Sorry you are correct. I meant that the pair looked ok together and less clanger prone than Sok and Luiz.

The squad looks exciting. Which is why performances like Watford second half and Villa first half, where we couldn't defend or present a consistent threat going forward, are so frustrating. Sort out CM and CH & mix up the tactics and we could be in business.

Torreira for Xhaka, Holding for Luiz and the 2 full backs returning.

I think that could Change so much

Suddenly we've got a spine and plenty of width ... and quite a lot for the bench too.

Seems staggering that we can simply offload so many players and actually look healthier.

Looking back I think when Willock came on in the Europa final it might have been a bit of a lightbulb moment where we realised we need to try a different tact

I'm watching the league cup now. So far...

Forest doing absolutely nothing. No attack, cone like defensive positioning and Arsenal kicking it around.

Torreira excellent tactical awareness. Özil is a *%^@*** joke. Chambers I think would be good as a CB or DM. Tierney lots of energy and desire. But there is absolutely no real opposition. No 50/50 balls, no pressure.

As glad as I'd be as anyone to celebrate the awesomeness of a young team I have to look at the opposition and what they're not doing.

Martinelli looks GOOD!! He's only 18, right? Lots of time for him. So far, he is playing beyond his years. Amazing given that he's in a new country, assuming a new language as well. If what we have seen so far is any indication, we have a great crop of young players that could develop into great players.

Any word on how bad the Smith Rowe injury is?

I'm a wee bit disappointed in Özil. He seems he has given up on us (or we on him, depending on which view you take) and is going through the motions till his future is decided. He was always emotionally fragile. That was the early word on him and it remains. (I still say we'd have been much better served taking Fabregas back )

Start to 2nd half and apparently Tony Woodcock is a legendary striker of both Arsenal and Forest. Funnily I dont recall my dad being full of praise for his abilities. Maybe mistaken as I was.probably 8 but there you go.

60 minutes and I've seen nothing that is super encouraging. Forest are simply rubbish and making Arsenal look competent. Shape is still very poor and on transition look disorganised.

Even Torriera is now bombinh forward leaving a gaping hole in midfield, wide open for a counter. He never used to do that when he arrived from Italy.

At 4-0 there are oles ringing round the ground and I've still seen *%^@ all that proves any kind of progress. Arsenal were allowed to dominate by a.poor team with even worse tactics (for this match anyway)

And why the hell is Martinelli being given so many plaudits? 2 goals against shite opposition but didn't see not hear from him for the rest of the entire match.

Equally Mustafi was still crap and against better opposition would have been punished for falling over and multiple stupid cross field balls.

I read all the comments from this forum and thought wow and then watched the match and thought wtf.

Apologies if I went and enjoyed myself mate. Should've had you sat next to me for a bit of perspective.

Enjoyed it eh Granty !

Didn’t see positives in a team largely of teens and early twenties demolishing a championship side.

There was progress there and despite being a liability Mustafi was good and martinelli led the line well

Kelly Brook gave me an average blowjob last night boo hooo , sob poor me

Like conceding a daft peno in the NLD?

Same coach. Might be enough to get top 4 because Man U are dire, Chelsea hampered by a transfer ban and Tottenham regressing.

It's super to have these kids but we still need a proper style of play

Tony Woodcock was bloody good. Nowhere near my best ever Arsenal team but the front two automatically has to be Henry and Bergkamp (who is on the bench is a lot more debatable yet I’d go for van Persie). But I remember Woodcock as a really fine player.

Unbelievably harsh summary granty. You ok mate?

Lamps loses this and their PL form doesnt improve I will give him till Xmas.

Didnt Grimsby Town do in the Mancs back in the 90s once in the FA Cup?

Chelsea have gone from a likeable, sometimes in fashion London club to a money bought, rent club bereft on ethics and morals. Good riddance.

Lamps 7-1. MU going to penaltis..

At 2-1, I thought Chelsea may be in trouble but they rolled on. Man Utd though? Having to go to PKs to win? Both clubs will struggle this season...hopefully...probably.

Hoping we catch Man Utd slipping Monday. I would 'looove it, just looove it' if we beat them at OT big. But for now, I'll take a draw.

Liverpool away in the next round of the cup. Might as well play the kids

You have to put it in context. Was it a performance comparable to what we've seen Aubameyang do this season? Obviously not. But for a kid who turned 18 a couple of months ago, making his first start for the club, out of position, I find it baffling how anyone can say it wasn't a good performance.

Even more baffling how a defender can be called crap when our opponents barely had a decent chance (I can't remember a single one).

Nottingham were bad, but part of that was us making them bad by outworking them in every situation.

If you would have told me, we'd be in 4th place after 6 games with Liverpool and Tottenham being in that first 6 matches and we'd be only 2 points behind City and and 3 points ahead of Tottenham, Chelsea and Man Utd, I'd advise you to stop taking xanax along with your New Zealand wine.

We are off to a decent start. Really only one match I'd say we were 'bad' (Watford) in considering where we are as a squad. The rest of the scores aren't a shock or surprising given where we are.

Onwards to OT ...... give the armband to Aubameyang. Bring on the same drive and energy from that second half against Villa. Emery, please don't be conservative. Don't lose the initiative your lads have built for you.

Chambers should not play CH whilst Mustafi is around. As long as Mustafi has a good partner he is at least a 7 out of 10 possibly even an 8.

Liverpool away.... Oh well
Nice while it lasted.
Realistically with city and Liverpool as they are I don't see us winning the league Cup for a while.
That defence has got to be 'torn up' for the utd game.
Chambers has to come in for AMN on current form. Holding in for Sokratis and Tierney in at left back.
Then after utd get bellerin back in.
I missed and loved the composure Holding brings to that defence. Fed up seeing Luiz and Sokratis getting game after game and Chambers getting left on the bench despite starting the season well. Emery has to stop playing his favourites and do what's best for the team. I'll be pissed if there isn't a change in defence for the utd game.
Getting beat up there all the time is no fun.

I agree. Chambers was terrible in central defence at Fulham, although he did well enough in midfield to win the player of the season award for a dreadful team. But central defence? No thanks.

I wouldn’t be so dismissive. That Fulham team had an absence of talent when they pushed him into midfield and he performed well againest Newcastle. One game does not a player make but I wouldn’t be averse to see him getting another chance. 24 years old is still young for a centre back.

Oi TG I won't respond to posts about Brexit because it is such a subjective issue. However I believe that Boris gave you and your remoaner cohorts an answer last night in the Commons.

UP YOURS SUNSHINE

Did you find that an impressive political performance eh ?

Please say yes

Do you still still believe nonsense like the EU trying to make whiskey a hazardous liquid and ban 3 pin plugs



Please post some more stuff like that you had the whole forum in stiches last time

Not really. Frustration at work + being pissed
about Arsenal might have made me over elabourate.

Whether genuine or no, thanks for asking.

Agreed, it is too easy to label our wins as the opponents being bad and our defeats as Arsenal being rubbish. There are bits in between

How I travel. Taking a little side vacay in The Philippines.

What Sean Bean thinks of Tottenham and Chelsea....

“Elinor agreed to it all, for she did not think he deserved the compliment of rational opposition.”

Elinor is still holding her tongue.

https://www.givemesport.com/1508197-ars ... -dream-job

Arsene Wenger says being Manchester United manager would be a 'dream' job

He can just f#%^ right off. The same problems he identifies with Utd are the ones he left us with. Marvellous how he kept telling us all how he was always wanted by all these great clubs but when he is available they are not even linked with him.

Just my guess, I can see Aubameyang and Luiz being on the short list.

https://talksport.com/football/607031/a ... ain-emery/

DEMOCRATIC Arsenal players have VOTED for their preferred club captain after being asked to do so by Unai Emery

Yeah, yeah, its only 6 games in but no one will be surprised if Liverpool wins the title. Heck, I'm scared of them going unbeaten in the league.

They are 'back on their perch' compared to Man Utd.

Aubameyang will be the Captain