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Post #354201  Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:10 pm 
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Holy crap. 0-3. More knife through butter.

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I'm watching this instead.


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Post #354203  Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:13 pm 
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A few stark realities on show for all to see today.


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Post #354204  Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:13 pm 
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Rightly pointed out, why take so long to put in the substitute? We are slow to attack, and just as slow to substitute. Just no urgency in us.

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Post #354205  Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:14 pm 
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Guendouzi is having an absolute nightmare.

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Post #354206  Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:18 pm 
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A ray of hope is that even Silent Stan can't ignore this any longer. Right now it's to hellwithwell meaning waffle about Arsenal DNA. Just get a manager who can organise a defence.

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Post #354207  Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:18 pm 
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Wake up, check score. Ahem. Expecting 7-0 by the morning. Arsenal back into a relegation battle. More importantly, off back to sleep.


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A ray of hope is that even Silent Stan can't ignore this any longer. Right now it's to hellwithwell meaning waffle about Arsenal DNA. Just get a manager who can organise a defence.

Headhunt Simeone. Pay the man.


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Post #354209  Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:22 pm 
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What's left to say, this is a nightmare.

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This match was never going to be seriously contested. This is one of those matches you forget immediately after, and not let it affect the short term strategy of what Freddie is trying to do. You have to look at this match the same as Real Madrid or Juve or PSG coming in for a match. You do the best you can, if it goes sideways, you forget it about right after the whistle as if it never happened.

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Post #354211  Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:24 pm 
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Yeah if it carries on like this it will be 7 or 8 nil. Need something to break for us and players to rise to the challenge far more. If we’re lucky it could be as good as 5-2!


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The gulf in class between our players and their players is just way too much. Not just in skill but in attitude as well.

The commentator remarked upon the difference between De Bruyne and Özil and it is there for all to see. I'd take Özil off and put an extra midfielder in there and try to stifle City a bit.

We've got no defence and to be fair the fullbacks are receiving little protection.

Guendouzi's defensive shortcomings are being ruthlessly exposed.

It really is a sad state of affairs.


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Seem to recall a mauling by City towards the end of Barnacle Wenger's groundhog demise when they took the foot off the gas after getting a big lead. I was convinced that Guardiola told them to take it easy out of pity for Wenger. Don't expect them to show any such mercy this second half.


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City are surprisingly aggressive in the challenge without sticking legs in so giving away less fouls than you’d think when closing in on Pépé and co on the wings.

Just accept you’re inferior, work hard to keep the score down and take notes on how it should be done. Take your medicine, this is what happens when mediocrity and bad management set it.


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It’s really odd watching the team now. Impossible to get involved or invested in it at any level. Just a kind of curious detachment (probably as a defence mechanism).

The three goals, plus the almost fourth that Leno saved, followed a pattern. Simply running/passing through the Arsenal players without anyone getting remotely close to them. Remarkable.

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It’s really odd watching the team now. Impossible to get involved or invested in it at any level. Just a kind of curious detachment (probably as a defence mechanism).

The three goals, plus the almost fourth that Leno save, followed a pattern. Simply running/passing through the Arsenal players without anyone getting remotely close to them. Remarkable.

Indeed no one knows how to tackle.

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Niall wrote:
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It’s really odd watching the team now. Impossible to get involved or invested in it at any level. Just a kind of curious detachment (probably as a defence mechanism).

The three goals, plus the almost fourth that Leno save, followed a pattern. Simply running/passing through the Arsenal players without anyone getting remotely close to them. Remarkable.

Indeed no one knows how to tackle.

Don’t even get close enough to tackle.

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The second goal, I think we had 4-5 players around the guy who crossed it in, and one defender standing off their single attacker


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long time gooner wrote:
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Indeed no one knows how to tackle.

Don’t even get close enough to tackle.

Arsenal players think a tackle is for fishermen.


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The second goal, I think we had 4-5 players around the guy who crossed it in, and one defender standing off their single attacker

Kolasinac didn't have a clue where Sterling was.

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Guendouzi is having an absolute nightmare.

and with that monstrous Mané ... looks totally stupid with it .

Chambers not far behind , Kolasinac ...a marshmallow masquerading as a footballer .

If City want to go for the jugular we could lose by 10 .


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We’d do much better with Leno plus ten Martinellis.

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How the hell do you get a manager worth his salt to come in and manage this squad/most of these individuals?
Is Arteta (not saying he's the best choice/option) sat there thinking "I can't wait to take this job on"?


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We need to bring back Vieira to play I think.

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And therein lies part of our problem.....a very highly paid player does f all in the game and petulantly reacts to being subbed. What a *%^@ attitude and it runs through this team like a yellow streak.


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Ljungberg’s expression says it all. Like he can’t believe the awfulness of some of our players.

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And therein lies part of our problem.....a very highly paid player does f all in the game and petulantly reacts to being subbed. What a *%^@ attitude and it runs through this team like a yellow streak.

He deserves a holiday. In China.

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Fish wrote:
And therein lies part of our problem.....a very highly paid player does f all in the game and petulantly reacts to being subbed. What a *%^@ attitude and it runs through this team like a yellow streak.

Yes Fish, you are 100% correct there. The sooner we get that a****** out of the club the happier I will be.


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And therein lies part of our problem.....a very highly paid player does f all in the game and petulantly reacts to being subbed. What a *%^@ attitude and it runs through this team like a yellow streak.

Yes Fish, you are 100% correct there. The sooner we get that a****** out of the club the happier I will be.

320k per week if memory serves me well. :8angers:

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Yes Fish, you are 100% correct there. The sooner we get that a****** out of the club the happier I will be.

320k per week if memory serves me well. :8angers:

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Post #354231  Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:28 pm 
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Years of ignoring the defensive part of the game beautifully demonstrated in one half of football. Will City have an easier game? I almost want us to get relegated bt i don't think we'll come straight back up.

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How many yellows for them? Is there still a rule that says 5 yellows gets a fine for not controlling their players?

How are they allowed to get away with it?

How many players did we lose today?


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I didn't feel anger today, I just felt sadness. It wasn't even a lack of effort, it was men against boys physically and mentally.

Not sure where we go from here. A peak Alex Ferguson would struggle to get a tune out of this lot.

We need a big clear-out and the kind of investment only City and United can make. Not going to happen under the current regime.


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And please no more Özil.


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I actually think that in a decent team, where his occasional aberrations could be indulged, Pépé could be a really exciting player.

Martinelli barely got a pass in the second half. What a waste of a talent.


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At least FL hooked Özil, hopefully that’ll be the last we see of him. Other than that it’s pretty grim.

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I didn't feel anger today, I just felt sadness. It wasn't even a lack of effort, it was men against boys physically and mentally.

Not sure where we go from here. A peak Alex Ferguson would struggle to get a tune out of this lot.

We need a big clear-out and the kind of investment only City and United can make. Not going to happen under the current regime.

Me too.

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How many yellows for them? Is there still a rule that says 5 yellows gets a fine for not controlling their players?

How are they allowed to get away with it?

How many players did we lose today?


:laughing7: We were totally smashed and you waffle on about fouls against us ...we'd have committed a few too if we could have got anywhere near the ball .


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The players need to pretend this match never happened. I won't be surprised if we end up mid table. It won't be the end of the world. It will seem like it but it won't be. The fact is Liverpool, Man Utd and Chelsea, have all been there and/are there.

I wonder how the Kroenke's will react? That's the most important thing. We can not change things from the middle down, it MUST come from the top down. The Glaziers learned that. Man Utd fans don't complain about them any longer. The Glaziers just hire the best football men, send a blank check and shut up.

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7 pts off relegation.
Yes. Arsenal We Love You, We Do.... :flag: :sad9:

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