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Thank you Levy - in one go you have reminded us all of the lack of class at Tottenham, but more importantly have ensured that turd Mourinho will not be deposited in our part of North London.

As for Poch, yes it would be very droll to have him at Arsenal, but let the head rule the heart so that we can find an experienced manager who has won some big trophies.

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Maureen at Spurs - don't mind admitting it's got me a little worried. Please God it doesn't go well, because if it does we're in for a lot of pain.
He'll very likely win them a trophy ,and then it will end in tears, as it often does with him.
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Post #332323  Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:23 pm 
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Maureen at Spurs - don't mind admitting it's got me a little worried. Please God it doesn't go well, because if it does we're in for a lot of pain.
He'll very likely win them a trophy ,and then it will end in tears, as it often does with him.
As Martial wrote, a skunk must be itself.

I have to say that I was just relieved that he would not be coming to us.

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Thank you Levy - in one go you have reminded us all of the lack of class at Tottenham, but more importantly have ensured that turd Mourinho will not be deposited in our part of North London.

As for Poch, yes it would be very droll to have him at Arsenal, but let the head rule the heart so that we can find an experienced manager who has won some big trophies.


What "experienced manager who has won some big trophies" would come to a club that has such limited ambition?.

I'd take Eddie Howe right now because if people think we're getting the likes of Allegri, Nagelsmann or Ten Haag then I think they are in lala land.

Anyway, Kroenke OUT.

What else is there to add?.

Boring, boring Arsenal.

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The Arsenal is only attractive to a manager who has ambitions of adding a top 6 club to his CV. Agree that Allegri and company wouldn't come to us unless their money is running low and need a stop gap job.

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The Arsenal is only attractive to a manager who has ambitions of adding a top 6 club to his CV.

Ya know, maybe I could do it then ?

I would love to add a top 6 club to my CV and I have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA how to run an English football team.

Surely I'd be a shoe-in for the job, or perhaps I'm over qualified ?


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Get em out. A microcosm of Brexit thinking


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Thank you Levy - in one go you have reminded us all of the lack of class at Tottenham, but more importantly have ensured that turd Mourinho will not be deposited in our part of North London.

As for Poch, yes it would be very droll to have him at Arsenal, but let the head rule the heart so that we can find an experienced manager who has won some big trophies.

I agree completely on Mourinho.

However, I think Poch would be ideal for Arsenal. The fact that he hasn't actually won anything with Spurs really doesn't matter. He knows the PL and he knows how to get a team to play effective and attractive football. He'd be very hungry to prove the lad from the lane wrong. He's also not an a****** which still means something!

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Finally, will get to see Arsenal play again. Will Emery change it into a more exciting play? Please make some changes because it is getting so boring with the slow-mo and toothless attacking plays. You have had 2 weeks to reflect, review the opposition, review the strengths of your players, and finally, to suss out any stupidity of your tactical thinking (hint: playing out of our own area).

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I think Mourinho will be successful for Spurs, from now till end of season. He is just that type of manager who is able to make things happen. He will become the disruptive manager again if Spurs does not give him his toys for the following season.

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Wilts-Gooner wrote:
old man of hoy wrote:
Thank you Levy - in one go you have reminded us all of the lack of class at Tottenham, but more importantly have ensured that turd Mourinho will not be deposited in our part of North London.

As for Poch, yes it would be very droll to have him at Arsenal, but let the head rule the heart so that we can find an experienced manager who has won some big trophies.


What "experienced manager who has won some big trophies" would come to a club that has such limited ambition?.

I'd take Eddie Howe right now because if people think we're getting the likes of Allegri, Nagelsmann or Ten Haag then I think they are in lala land.

Anyway, Kroenke OUT.

What else is there to add?.

Boring, boring Arsenal.
You might just be surprised how attractive a club Arsenal are to football people. Fans tend to accentuate the negative, but I would never assume football managers would be in line with that thinking. When Emery leaves there will be quite a long queue of experienced men willing to take over. In many respects it will be easier to come in after Dick than it was for Dick having to fill Arsene's shoes.

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old man of hoy wrote:
Thank you Levy - in one go you have reminded us all of the lack of class at Tottenham, but more importantly have ensured that turd Mourinho will not be deposited in our part of North London.

As for Poch, yes it would be very droll to have him at Arsenal, but let the head rule the heart so that we can find an experienced manager who has won some big trophies.

I agree completely on Mourinho.

However, I think Poch would be ideal for Arsenal. The fact that he hasn't actually won anything with Spurs really doesn't matter. He knows the PL and he knows how to get a team to play effective and attractive football. He'd be very hungry to prove the lad from the lane wrong. He's also not an a****** which still means something!
Yes, from what we know of him I do like Poch as a man, and judging by the comments made by some of his former players, he clearly has their respect. However, Spurs to Arsenal would be a massive challenge for him. The fans would put him on an even shorter rope than Dick, so he would have to deliver the goods quickly, or planes would be flying.

Ancelotti for me, and a few of his Napoli guys.

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:laughing7: while the BBC , CNN , NSBC , CBS , Huffington Post clearly are ...?

BBC isn’t bad and CNN is quite good

Fox is a cartoon for thick people. Watch the loudest voice with Russell Crowe and you’ll see the difference

There is a difference between having a strong perspective (Rachel Maddow for example) and doing what the Republicans and Fox are doing which is ignoring anything that doesn't fit their narrative or calling it fake news.

Yesterday was a case in point. During the hearing Devin Nunes was shouting that CNN was fake news and had put up a headline that was misrepresenting what was happening. If you look at what CNN is saying you find this is not the case at all. There is a diversity of views about how damning Sondland's testimony was.

The fake news narrative and the lazy denigration of NYT, WsPo, CNN, al-Jazeera, etc. is completely irresponsible.

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Ancelotti for me, and a few of his Napoli guys.


Heard some interesting gossip this morning about the process that lead to Mourinho getting the job. Apparently he contacted Levy around three weeks ago, and pretty much followed up daily, pitching a new philosophy on how the game should be played. He also had to make assurances that he would not revert to type with regard to his more negative brand of football.

Seems he wasn’t first choice as they went after Rogers, but seems he refused to take their calls. Howe and Ancelotti were also on the list but it was felt Howe would need 2 or 3 seasons to make things happen. Ancelotti was beaten to the punch by Mourinho, Levy is desperate for a trophy, any trophy, and the Portugeezer seemed the sure thing.

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Ancelotti for me, and a few of his Napoli guys.


Heard some interesting gossip this morning about the process that lead to Mourinho getting the job. Apparently he contacted Levy around three weeks ago, and pretty much followed up daily, pitching a new philosophy on how the game should be played. He also had to make assurances that he would not revert to type with regard to his more negative brand of football.

Seems he wasn’t first choice as they went after Rogers, but seems he refused to take their calls. Howe and Ancelotti were also on the list but it was felt Howe would need 2 or 3 seasons to make things happen. Ancelotti was beaten to the punch by Mourinho, Levy is desperate for a trophy, any trophy, and the Portugeezer seemed the sure thing.
Yes, with Mourinho in charge you have to fancy Spurs in the cups. He is very good at focusing his team on ties. Get the right draw and you can go a long way in the ECL. Seems like we often got Barca or Bayern - avoid them and you can go all the way.

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Parkerknoll Gooner wrote:

Heard some interesting gossip this morning about the process that lead to Mourinho getting the job. Apparently he contacted Levy around three weeks ago, and pretty much followed up daily, pitching a new philosophy on how the game should be played. He also had to make assurances that he would not revert to type with regard to his more negative brand of football.

Seems he wasn’t first choice as they went after Rogers, but seems he refused to take their calls. Howe and Ancelotti were also on the list but it was felt Howe would need 2 or 3 seasons to make things happen. Ancelotti was beaten to the punch by Mourinho, Levy is desperate for a trophy, any trophy, and the Portugeezer seemed the sure thing.


A leopard does not change its spots. If Jose fails to land a trophy the fingers will be pointed at Levy.

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You might just be surprised how attractive a club Arsenal are to football people. Fans tend to accentuate the negative, but I would never assume football managers would be in line with that thinking. When Emery leaves there will be quite a long queue of experienced men willing to take over. In many respects it will be easier to come in after Dick than it was for Dick having to fill Arsene's shoes.


So you think we'll get the likes of Allegri, Ten Haag or Nagelsmann?, even they haven't really won 'big' trophies, we will be in the Europa again next season and given we blew a load of future transfer money this summer I can't see the appeal when it is clear the owner wont budge (in any respect), I expect us to be outspent by the majority of top 10 clubs in the league over the next few transfer windows.

No top manager is going to be interested in our tiresome and dreary project, we just have a negative owner. Anyway I've repeated myself enough here, sabatical time from Arsenal for me, might get semi interested again if Emery goes, then again might not, a bit like Kroenke I am just totally apathetic now, exactly what KSE deserve - an empty stadium next hopefully.

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Seems he wasn’t first choice as they went after Rogers, but seems he refused to take their calls. Howe and Ancelotti were also on the list but it was felt Howe would need 2 or 3 seasons to make things happen. Ancelotti was beaten to the punch by Mourinho, Levy is desperate for a trophy, any trophy, and the Portugeezer seemed the sure thing.

Any news on why Rodgers wasn’t interested? Don’t suppose it was him expecting to take over at the other North London club (obviously excluding Barnet)?

I can understand people’s concerns at Mourinho winning a trophy in his first year or two at our near neighbours (for those not up on North London geography, Tottenham is a closer place than Barnet). It’s what Mourinho does in his first couple of years. I can thus promise I’ll be even more pleased when Tottenham lose cup games, especially knock out ties, over the next year or two.


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So you think we'll get the likes of Allegri, Ten Haag or Nagelsmann?, even they haven't really won 'big' trophies, we will be in the Europa again next season and given we blew a load of future transfer money this summer I can't see the appeal when it is clear the owner wont budge (in any respect), I expect us to be outspent by the majority of top 10 clubs in the league over the next few transfer windows.

No top manager is going to be interested in our tiresome and dreary project, we just have a negative owner. Anyway I've repeated myself enough here, sabatical time from Arsenal for me, might get semi interested again if Emery goes, then again might not, a bit like Kroenke I am just totally apathetic now, exactly what KSE deserve - an empty stadium next hopefully.

Hi Wilts. Look, I basically think the same of Kroenke as you and unlike some other critics of the KSE ownership regime, I’m far more suspicious of Josh than those who hope things will change radically when Stan pegs it. What’s the evidence? He goes to more games than Stan, I realise that. Sorry but he needs to do a lot more than that to convince me. His comments are very supportive of his father’s ownership regime. Sure, I wouldn’t expect him to say anything else. But I wouldn’t mind a comment or two to cling to at least some hope things could change.

However, I think Arsenal would still be able to get fine managers. Allegri is unemployed, Ten Haag is at Ajax and Nagelsmann is at Leipzig. I reckon all three at this point in their careers would jump at the chance of joining Arsenal, as would Mourinho have done.


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“My objective is going to be his comeback, to help us and convince every supporter of his commitment to us and [that] his performances will be better, and they will be proud of him in the short or long future with us,” Emery said.

Words, words, words ....... too many times, but yet you get the same old Xhaka

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There is a difference between having a strong perspective (Rachel Maddow for example) and doing what the Republicans and Fox are doing which is ignoring anything that doesn't fit their narrative or calling it fake news.

Yesterday was a case in point. During the hearing Devin Nunes was shouting that CNN was fake news and had put up a headline that was misrepresenting what was happening. If you look at what CNN is saying you find this is not the case at all. There is a diversity of views about how damning Sondland's testimony was.

The fake news narrative and the lazy denigration of NYT, WsPo, CNN, al-Jazeera, etc. is completely irresponsible.


sign yourself in voluntarily they'll go easier with the treatment ..... Rachel Maddow " strong perspective " :laughing7: :laughing7: Laura Ingraham has five times the intelligence ...

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:laughing7: :laughing7: without a doubt the most stupid / biased news network on the planet ....



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:laughing7: Strangely ..... coming from a moron like yourself I find that quite reassuring .


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Maureen at Spurs - don't mind admitting it's got me a little worried. Please God it doesn't go well, because if it does we're in for a lot of pain.


Don't worry Brom ... here's how it will pan out .

Little honeymoon period ; results will pick up a new era will be hailed at Totting .....then a couple of months down the track ; after a loss at Newcastle , Norwich whatever Jose will blame Kane and Ali for not pulling their weight , asking the media how they ever played for England .... and things will turn to custard .

Meanwhile in the happier half of North London we'll still have Unai at the reins f**** things up royally .


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Maureen at Spurs - don't mind admitting it's got me a little worried. Please God it doesn't go well, because if it does we're in for a lot of pain.


Don't worry Brom ... here's how it will pan out .

Little honeymoon period ; results will pick up a new era will be hailed at Totting .....then a couple of months down the track ; after a loss at Newcastle , Norwich whatever Jose will blame Kane and Ali for not pulling their weight , asking the media how they ever played for England .... and things will turn to custard .

Meanwhile in the happier half of North London we'll still have Unai at the reins f**** things up royally .

Let's hope you're right about Jose and wrong about Unai, Kiwi. I however remain worried as I think it's likely we'll stumble along going nowhere with Emery, and have a nasty feeling that a rested and reflective Mourinho is going to come back with some of his old vigour.


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I'll be very surprised if we get anything other than the usual dross tomorrow. If we fail to beat Soton, Emery shouldn't leave the ground as Arsenal manager.

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Don't worry Brom ... here's how it will pan out .

Little honeymoon period ; results will pick up a new era will be hailed at Totting .....then a couple of months down the track ; after a loss at Newcastle , Norwich whatever Jose will blame Kane and Ali for not pulling their weight , asking the media how they ever played for England .... and things will turn to custard .

Meanwhile in the happier half of North London we'll still have Unai at the reins f**** things up royally .

Let's hope you're right about Jose and wrong about Unai, Kiwi. I however remain worried as I think it's likely we'll stumble along going nowhere with Emery, and have a nasty feeling that a rested and reflective Mourinho is going to come back with some of his old vigour.

I also think he is working with a more talented squad than he had at Utd.

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I'll be very surprised if we get anything other than the usual dross tomorrow. If we fail to beat Soton, Emery shouldn't leave the ground as Arsenal manager.

Leno, Bellerin, Tierney, Sokratis, Luiz, Torriera, Guendouzi, Özil, Pépé, Lacazette, Aubamayang

I would still have lots of questions over the balance of the midfield and attack, and think there are upgrades required in central defence and midfield but that is probably the 11 most talented players available. They have to find a way to win against Southampton at home.

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Let's hope you're right about Jose and wrong about Unai, Kiwi. I however remain worried as I think it's likely we'll stumble along going nowhere with Emery, and have a nasty feeling that a rested and reflective Mourinho is going to come back with some of his old vigour.

I also think he is working with a more talented squad than he had at Utd.


Not sure about that Darren. There are major structural problems with that Totts' squad - not the least being that three of their first choice back four are running down their contracts, as is their major creative talent.


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Included in the new labour manifesto. They are just clueless aren’t they.
Millions of hardworking Britons needs their help and they seem intent on virtue signalling quests for justice that help nobody.


I am gonna vote after all. Likely Green or less likely Lib Dem’s.


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Oddly, though we're playing like drains and levels of discontent are sky high again, all our recent fixtures have sold out well in advance of the match day, including - amazingly - the Europa Cup games.


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There is a difference between having a strong perspective (Rachel Maddow for example) and doing what the Republicans and Fox are doing which is ignoring anything that doesn't fit their narrative or calling it fake news.

Yesterday was a case in point. During the hearing Devin Nunes was shouting that CNN was fake news and had put up a headline that was misrepresenting what was happening. If you look at what CNN is saying you find this is not the case at all. There is a diversity of views about how damning Sondland's testimony was.

The fake news narrative and the lazy denigration of NYT, WsPo, CNN, al-Jazeera, etc. is completely irresponsible.


sign yourself in voluntarily they'll go easier with the treatment ..... Rachel Maddow " strong perspective " :laughing7: :laughing7: Laura Ingraham has five times the intelligence ...

"lazy denigration " ...... get your facts right ..I like Al Jazeera

I was referring to the general tendency to describe those outlets as fake news. I know you like Al Jazeera.

Getting back to the point: which reasonably reputable outlet manages to put a positive spin on Putin?

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Included in the new labour manifesto. They are just clueless aren’t they.
Millions of hardworking Britons needs their help and they seem intent on virtue signalling quests for justice that help nobody.


I am gonna vote after all. Likely Green or less likely Lib Dem’s.

But how much harm could such an exercise do? Also, it is not mere virtue signalling. Diplomatic relations with African countries for example are pretty important to British interests this sort of things does go down well.

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Decaf wrote:
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Included in the new labour manifesto. They are just clueless aren’t they.
Millions of hardworking Britons needs their help and they seem intent on virtue signalling quests for justice that help nobody.


I am gonna vote after all. Likely Green or less likely Lib Dem’s.

But how much harm could such an exercise do? Also, it is not mere virtue signalling. Diplomatic relations with African countries for example are pretty important to British interests this sort of things does go down well.


How is it helping people really. Time has to move on without dwelling on stuff. Do you think this is a vote winner ? I think it makes them look a little looney.

Half the UK earns less than 28k a year, pretty much nothing. Is this what they want to hear.

I want to see my government run an effective economy, grow jobs and business and protect its citizens. How is stuff like this helping.

It’s just like labour saying they are pushing for unilateral nuclear disarmament. Great idea. Good luck with that guys now off you go and speak to Putin and see how far you get.

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f**** things up royally .
That phrase has a bit more meaning these days! Anyway, play this nice and loud.
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Oddly, though we're playing like drains and levels of discontent are sky high again, all our recent fixtures have sold out well in advance of the match day, including - amazingly - the Europa Cup games.

DHD I'm going to the Europa match next Thursday. It think the attraction of those fixtures is seeing Martinelli in action.


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Oddly, though we're playing like drains and levels of discontent are sky high again, all our recent fixtures have sold out well in advance of the match day, including - amazingly - the Europa Cup games.

DHD I'm going to the Europa match next Thursday. It think the attraction of those fixtures is seeing Martinelli in action.

It’s simply more fun. We play expansive football in those games with more freedom and it’s refreshing to watch young players doing their best.


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I'll be very surprised if we get anything other than the usual dross tomorrow. If we fail to beat Soton, Emery shouldn't leave the ground as Arsenal manager.

Darren he shouldn't leave the ground as Arsenal manager even if we win. 3 points at home against the team in 19th place, if it happens? Seriously how can Raul/Edu not see that Emery is not up to it. Whatever you think of Levy's decision to tank Poch at least he MADE the decision.


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Post #332358  Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:19 am 
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DHD I'm going to the Europa match next Thursday. It think the attraction of those fixtures is seeing Martinelli in action.

It’s simply more fun. We play expansive football in those games with more freedom and it’s refreshing to watch young players doing their best.


Agree about Martinelli, tom - and on the point of playing more attractive football, TG.

It's going to be a bit odd on Thursday. No tickets have been sold to the Germans for some offence they've committed, so the away section will be empty. However as we all know, they're a resourceful lot so there'll be no sales to Red members either. Anyone identified as a Frankfurt supporter will be denied entry or ejected and any Arser who sells tickets to them will have their membership cancelled.

Could be lively if they score.


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Post #332359  Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:37 am 
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I also think he is working with a more talented squad than he had at Utd.


Not sure about that Darren. There are major structural problems with that Totts' squad - not the least being that three of their first choice back four are running down their contracts, as is their major creative talent.


Apparently part of his sales pitch to Levy was that he's been working on a new system of play with the French crowd for a number of months, Levy has bought into it. The 'structural problems' at Totts is the contract they gave to Kane, seems a lot of noses were put out of joint that they bust the wage cap for Kane and nobody else, hence the exodus.

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Post #332360  Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:50 am 
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DHD wrote:

Not sure about that Darren. There are major structural problems with that Totts' squad - not the least being that three of their first choice back four are running down their contracts, as is their major creative talent.


Apparently part of his sales pitch to Levy was that he's been working on a new system of play with the French crowd for a number of months, Levy has bought into it. The 'structural problems' at Totts is the contract they gave to Kane, seems a lot of noses were put out of joint that they bust the wage cap for Kane and nobody else, hence the exodus.


There have certainly been rumours about Kane getting a massive pay hike that's created an enormous disparity between his contract and everyone else's. They've always been low payers and clearly, they're not prepared to raise the rest of the squad's salaries, hence the exodus. I can't see them resolving the impasse by throwing money at the problem - just not what they do.

What do you mean by "the French crowd" PG? Sounds intriguing.


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