Then you’ll get people moaning about a lack of creativity.

I accept it was a disappointing result but I think it’s too soon to jump on the ‘sack the manager’ bandwagon, at least so early. I saw someone calling for Ljunberg to take over. Bloody hell, based on what? Liking him as a former player? A fondness of him for that reason is fair enough. But what else is there to support him taking over at a club the size of Arsenal so soon in his managerial career? For all we know, Ljungberg might have some coaching responsibility for our poorer performances.

Kroenke OUT

Happy birthday

The shot from Ceballos was absolutely dire. Put your foot through it.
Dean was right on the Saka call though, he initiated the contact.

The sooner Emery goes the better. He has an amazing ability to make all of our opponents look good.

This team is far better than this manager.

God that was painful Wenger Mark 2 ..... the timidity in our play .

The really depressing thing is we don't seem to learn anything from these repeated soft cock performances .... 68 % possession to what effect

So brainwashed are we with this f**&&^ playing out from the back that 1-0 down two minutes into injury time and we are still exchanging multi passes around near our penalty area .

Stop searching France and Spain for talented playmakers .....do a scouting trip through the Cameroons , Senegal , the Ivory Coast and buy a couple of 6' 2" slabs of concrete so we can't get outmuscled by the Watford's ,Wolves , Brighton's and Sheffield Utd's of this world .

It is exactly what was punished at the last World Cup with video evidence and everybody roundly applauded it as they were fed up with the pulling and wrestling at corners. Why have we gone backwards?

Sanlehi was Director of Football at Barcelona. He's no fool and he's watched enough good football to recognise when it's going wrong. The club gave Emery huge backing in the transfer market this summer. They won't wait for us to be out of the top 4 race.

I agree. The fans are not going to wait like they did with Wenger. A few more crap, half assed results and the support will turn quickly. I'd be surprised if there is anyone still thinking that Emery is what Arsenal needs. Including the team.

Well that was a real birthday treat for me.

As the game came towards a conclusion, the TV focused on Emery. He had that look of someone who knew that no matter how you looked at the game we had played poorly. I suspect he knows that the pressure is now building and very quickly.

Speaking of birthdays, Arsene is 70 today ...

Well the english FA decided they would use the technology in a different way than just about the rest of the world. So I suppose it maybe a backward thought process.

We’ve been told var would clear up clear and obvious errors. One look at the video can see a very clear and very obvious shirt pull. People have put stills on the net comparing it to Luiz’s shirt pull on salah. It is identical.
The var refs are totally protecting their guy on the pitch and it is corrupt and making a farce of the game. There is no doubt in my mind that the var refs have been told they shouldn’t be over turning subjective calls which is why not a single penalty has been given by var.
Var has made refs worse, now they don’t make a decision with the excuse they have var to check and all var does is back up their non decision

When Klopp and pep cane in they imparted their style of play on the team immediately. There were some disastrous performances and results as the players got to know the system and those players not fit for the system or who didn’t have the quality were moved on. Gradually they were replaced by better players recruited to suit the system and results got better.
I don’t think anyone knows either what Emery’s style is or what style the team is doing. I can’t work our what our tactics are at all!

You may recall last year I warned that VAR would create issues.

The playing out from the back thing doesn’t work. It just doesn’t, Your better off just getting Leno to put his foot through it.

The midfield is always selected without the right ingredients and you can see it’s a side with little confidence in how it’s set up.

I can’t see this getting any better even with the introduction of the full backs

The biggest question out of the debacle is - Could Emery guarantee that Özil would have been worse than the players on the pitch.

I agree. The fans are not going to wait like they did with Wenger. A few more crap, half assed results and the support will turn quickly. .

If we had played exciting attacking football last night, created lots of chances but just been unlucky, there would be room for optimism. However, this is not the case and has not been for most of Emery's tenure.

We play slow, boring, sideways football without the occasional Wengerball moments that we at least saw from Wenger sides even in the midst of his decline. We used to be the team to watch for the neutrals, now we are not even the team to watch for Arsenal fans. I have not enjoyed watching an Arsenal game for a long, long time, except perhaps for the Europa league and Carling Cup when the kids have been involved.

If there are top managers out there who are available then go get one of them. Come the end of the season who knows what big clubs might be looking for a manager and we might miss out.

Frankly (and I never thought I'd say this) I'd take Mourinho at this juncture.

Emery is out of his depth.

Anyone who wouldn’t put Guendouzi in their best side doesn’t know what they’re talking about in my view. First name on the team sheet for me.

Anyone who wouldn’t put Guendouzi in their best side doesn’t know what they’re talking about in my view. First midfielder on the team sheet for me. He is better than any of Torreira, Ceballos and Willock.

We used to be the team to watch for the neutrals, now we are not even the team to watch for Arsenal fans.

Özil away at Sheffield bloody United? You’ve got to be joking. That would be playing with ten men even if eleven are on the pitch. For me that’s as guaranteed as any non-factual opinion can be. In my view there’s a much bigger chance that reintroducing Mustafi to the back four would improve our defending.

Then you’ll get people moaning about a lack of creativity.

I accept it was a disappointing result but I think it’s too soon to jump on the ‘sack the manager’ bandwagon, at least so early. I saw someone calling for Ljunberg to take over. Bloody hell, based on what? Liking him as a former player? A fondness of him for that reason is fair enough. But what else is there to support him taking over at a club the size of Arsenal so soon in his managerial career? For all we know, Ljungberg might have some coaching responsibility for our poorer performances.

Has he coached a middle of the road Spanish club to multi-Europa League wins? As far as I’m aware Ljungberg hasn’t managed or been the head coach at a substantially sized club anywhere. Yet there are calls for him to take over. It’s crazy.

For those of you who want Emery gone, I think you should hope we fail to qualify for next season’s Champions League. Because if we do I’d bet my wine collection that he’ll still be in post next season. I see it as that simple.

Agree Bernard, great prospect, already in French team and best midfielder at the club.

There’s two Guendouzi’s though, the bit between his teeth makes stuff happen version and the version we got last night, tendency to be slightly ponderous and goes over under pressure looking for a free. He’s classy but far from the finished article and not the first name on the team sheet imo.

I think you can only play 1 of Torreira, Guendouzi and Xhaka without midfield being too static and I think Torreira is the best player of the 3.

Guendouzi is a good player but not polished and didn’t play a forward pass through the lines all game yesterday.