Arsenal and England has always been a bit of a funny one,

We haven’t had too many England stars if you think about it. There were no arsenal players in the 66 squad and only David Seaman in the Italia 90 squad when he had just literally signed and even he got sent home with a broken finger or something.

Then that nutter Hoddle took the captaincy from Big Tone after he led the side superbly at Euro 96 and gave it to Shearer because he thought striker captains get more penalties. Glen Hoddle is a fruitcake of the highest order

I thought Ian Wright was hugely under utilised and famously didn’t even go to the 92 European championships when it was absolutely crazy not to pick him because he was the hottest striker around. It would be like not picking Kane today for England but worse, just *%^@*** stupid.

Then the one that sticks in my mind was when I was attending a game at Wembley in the 80s when we were playing Italy and the home crowd booed Nigel Winterburn when he came off the bench.

*%^@ off england you never appreciated Arsenal

Actually that one has brought it all back.

Graham Taylor chose to pick ...

Nigel Clough purely because of his surname

A past it Gary Lineker

A hugely inexperienced Alan Shearer who was too young to play

An Alan Smith who was a fine player but slightly past his best

Instead of Ian Wright at Euro 92 who was the country’s top scorer and best striker by a mile.

The moral of the story ? A bad football manager is a bad football manager you can’t expect their decision making to get better.

Emery out!

Seems Martinez is liking Emery Out posts on Instagram. As if we needed any further proof he’s lost the dressing room.

https://twitter.com/afcstuff/status/1194965515757850625?s=21

Mal Meninga , Phil Gould , Freddie Fittler , Marcus Ambrose , Peter Beattie , Ritchie McCaw , Bill Beaument , Samantha Fox , Ronnie O ' Sullivan , Coln Meeney , Ron Paul , Vladmir Putin , Boy George , Mickey Mouse


...any of the above would be an improvement

Now that does put a new slant on peculiar ...... an Al Gore factor .... Mam Mia

Whether Emery has lost the dressing room or not Darren, I don’t think it’s what current players should be doing.

because she doesn't want to go to war with every other country on the planet or because she is a Russian asset

I agree something they shouldn't be doing but thought processes dont come into it .........that's the way of the world these days Bernard

Modern youngsters clutching their cell phones ... it's like a form of life support

Clicking furiously Twitter , Twatter , Facebook , Instagram , Linkedin whatever

You have to be seen to be sending or receiving text messages 24/ 7 to be part of the " in crowd ".

You’re right. The younger population are obsessed with their phones. I realised it first when one of my daughters went away with her boyfriend on their first holiday. They’d been away together for a week, maybe a fortnight, so when she got home my wife (her mother) and me expected her to enthusiastically tell us what type of time she had, what sorts of things she did (excluding the sex obviously), whether she enjoyed herself, how things were with Arsenal (she’s a committed fan) and so on.

But no, she ignored us. She was permanently on her bloody mobile. We asked her what she was doing and she said texting her boyfriend, who she’d just been in constant contact with for over a sodding week on holiday. Sums things up.

I agree wholeheartedly and long for the days before iPhones when we all had Nokia’s that were substantially thicker.

A mate of mine took his daughter who is 17 and her mate to Mexico for 2 weeks and said their phone usage was just preposterous. Sat around a Pool in a 5 star Mexican resorts with the scenery all around them and they are glued to their phones constantly.

Even at the dinner table they were snap chatting to mates back in the uk talking nonsense until he finally caved and told them to cut it out.

It’s not texting anymore or even Facebook which most kids hate because their parents are on it, now it’s snapchat and Instagram they use en masse and if you have a daughter who is quite pretty or takes after her mother then it must be a nightmare because she’s bound to be posting all manner of pictures on Instagram of herself ala Kim Kardashian et all and getting all sorts of wrong attention.

I work in the technology sector and even I think social media should be regulated further and further age restrictions put in place. It’s a sewer

I heard Noel Gallagher on the radio nailing this when he said something like .... social culture used to be what music you listened to, your culture, dress sense and beliefs however these days all social culture is is what device you have be it an iPhone or Samsung, that’s all period.

Sorry I know this makes me sound like a grumpy old git but couldn’t help but agree. It will be all better though when we are out of the EU

*Man shakes fist at cloud.

Brom, Tommy Caton?

Didn't think of him Andy - not sure I remember him being capped though - might be wrong. He just preceded Adams and Keown at Arsenal didn't he? Remember him partnering O'Leary.

Actually thinking about it....not sure he was capped while with us....probably got all his caps with Man City

Ignore me...according to Wiki he didn't play for senior team. Blame it on my advancing years.

Tommy Caton died a few years ago. One of these days I must go through the players I’ve seen play for us who are no longer with us.

Oh well, here goes, in alphabetical order: Armstrong, Ball, Caton, Reyes, Roberts, Rocastle, Vaessen. There might be others but if there are I’ve either forgotten them or didn’t know of their passing.

...or one too many cheesesteak and soft pretzel.

And he was subbed at half-time with England losing 2-0.

No room in anyone's England XI for national-team stalwarts Jenkinson, Chambers, Gibbs and Jeffers?

Ok boomer

Arsenal goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez has denied liking an 'Unai Emery out' post as he claimed that his Instagram account was hacked.

https://futaa.com/article/197132/arsena ... y-out-post

Ahh ok - That explains it then. Nothing to see here folks, so you can move on.

Vomit.

Peculiar is multifaceted, Kiwi.

George Eastham, one of our finest midfielders.

16 teams qualified for the final stages of the '66 World Cup, split into 4 groups. There were just 352 players of whom only 8 played for clubs outside their respective countries.

Different times, eh?

Hob nobbing with Putin is not a good look.

Think I'm right he was in two World Cup squads without getting on the pitch, and that the only other English player to do that was Martin Keown.

Got to be honest I'm incredibly shocked that a teenager* would prefer to talk to her boyfriend than her parents.

Actually all the comments (not just here) about kids on the internet/whatever are exactly the same as what my Ma used to say to us when we were young about being on the phone to friends I'd seen that day.



* guessing her age here.

If Emery spent as much time analysing and preparing for opposition weaknesses as he does their strengths then I wonder if it would make a difference.

"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly disrespectful and impatient of restraint."

- Hesiod, 8th century BC

But I must admit to being angered by the number of times people are sitting at a green light oblivious because they're on their phone. Or swerving around the motorway lanes because they're texting. It is obvious and dangerous.

I work with children - oops, sorry, 'young people' - and can confirm to the forum that they are a massive pain in the arse.

It doesn't matter your age at all. What escapes most is that as long as you have a mobile smartphone, you're a targeted tracking device 24/7.

Always ready to help Gunfire ... if you look around you'll find CNN and the BBC aren't the only news sources in town ..broaden your horizons ....you might help shed the blinkers

Why not " hob nob " with Putin , the Russian economy is trundling along quite nicely and I'd venture Vladmir has more brains cells than Macron , Johnson , Merkel and Trump put together .

Glad you corrected yourself there Brom ...... calling them children wouldn't have done at all .

My daughter works at a Poly Tech ; last week after recieving some help from three women ; she sent them an encompassing e mail

Thank You Ladies blah blah.... one of them took exception to the word lady and reported her .

She got a dressing down , told she should have used some neutral gender term .

The fact that he probably dropped her off five minutes beforehand shouldn't enter into it ....?

I've a lot of sympathy for your mother you've had layabout stencilled across your forehead from birth .

Given you collect everything Arsenal .. you probably have these but I'd post them at my expense .

If you want them PM me an address .... several of the yearbooks the covers are a little tired but otherwise good condition

All Arsenal yearbooks 1973 /74 thru to 1986 /87 minus 82 /83
Programmes..... 81 / 82 Arse v Man U 79/80 v Ipswich 79/80 v Southampton 1989 v West Ham v Stoke 80 /81 v Liverpool 80 /81

Cup Finals v Ipswich [ 2 ] v Man Utd v West Ham v Hull

It's a load of old bollocks Kiwi, some people are desperate to be offended.

Yep once stood back to allow a woman to enter a lift before me -?”don’t patronise me”. I didn’t have a comeback at the time.

Because he is a sleazy thuggish dictator. And the Russian economy is in the shitter https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ ... uble-41872

Lot of speculation about our our players leaving in January. Torreira and Xhaka to Italy. Aubameyang to Spain etc

Wonder if we will see some movement

He also kills political opponents and journalists who oppose him and blows airliners full of innocent people out of the sky.

What a great guy