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Post #324441  Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:03 am 
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Nuno is a client of super-agent Jorge Mendes, as are a number of the Wolves team. The manager and players were parachuted in from Portugal by the new Chinese owners, pretty much as a job lot, in an effort to win promotion. Mendes was at the centre of the transformation that resulted in a successful return to the PL in 2018.

Mendes is apparently a close associate of Sanllehi and recently brokered the deal for Pépé, so there’s obviously some basis for the rumours.

However, Wolves under Nuno are a team who get by typically with a low percentage of possession. They defend in depth and rely on vigorous pressing. They are a defensive counter-attacking team and they do it very well. Arsenal have been the very opposite for a generation so if Nuno is appointed and pursues the same strategy, it would represent a fundamental change of style. At Arsenal, he wouldn't have the players for such tactics so he'd need several transfer windows. He certainly wouldn’t have the support from the fanbase who have grown up on something very different.

I really can't see it happening.


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Post #324442  Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:58 pm 
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Arsenal sack Emery...only care what happens afyer this


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Arsenal sack Emery...only care what happens after this


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Post #324444  Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:58 pm 
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Nuno is a client of super-agent Jorge Mendes, as are a number of the Wolves team. The manager and players were parachuted in from Portugal by the new Chinese owners, pretty much as a job lot, in an effort to win promotion. Mendes was at the centre of the transformation that resulted in a successful return to the PL in 2018.

Mendes is apparently a close associate of Sanllehi and recently brokered the deal for Pépé, so there’s obviously some basis for the rumours.

However, Wolves under Nuno are a team who get by typically with a low percentage of possession. They defend in depth and rely on vigorous pressing. They are a defensive counter-attacking team and they do it very well. Arsenal have been the very opposite for a generation so if Nuno is appointed and pursues the same strategy, it would represent a fundamental change of style. At Arsenal, he wouldn't have the players for such tactics so he'd need several transfer windows. He certainly wouldn’t have the support from the fanbase who have grown up on something very different.

I really can't see it happening.


I can. Absolutely

I wouldn’t trust the guys running the club at all. It’s a testament that the board have even *%^@** up the sacking of Emery as you now have this very visible public charade taking place when he should have gone by now.

A swift decisive decision being made by the arsenal board to move quickly? . Ha ! Yeah right! I’ll believe it when I see it.

I have zero faith in them selecting the right character and something like Mendes feeding Raul the line of nuno being a great choice wouldn’t surprise me one iota. Being Portuguese is a tick in the box for edu too probably.

Also the stories coming out of the club are bizarre, O’Leary on the board ? The chairman wanting to resign. It sounds like people at Arsenal may suspect Raul Sanellhi has too much power. Somethings going on.

Right now I can’t see us getting an Allegri or a Pochettino (who makes most sense) and would rather we took a complete Hail Mary on an ex player than someone with a mediocre record.


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Post #324445  Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:13 pm 
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I think it’s not that Emery hasn’t adapted he’s just not that good full stop. He just doesn’t know what he’s doing.

At PSG his moaning after about Neymar etc was ridiculous and despite having a ton more money he lost a title to Monaco’s kids.

At Spartak the chairman fired him in the dressing room in front of his own players.

The height of his achievements as a manager was a Europa league with Seville. How we got the PSG job I have no idea and He shouldn’t be anywhere near a club like arsenal


Well then perhaps you should inform yourself a little bit before posting. Emery is a very good coach with a great track record. He has been successful at every club bar Spartak. For whatever reasons it isn't working out with us.

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Post #324446  Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:21 pm 
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I think it’s not that Emery hasn’t adapted he’s just not that good full stop. He just doesn’t know what he’s doing.

At PSG his moaning after about Neymar etc was ridiculous and despite having a ton more money he lost a title to Monaco’s kids.

At Spartak the chairman fired him in the dressing room in front of his own players.

The height of his achievements as a manager was a Europa league with Seville. How we got the PSG job I have no idea and He shouldn’t be anywhere near a club like arsenal


Well then perhaps you should inform yourself a little bit before posting. Emery is a very good coach with a great track record. He has been successful at every club bar Spartak.


Nah he’s pants, completely pants.

His team selection at the weekend has me doubting his sanity and if the barometer of success is bagging an odd Europa league then maybe we should have appointed Roy Hodgson because he got Fulham to a final with Bobby Zamora up front.

As Darron rightly said months back, he’s a bum as we got this one wrong. (Especially me)


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Gunfire wrote:
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I think it’s not that Emery hasn’t adapted he’s just not that good full stop. He just doesn’t know what he’s doing.

At PSG his moaning after about Neymar etc was ridiculous and despite having a ton more money he lost a title to Monaco’s kids.

At Spartak the chairman fired him in the dressing room in front of his own players.

The height of his achievements as a manager was a Europa league with Seville. How we got the PSG job I have no idea and He shouldn’t be anywhere near a club like arsenal


Well then perhaps you should inform yourself a little bit before posting. Emery is a very good coach with a great track record. He has been successful at every club bar Spartak. For whatever reasons it isn't working out with us.

Winning the Europa three times on the trot is an impressive achievement, and that's obviously a big reason why he got the PSG job. I would disagree that he was successful in France, and Spartak and of course Arsenal have been abject failures. Anyway, whatever his past he is obviously not the man for us and the sooner he collects his P45 the better.


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Winning the Europa three times on the trot is an impressive achievement, and that's obviously a big reason why he got the PSG job. I would disagree that he was successful in France, and Spartak and of course Arsenal have been abject failures. Anyway, whatever his past he is obviously not the man for us and the sooner he collects his P45 the better.


His achievements at all clubs bar Spartak and to a lesser extent PSG are impressive. He seems to have undermined at PSG by circus nature of the club and the fact Neymar had the owners ear. The guy has management talent only a fool would say otherwise. Why it's not working here I don't know. Maybe it is the language?

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Post #324449  Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:44 pm 
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Wow, this is pretty amazing for the New York Times, arguably the newspaper with the highest pedigree in America doing an article on Arsenal Fan TV. You probably won't be able to read it due to the NYT may charge for it but the fact there is an article in the first place is kinda remarkable.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/28/spor ... an-tv.html

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Gunfire wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Winning the Europa three times on the trot is an impressive achievement, and that's obviously a big reason why he got the PSG job. I would disagree that he was successful in France, and Spartak and of course Arsenal have been abject failures. Anyway, whatever his past he is obviously not the man for us and the sooner he collects his P45 the better.


His achievements at all clubs bar Spartak and to a lesser extent PSG are impressive. He seems to have undermined at PSG by circus nature of the club and the fact Neymar had the owners ear. The guy has management talent only a fool would say otherwise. Why it's not working here I don't know. Maybe it is the language?

It's far too easy to blame Neymar because he comes across as an unlikeable character. He is one hell of a footballer though and was easily PSG's best player when Emery had his issues with him. Emery also had problems with Cavani, Ben Arfa and DiMaria.

I think it's fair to say that Emery has been terrible for us. Sometimes things don't work out. It is really on him though. Tactics, player management and making us far far less than the sum of our parts.

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Post #324451  Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:14 pm 
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kiwipete wrote:


Sorting out our log jam of mediocrity is going to take a super human effort .

I think you exaggerate how much work it would take to fix things. I don't agree with people who attribute this to some deep malaise at the club that would take years to correct.


I'm not exaggerating anything . I didn't say it would take years .

All it would take is someone with a clear vision , a decent set of cojones and it could be sorted very quickly .

Özil , Kolasinac , Luiz , Sokratis , Xhaka , Torreira .... Adios amigos ...... buy a few , a couple of loanees ,change our style of play . VOILA .


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If Dein, Fiszman, hill -wood and Ken Friar were still running the club I just don’t believe they would have picked someone like Emery to replace Arsene.

Deins running an extensive process for something like that to acquire a manager of proven pedigree. We had years to think about it. At the time looking back it seemed Vieira, Emery or Arteta were the only choices. That’s just a poverty of options.

Unfortunately the reality is that the people running the club these days are worse than the ones previously. It just sucks


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And of course here we are

5 defenders (7 defensive minded players ) for a home match against Frankfurt who won’t have any support.

Beating Real Madrid seems a century ago

Oh and no Pépé. Why would we ? :14laughter:


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Always good to see Man Utd lose.

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Post #324455  Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:57 pm 
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If you’re going to play Xhaka probably best done in an empty stadium.

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TOP GUN wrote:
And of course here we are

5 defenders (7 defensive minded players ) for a home match against Frankfurt who won’t have any support.

Beating Real Madrid seems a century ago

Oh and no Pépé. Why would we ? :14laughter:

Maybe Chambers or Luiz is playing in midfield.... I'm really clutching at straws here because that's a crazy line-up if it's 5 at the back and a 2 man midfield, one of whom is Xhaka.

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Post #324457  Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:24 pm 
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Sofiane Boufal: Southampton midfielder injures toe running into kitchen table - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50592211p

We should definitely break the bank for Kitchen Table, a better tackle than any of our lot managed on a Saints midfielder


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Post #324458  Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:28 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
And of course here we are

5 defenders (7 defensive minded players ) for a home match against Frankfurt who won’t have any support.

Beating Real Madrid seems a century ago

Oh and no Pépé. Why would we ? :14laughter:

Another game another formation. With Saka, martinelli and Aubameyang that looks like a front 3. So either a 5-2-3 or 3-4-3 formation.

Pépé hasn’t started for ages.

Seems like Emery is just trying anything without a plan in any kind of attempt to get a result and performance


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dec wrote:
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And of course here we are

5 defenders (7 defensive minded players ) for a home match against Frankfurt who won’t have any support.

Beating Real Madrid seems a century ago

Oh and no Pépé. Why would we ? :14laughter:

Maybe Chambers or Luiz is playing in midfield.... I'm really clutching at straws here because that's a crazy line-up if it's 5 at the back and a 2 man midfield, one of whom is Xhaka.



Greetings Dec .... Initially I thought the same but thinking on it might not be too bad .

We don't pass well at the best of times when we put out a normal formation so maybe the plan is .......

overload the defence and just spray long balls to Aubameyang , Saka , Martinelli and Willock ...

Completely by passing the midfield .

Chambers and Xhaka can find a team mate over 90 minutes surely .

How visionary , Unai is a genius .

Last time I looked Wolves were 3 -1 up away ... Yes , get Nuno in at Arsenal .... now it's 3 - 3

...Nah we don't want that pillock :laughing7:


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dec wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
And of course here we are

5 defenders (7 defensive minded players ) for a home match against Frankfurt who won’t have any support.

Beating Real Madrid seems a century ago

Oh and no Pépé. Why would we ? :14laughter:

Maybe Chambers or Luiz is playing in midfield.... I'm really clutching at straws here because that's a crazy line-up if it's 5 at the back and a 2 man midfield, one of whom is Xhaka.


Willock to be the scapegoat and pulled at halftime,

Well let’s face it he can’t hook Xhaka now !


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Ash wrote:
Sofiane Boufal: Southampton midfielder injures toe running into kitchen table - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50592211p

We should definitely break the bank for Kitchen Table, a better tackle than any of our lot managed on a Saints midfielder

:53big-emoticons:


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bromley gooner wrote:
Ash wrote:
Sofiane Boufal: Southampton midfielder injures toe running into kitchen table - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50592211p

We should definitely break the bank for Kitchen Table, a better tackle than any of our lot managed on a Saints midfielder

:53big-emoticons:

:laughing7: Indeed ...... was Kitchen Table booked ...?

Show some ambition we buy a dining table , cover more area


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The stadium looks empty

Just bizarre


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Doesn’t look like more than 10,000 in the stadium. I’m surprised the awful attendances don’t get more coverage in the media.

There is the obvious laughing when Arsenal announce the attendance at 60,000 when it’s clearly more like 45,000 but rarely does it go beyond that laugh in the media

I remember arsenal getting 40,000 for the youth cup final in Wilshere’s time, and regularly filled out the stadium for early cup rounds when we played kids. Back then the fans had hope and belief and the potential and football was all still exciting. More and more people giving up on it.

I don’t get to go to games, I’d find it hard to justify the cost based on what is served up nowadays


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Another one of Emery's hotch potch teams..............


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4 at the back with Luiz as a holding mid. He’s far more likely to sit in the right position than any other CM we have.....although it’s still a sticking plaster move to put him there


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A Luiz Xhaka midfield axis. Classic Emery

He’d play 11 defenders if he could get away with it.

Those poor fans deserve some entertainment, could have played Özil and Pépé and at least had some fun.

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Post #324468  Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:26 pm 
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The stadium looks empty

Just bizarre


Last europa game was sold out. Particular circumstances here. No tickets were sold - to anyone.

It’s not about Emery on this occasion.


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This is not a brand of football that attracts people to stadiums though.

An exercise in not changing the channel


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How to Make Stuffed Baked Marrow

Marrow might seem like a bland vegetable on its own, but its mild flavor works well with a variety of seasonings. For a spicy Spanish version, fill marrow halves with a chorizo, tomato, garlic, and paprika mixture. If you'd like a vegetarian marrow, slice the marrow into rings and stuff them with a cheddar and kidney bean filling. You can also make Mediterranean inspired marrow by filling halves with ground beef, feta, sundried tomatoes, and breadcrumbs. Bake your marrow halves or rings until they're tender and the filling is bubbly.


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Preheat the oven to 395 °F (202 °C) and cut 1 marrow in half lengthwise. Rinse 1 marrow with water and put it on the cutting board. Use a sharp knife to cut it in half lengthwise.

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Scoop out the centers and place the halves in a pan. Use a spoon to scoop out the seeds from both marrow halves. Once you've scraped out the seeds, put the marrow halves cut-side up in a large roasting pan.
Discard the seeds since they're watery

Sauté the onion for 10 minutes over low heat. Pour 1 tablespoon (15 ml) of olive oil into a saucepan and turn the burner to low. When the oil shimmers, stir in 1 diced onion and cook it until it softens.
Stir the onion occasionally to prevent it from sticking to the bottom of the pan.

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Stir in the garlic, chorizo, spices, and herbs and cook it for 2 minutes. Add 2 crushed garlic cloves, 1⁄4 pound (110 g) of chopped chorizo, 1 teaspoon (2 g) of smoked paprika, 1/2 teaspoon (1 g) of cayenne pepper, 1/2 teaspoon (1 g) of dried oregano, and 1/2 teaspoon(1 g) of dried thyme. Stir and cook the mixture for 2 minutes.
The chorizo should brown and the garlic will become fragrant once it's cooked.

Scatter breadcrumbs and manchego over and bake it for 10 minutes. Remove the marrow from the oven and take the foil off the top. Sprinkle 1 2/3 cup (85 g) of fresh breadcrumbs and 1 cup (113 g) of grated manchego over the marrow tops. Put the pan back in the oven and bake the marrow for 10 more minutes.
The breadcrumbs should become golden brown.
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Serve the Spanish stuffed marrow. Turn off the oven and remove the marrow. Transfer the halves to a platter and serve them immediately. Consider serving the marrow with rice or crusty bread.
Refrigerate the leftover marrow in an airtight container for up to 3 to 5 days.


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Willocks tenacity the only thing to see so far.


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I’d rather just bin our Spanish marrow.

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TOP GUN wrote:
Willocks tenacity the only thing to see so far.

.....and Martinelli. He makes things happen.


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Post #324474  Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:52 pm 
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1-0 HT Aubameyang

Maybe an unpopular opinion but Mustafi is better than Sokratis. Both have plenty of mistakes in them mind!


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Just give us 40 minutes of Pépé Emery.

Just want to see some trickey and pace.


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bubblechris wrote:
Another one of Emery's hotch potch teams..............


kiwipete wrote:
Hmmm....... that may well be but they are coping quite easily with the opposition .

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Another one of Emery's hotch potch teams..............



Hmmm....... that may well be but they coping quite easily with the opposition .

Pretty dull game ; I'm thinking tidying up the workshop might be more fun .


Please Santa can I have a workshop for Christmas :20hospitals:


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All going as per usual. concede - they look better than us at the moment although Chambers miss really told us how good he is. Still when people start leaving early there will no problem for them with transport home.

I don't know where rock bottom is but we may not be there yet.

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Hmnnn who shall I take off. Someone who hasn’t done anything yet ? , someone who rarely contributes

Martinelli that’s it, I’ll take off Martinelli


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Gaz from Oz wrote:

I don't know where rock bottom is but we may not be there yet.


There you go Oz.

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