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AmericanGooner · **#384521**

...and they may even have it reduced on appeal.

AmericanGooner · **#384522**

If Norwich can manage a draw I'll be happy.

AmericanGooner · **#384523**

Assuming Liverpool finish out the season with possibly no more than 2 or 3 matches with dropped points, it must be considered the best season ever by a team surely. I'm hearing pundits debate and while I am no English football historian by any stretch, i'd have to think must be.

I envision the problem for Liverpool is maintaining hunger after they have won the league officially. Presumably they will be in 2 other competitions and it will be harder to get up mentally for league matches.

AmericanGooner · **#384524**

Gotta give it to Liverpool. The league was won before the new year if we are honest. They are now in a frame of mind a draw isn't good enough and if I were a fly on the wall in their changing room, I'm willing to guess that they are still upset at the one draw they have and believe to their core they should have all wins.

This mindset may come back to haunt them. I can envision them drawing 0-0 or 1-1 very late in the game and instead of shutting up shop they push for the winner and get countered.

Kudos must be given to Norwich to keep them from scoring till the 78th minute. Far better than the vast majority of sides this season. Goes to show you, you can't count any side out. Even bottom of the table.

Gaz from Oz · **#384525**

kiwipete wrote:

Gaz from Oz wrote:

So let me ask, which games do you think it will be okay to fail to win. Is a draw at Norwich okay? These are all winnable games I would think. What follows after these is a difficult run. We need to build some momentum. If you tell people it is okay to fail, then there is no impetus for change. I would like to know what you and others believe is an acceptable return.

"Acceptable return " Gaz ? .... we don't get relegated ........ which seemed highly likely with Emery / Ljungberg in charge .

You seem to struggle to realise apart from Klopp's mob streaking away into the sunset , the Premier League is very competitive .
Man Uted have lost at home to Wolves , Norwich , Burnley
Man City who are light years in front of us in financial clout have lost at Norwich and Newcastle

From those halcyon Bergkamp , Pires , Henry , Fabregas , van Persie days we have lost our mojo completely , the likes of Norwich , Southampton , Brighton , Wolves no longer tremble in their boots when the Arsenal team coach rolls into town .

You rattle of a succession of ' little teams ' we supposedly should beat easily if we turned the clock back fifteen years , but nothing is guaranteed and warming up for a grizzle about Arteta should we fail to beat a couple of them is not grasping the nettle

.......because we are at the moment " a little team " .

As a footnote I've got to say I've gone off Ljungberg , liked him as a player but as a manager I see him as a smiling clucking ineffective meally mouth .

I am afraid I am a dying breed. (some will say thank God for that). I expect if a player earns 200k per week that he will perform better than a player who earns 30k per week. So if for instance our team has a player on 200k per week (lets call him A), a player on 320k per week (O)+ another forward on say 150k(L) = a new bloke on say 120k (P - I have no idea of his wages) + a 100K (X) +++, then I have an exoectation that they will beat a team where the wage may be around 500-600k for the whole team including reserves. So you could say I have expectations people will perform.

If you tell the team we are not good enough then they will perform to your expectation. If you empower people and inspire them to achieve the good ones will do just that. Whether Arteta can do that is the question.

As for the statement that the Premier League is very competitive other than for Liverpool. Well then that means it is not competitive. Aust 1 NZ 0. I will use the underarm, perfectly legitimate delivery later.

warrior · **#384526**

Gunfire wrote:

Was it just 6 years ago they were caught previously and have not bothered to try and improve behaviour.

No - They only tried harder not getting caught.

Gaz from Oz · **#384527**

Just assume this story has an credence at all
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer- ... m-sterling

RM to pay up to 180mil for Sterling. Then please explain how that club is ever within the FFP rules. The TV rights in Spain are a lot less and they have been bailed out a number of times. Many years ago they were rumoured to owe 500mil. Ticket prices are less in Spain. They have numerous high earners.

I am not having sympathy for City, what I want is consistency. City are an easy target - they are not one of the chosen ones. We are in the same boat.

Gaz from Oz · **#384528**

I wonder if this has legs. Tierney to Leicester

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... upamecano/

Might explain the purchase of the Southampton bloke.

kiwipete · **#384529**

Gaz from Oz wrote:

I am afraid I am a dying breed. (some will say thank God for that). I expect if a player earns 200k per week that he will perform better than a player who earns 30k per week. So if for instance our team has a player on 200k per week (lets call him A), a player on 320k per week (O)+ another forward on say 150k(L) = a new bloke on say 120k (P - I have no idea of his wages) + a 100K (X) +++, then I have an exoectation that they will beat a team where the wage may be around 500-600k for the whole team including reserves. So you could say I have expectations people will perform.

If you tell the team we are not good enough then they will perform to your expectation. If you empower people and inspire them to achieve the good ones will do just that. Whether Arteta can do that is the question.

As for the statement that the Premier League is very competitive other than for Liverpool. Well then that means it is not competitive. Aust 1 NZ 0. I will use the underarm, perfectly legitimate delivery later.

a dying breed alright , full blown Alzheimers , dementia , lupis you name it .

Taking Liverpool out of the equation ; any team can beat any other team that means the rest of the league is competitive .....

You have expectations a team assembled for fifteen million will beat one of 500k ...Liverpool v Wimbledon , Arsenal v Walsall , Leeds v Sunderland , Norwich v Man City , Man U v Burnley , Arsenal v York City

... how many examples do you want ...underarm all you like ...................... Australia 0 NZ 2

long time gooner · **#384530**

Gunfire wrote:

long time gooner wrote:

I wasn’t meaning to suggest it as a defence. I was simply wondering why there aren’t other cases.

This is their second time being caught. Was it just 6 years ago they were caught previously and have not bothered to try and improve behaviour. Incredibly arrogant attitude towards UEFA as well didn't help their cause.

I have no sympathy whatsoever for Man City. The whole ‘project’ is loathsome.

What really annoys me is that other similar situations seem to be condoned for no apparent good reason. PSG are the most extreme example but such as Real Madrid are right up there too.

Bernard · **#384531**

long time gooner wrote:

I have no sympathy whatsoever for Man City. The whole ‘project’ is loathsome.

What really annoys me is that other similar situations seem to be condoned for no apparent good reason. PSG are the most extreme example but such as Real Madrid are right up there too.

All I will say for City is that every time they’ve won the league, it means Manchester United, Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea haven’t. I dislike those four much more than City, so for me there have been benefits to their financial doping.

Sadly they haven’t been keeping up with Liverpool this season.

Lincoln gooner · **#384532**

Gaz from Oz wrote:

I wonder if this has legs. Tierney to Leicester

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... upamecano/

Might explain the purchase of the Southampton bloke.

I thought Cédric was a right back. Maybe we're getting a deal done to extend Saka's contract- I hope so because he's up there with Martinelli in my opinion as an exceptional young player.
On the other hand, it's the Sun, so it could be a complete load of bollocks.

grantyboy · **#384533**

*%^@ Man City and their cheating financial doping. I just hope they get their titles stripped as well. Happened to Canterbury Bulldogs in the early 2000s in the rubgy league. Do it to Paris, RM and Barca and there may be a true international sport back in play. Will it happen at that grand a scale? Hell no. UEFA are as bent as any of them as proven by Seb Blatter and the World Cup scandals with hardly any of them being truly punished for what is effectively fraud.

Wilts-Gooner · **#384534**

grantyboy wrote:

*%^@ Man City and their cheating financial doping. I just hope they get their titles stripped as well. Happened to Canterbury Bulldogs in the early 2000s in the rubgy league. Do it to Paris, RM and Barca and there may be a true international sport back in play. Will it happen at that grand a scale? Hell no. UEFA are as bent as any of them as proven by Seb Blatter and the World Cup scandals with hardly any of them being truly punished for what is effectively fraud.

Just makes life easier for Liverpool and co., UEFA are two faced banning City but P$G, Chelsea, RM and Barca all get away with it.. not watched a CL game for years and don't intend to start again anytime soon.

Does this mean 5th place gets CL this season?, not that we're even good enough for that under KSE's terrible ownership of a once great English football institution!.

#FckKSE
#FckUEFA

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AmericanGooner · **#384535**

Mourinho looks old. I mean 'he's aged' prematurely type of old.

AmericanGooner · **#384536**

D*mn it, the scum equalized.

AmericanGooner · **#384537**

Back in LA and went past the construction of the LA Rams stadium. It's looking pretty damn nice actually. Nice to see our money is going to good use.

AmericanGooner · **#384538**

The EPL has to develop a faster way to check on VAR. The NFL have had VAR for a while now and give decisions fairly quickly.
One way to cut down on it is to only check VAR when a team challenges it and do what American leagues do and give each side a limited number of challenges. 2 or 3 per team per half or 5 total for the game.
Mistakes are part of the game and you'll never have a perfect game. Referees checking every little decision will slow the game down. American football is not continuous like football is. So, its imperative that football does VAR in a way it doesn't stop or slow the progress of the game too much.

AmericanGooner · **#384539**

Hold on Villa.

Lincoln gooner · **#384540**

AmericanGooner wrote:

Hold on Villa.

Well done American :20hospitals:

AmericanGooner · **#384541**

Villa, I gave you the AG luck and you squandered it! :8angers:

TOP GUN · **#384542**

Interesting team selection.

Could be a team with goals in it

AmericanGooner · **#384543**

Arteta shaking things up a bit. Ceballos, Nketiah, no Lacazette, I'm a fan of Ceballos, I think he will do well. He needs a run of games to get back into things, it may not happen in this match but I think he will come good.

bubblechris · **#384544**

and no Lacazette...................

AmericanGooner · **#384545**

Mustafi must rank near the top of most starts for us over his career.

bubblechris · **#384546**

Aubameyang at cf makes my day............Everything crossed.

AmericanGooner · **#384547**

The pundit said we are unbeaten in 2020. The run to go unbeaten and retake once Liverpool gets it started on January 1st.

AmericanGooner · **#384548**

The commentator said "He didn't need to do that" referring to Xhaka holding the player and I'm thinking "Yes, he does, he's slow as molasses."

Rich · **#384549**

Xhaka early yellow for a shirt pull. We will never be able to coach it out of him.

Lincoln gooner · **#384550**

Xhaka picks up a yellow after 8 minutes.

Rich · **#384551**

Sounds like we haven’t even got started yet. Crowd get on the teams back so quickly but equally the players start so slowly in so many teams which fails to lift the crowd at all.

AmericanGooner · **#384552**

When you watch Barcelona, City, Liverpool, the first instinct of the midfield players who receive the ball in the middle of the pitch is to look to pass forward, our players look to kick it backwards. Frustrating to watch.

AmericanGooner · **#384553**

We aren't direct enough. Simple as that.

long time gooner · **#384554**

ZZZZ. Have we had a shot yet?

AmericanGooner · **#384555**

Glad the coaches are reading the SG forum and particularly my comments in real time. A bit better Arsenal.

AmericanGooner · **#384556**

...not great but a wee bit.

bubblechris · **#384557**

Loads of empty seats on the far side................

long time gooner · **#384558**

Last 5 minutes much more promising. At least we now look like the home side.

AmericanGooner · **#384559**

Saka spends too much time doing step overs. One time it sometimes into the box or to a player. Get some one touch football going.

socrates · **#384560**

Pépé needs to take the game by the scruff of the neck. I don't want to see him make little two yard passes, I want to see him dribble past players and make runs in behind. Get the crowd going.

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