the likes of Spurs and Liverpool. Any blow outs would be deeply concerning.

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Well. I can breathe easier. Older fans on here have the '71 side, the '79 cup, ,89 (still surreal seeing the goal in video) and a European cup in the 90s.

I have the '04 season. It's the one iconic event of my support and I want to hold on to its uniqueness as long a I can.

Hopefully I will see us win a CL in my life time.

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kiwipete wrote:
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Why would you take your clothes off?

Soiled himself in the excitement ...? :icon_mrgreen:

Of 36 posts today ..... 16 are his nonsensical blatherings .

I sometimes muse why the f**&& couldn't he have picked Tottenham as a club to follow .

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Pool finally lost :58big-emoticons:

Our records are intact :53big-emoticons:

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We may have another big win in us but there are too many big clubs still in the FA cup for me to take ourselves seriously in the competition. Either Chelsea or Liverpool will be out, but both Manchester clubs and Tottenham should get through.

Man Utd and Tottenham are within reach within the league but we'd have to go on a run the likes of which we haven't been able to come close to doing all season or last for that matter. We're not capable of such a run in our present form.

The season is more or less a wash right now. We can try and get a big win or two and the players can become comfortable in Arteta's system. That's about all we have left probably.

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I think 4 of our records stayed in tact with that Watford win yesterday.
1. Invincible season
2. 49 game unbeaten run
3. Scoring in every game in a season
4. Going unbeaten away from home (twice)


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kiwipete wrote:
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Only 16? That’s fewer than normal.



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I think coronavirus probably has more friends than our blathering idiot.

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11 games to go in the EPL. 7 very winnable games in amongst a couple of hard ones.

So what do people consider an appropriate return, that would suggest we are improving?

I don’t see seven as particularly easy to win. My prediction is five wins, two draws and four defeats, as follows:

West Ham H - 3 points
Brighton A - 3 points
Southampton A - 1 point
Norwich H - 3 points
Wolverhampton A - 0 points
Manchester City A - 0 points
Leicester H - 1 point
Tottenham A - 0 points
Liverpool H - 0 points
Aston Villa A - 3 points
Watford H -3 points

Whether seventeen points from eleven games represents an appropriate return is debatable. Also, my predictions won’t all be right. But I don’t see Southampton away and Leicester home as very winnable if they are part of your seven.

Two points per game would be a 'appropriate return'. 22 points would get us close to Champions League qualification, if the current contenders continue at the rather mediocre rate of 1.5-1.6 points per game.

As for how many points we will get ... apart from City away, I would not bet on the outcome of any of those games!

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We may have another big win in us but there are too many big clubs still in the FA cup for me to take ourselves seriously in the competition. Either Chelsea or Liverpool will be out, but both Manchester clubs and Tottenham should get through.

Man Utd and Tottenham are within reach within the league but we'd have to go on a run the likes of which we haven't been able to come close to doing all season or last for that matter. We're not capable of such a run in our present form.

The season is more or less a wash right now. We can try and get a big win or two and the players can become comfortable in Arteta's system. That's about all we have left probably.

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Have you looked at the table and the form of the teams in 4th to 8th?

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Come to think of it, Wenger is probably as nervous as I am. It's his marquee accomplishment as well.

Yes, I'm sure he's also relieved that he can finally pack away the rubber sheets for the season!

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Accurate long range shooting, gk makes a mistake and Man U get a goal.
We need to give our opponents the opportunity to make a mistake far more


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Accurate long range shooting, gk makes a mistake and Man U get a goal.
We need to give our opponents the opportunity to make a mistake far more

In fairness Rich, that was an absolute howler by Pickford. You don't expect to score from a shot like that.

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We should reward Watford and buy Ismaila Sarr.

...and made to answer why they are called the Hornets with a moose on their emblem.

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Tottenham. :53big-emoticons:

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Liverpool have hit the wall in recent weeks, a few scrappy performances where they saw it through for wins, defeat to Athletico, nearly got turned over by West Ham and now this. Fatigue, physical and mental, sets in.
Just emphasises what a great achievement going through an entire league season unbeaten was for Arsenal.

I read about Liverpool’s xG, in the 12 games prior to the West Ham game they conceded 3 goals but the xG said they ‘should’ have conceded 9 goals. XG is a good stat because it is showing the quality of the chance conceded. Liverpool were being fortunate that their opponents weren’t putting away the chances they created, them in TG e West Ham and watford games they conceded 5 from an xG of just over 3.

xG could also be used to paint a more realistic picture of that 22 game unbeaten run by Emery. Opponents were missing chances they’d normally take and we were scoring at an unsustainable rate.


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Accurate long range shooting, gk makes a mistake and Man U get a goal.
We need to give our opponents the opportunity to make a mistake far more

In fairness Rich, that was an absolute howler by Pickford. You don't expect to score from a shot like that.

Agreed, but if you never shoot and don’t get any shots on target you don’t even have the chance of that 1/100 mistake or deflection.

Every GK in history has proven they can have a howler and fudge one in to their own net.


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Okay sigh of relief over, Liverpool has lost and I can devote my energies to The Arsenal :42laughter: We have a game in hand against Man Utd and Tottenham, we win that and its game on. The run in is going to test Arteta's managerial skill and we can see just how much mental toughness the squad has grown, if at all.

Home to West Ham, away to Brighton, are winnable. Away to Soton has banana peel written all over it. It gets trickier down the road, games against Leicester and Tottenham. We are going to need help from other teams for sure.

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