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Post #398561  Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:38 pm 
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Crazy decision to bring on Aubameyang. If he picks up an injury, Emery should be put up against a wall and shot.


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Post #398562  Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:38 pm 
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Could someone talk me through this substitution?

Ten minutes gives Reiss (who has looked much better tonight ) a break and Aubameyang a quick run out


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Post #398563  Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:39 pm 
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Crazy decision to bring on Aubameyang. If he picks up an injury, Emery should be put up against a wall and shot.

What are the odds. Ten minutes

If it was half an hour I’d understand the concern but it’s being played at snails pace


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Could someone talk me through this substitution?

Ten minutes gives Reiss (who has looked much better tonight ) a break and Aubameyang a quick run out


Why risk him is my thinking. Spose he isn't made of glass is he, as you were.


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Özil could certainly learn a lot from Martinelli about work rate and pressing. He is a livewire

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Crazy decision to bring on Aubameyang. If he picks up an injury, Emery should be put up against a wall and shot.

What are the odds. Ten minutes

If it was half an hour I’d understand the concern but it’s being played at snails pace

Four up, what is the point? Why risk it at all?


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bromley gooner wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
What are the odds. Ten minutes

If it was half an hour I’d understand the concern but it’s being played at snails pace

Four up, what is the point? Why risk it at all?

Stretch his legs

Moral boost for the kids

Keeps him fit

It’s static.


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Post #398568  Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:45 pm 
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Özil could certainly learn a lot from Martinelli about work rate and pressing. He is a livewire


If he’s not learnt that at 30 years I’d suggest there’s not going to be a lightbulb moment for Mesut :laughing7:


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Post #398569  Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:47 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
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Four up, what is the point? Why risk it at all?

Stretch his legs

Moral boost for the kids

Keeps him fit

It’s static.


I'd suggest he'll get quite the stretch of the legs making up for our defending in the premership with his goals all season long...


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Post #398570  Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:48 pm 
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And another clean sheet for Martinez.

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Worth waking up to watch :53big-emoticons:

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TOP GUN wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Four up, what is the point? Why risk it at all?

Stretch his legs

Moral boost for the kids

Keeps him fit

It’s static.

None of those are good reasons.


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And another clean sheet for Martinez.


Yay! Although SL had no bite up front.

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Loving Martinelli tonight. Even looked really dangerous from the wide left position. He says he models his game on his idol Ronaldo. Plenty of similarities in style.
Nelson, Tierney, Ceballos and Willock all very good as well. And more games in the legs for Bellerin and holding


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And another clean sheet for Martinez.


Yay! Although SL had no bite up front.

That normally doesn’t seem to stop us conceding goals. :icon_wink:

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Emery out! :8angers:

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Standard were very poor but what an enjoyable game to watch.

Martinelli scored two absolute crackers. I can't remember the last time I saw a header as good as that from an Arsenal player (perhaps the one he scored against Forest :laughing7: ). If he meant to direct it as he did (and not just get his head on it) it was a genuine worldclass finish. The second was pretty darn good as well. The dink across goal to set-up Ceballo's goal was also delightful.

Willock looks a player every time I see him. That ability to travel with the ball (as Hartson put it) is fantastic and his box-to-box energy can really add something to our midfield.

Tierney's crossing is what we have been missing for years from a left back.

Excellent all round run-out.


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Loving Martinelli tonight. Even looked really dangerous from the wide left position. He says he models his game on his idol Ronaldo. Plenty of similarities in style.
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His goals were great but off the ball he was sensational with his movement and running, he was always looking to get himself into a position to receive the ball in a dangerous area.

How much money will Saka, him and Nelson save us ?


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Loving Martinelli tonight. Even looked really dangerous from the wide left position. He says he models his game on his idol Ronaldo. Plenty of similarities in style.
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His goals were great but off the ball he was sensational with his movement and running, he was always looking to get himself into a position to receive the ball in a dangerous area.

How much money will Saka, him and Nelson save us ?


Really surprised Emery says he doesn't see him as a CF because everything about him.........his pace, movement, bravery and finishing....... suggests that is exactly what he should be.


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socrates wrote:
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His goals were great but off the ball he was sensational with his movement and running, he was always looking to get himself into a position to receive the ball in a dangerous area.

How much money will Saka, him and Nelson save us ?


Really surprised Emery says he doesn't see him as a CF because everything about him.........his pace, movement, bravery and finishing....... suggests that is exactly what he should be.


But did you see him on the left? He was only out there for 10 minutes but caused equal amounts of havoc with his pace and touch and almost had 2 assists.


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Great win & a real optimism about some of these young players.

I just wish our teams would try & put some of these teams to the sword.

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I just wish our teams would try & put some of these teams to the sword.


Eh ? Were you concerned at 4 nil then?

Can I suggest an ambien or Valium ? Should help


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TOP GUN wrote:
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Really surprised Emery says he doesn't see him as a CF because everything about him.........his pace, movement, bravery and finishing....... suggests that is exactly what he should be.


But did you see him on the left? He was only out there for 10 minutes but caused equal amounts of havoc with his pace and touch and almost had 2 assists.


Indeed I did. I'm not saying he couldn't play in wide positions, he showed tonight he can. However, tonight with his pace, movement, instinctive positioning and finishing he looked like a natural striker.


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But did you see him on the left? He was only out there for 10 minutes but caused equal amounts of havoc with his pace and touch and almost had 2 assists.


Indeed I did. I'm not saying he couldn't play in wide positions, he showed tonight he can. However, tonight with his pace, movement, instinctive positioning and finishing he looked like a natural striker.


It’s styles isn’t it. His style is that of a wing forward, they highlighted that fact that he wasn’t in front of the goal for his first, only to say that he wasn’t a goal obsessed (in a bad way) penalty box merchant. He has the style of a wing forward in his play. He could develop any way he wants, really exciting. But someone like Diego Costa with none of his pace but lots of power hold up play, completely different but he’s only a striker and couldn’t play out wide. Martinelli isn’t that, he doesn’t have that, I think that’s what’s being alluded to.

Ronaldo 18-24 wasn’t a central striker but became that later. He might have that kind of development.


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socrates wrote:
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But did you see him on the left? He was only out there for 10 minutes but caused equal amounts of havoc with his pace and touch and almost had 2 assists.


Indeed I did. I'm not saying he couldn't play in wide positions, he showed tonight he can. However, tonight with his pace, movement, instinctive positioning and finishing he looked like a natural striker.


I agree the way he runs and is constantly on the move typically lends itself to a striker.

Could be a bit of a Reyes and utilised in 2 roles. Regardless he looks a serious talent


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As promised I spoke to someone closer to this one than me, and the answer was that Martinelli has been unbelievable in training and has no respect for reputations; he is very physical and punishes any slackness from others. Emery likes this and sees value for the team in him training with the senior group, rather than playing him in the 23’s.


Another Anelka?


Pardon the conceit of responding to my own post, but you heard it here first!

That lad is something special.


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I thought Martinelli was a real live wire tonight. That header was really special and he should be on the bench for Sunday. Tierney was great as well, exactly the sort of player we have been crying out for ages. He should be straight in the first team. Holding had an easy game but he looked so assured. He should be challenging for a first team spot. I thought Willock looked very classy. Nelson had a decent game and put in a very respectable effort. Ceballos looked very good too but he does seem to hog the ball a bit. Bellerin looked rusty but its great that he's back and playing again. I also didn't think it was worth the risk putting Aubameyang on.
The only down side was the woman a few rows behind me who kept SCREAMING during the second half and it was really irritating. (and no she wasn't being attacked or anything....)


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TOP GUN wrote:
Gaz from Oz wrote:

I just wish our teams would try & put some of these teams to the sword.


Eh ? Were you concerned at 4 nil then?

Can I suggest an ambien or Valium ? Should help

No the win was secured although at Arsenal a 4 goal lead is not always enough. It seems we score 2 or even 3 and then take our foot off. Did BayerN do it the other day, or City when they play. No doubt you thought 2-0 at Watford was enough. Or maybe when we were 4-0 up at Newcastle years ago that was enough. Take the foot off the throat and the momentum can easily shift.

Obviously you know something about these drugs.

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Aubameyang, Lacazette, Martinelli, Pépé, the rest of the youth, the attack is looking good. Full back positions are solid. Tierney has lived up to expectations. Midfield could use some reshuffling and balancing but is decent enough to get the job done. We have 2 good keepers. Central defense is the weak spot. That's an open secret. I am hoping we start spending there. I like Holding. Always have.

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... n-20399861
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Would be happy if next year Bellerin was captain with Guendouzi to fill in for the games when he did not play. Both get it as to what Arsenal should mean.

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Time to really shine with very good wins. Let's start with Bournemouth!

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Post #398593  Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:38 am 
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Really great showing again from the second string eleven. I think a big difference between this side and our starting eleven is how they're playing without any pressure, they can just go out and play.

Martinelli motm obviously, he looks like this years Guendozi in the way he comes from absolutely nowhere and plays without any fear. He just looks like he belongs on this level. Thought Nelson did better as well, lots of things still doesn't come off for him but he looked more direct and full of confidence. Willock very good again, Tierney should have the left back spot nailed down as soon as he's completely match fit. Holding needs to go straight back into central defense as well, Sokratis and Luiz just doesn't work well as a pair.

Lots to be positive about. We could actually be looking at a situation where 3 or maybe 4 players from the same youth crop becomes regular players for us. Thet's extremely rare these days.


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Really great showing again from the second string eleven. I think a big difference between this side and our starting eleven is how they're playing without any pressure, they can just go out and play.

Martinelli motm obviously, he looks like this years Guendozi in the way he comes from absolutely nowhere and plays without any fear. He just looks like he belongs on this level. Thought Nelson did better as well, lots of things still doesn't come off for him but he looked more direct and full of confidence. Willock very good again, Tierney should have the left back spot nailed down as soon as he's completely match fit. Holding needs to go straight back into central defense as well, Sokratis and Luiz just doesn't work well as a pair.

Lots to be positive about. We could actually be looking at a situation where 3 or maybe 4 players from the same youth crop becomes regular players for us. Thet's extremely rare these days.

Plus even the ones that don’t make the first team will sell for big money. I think the new admin at Arsenal will make sure we have a lot more sell on clauses for those that go.

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https://www.caughtoffside.com/2019/10/0 ... -transfer/
‘Agent Lacazette’ – Some Arsenal fans think star man can help seal quality £53m transfer

Aouar has been earning rave reviews for his fine performances for Lyon, the classy midfielder is one of Lacazette’s former teammates.
The 21-year-old will be on the brink of being called up to France’s senior squad if he can continue to impress in Ligue 1,



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While I wouldn't mind making our midfield stronger, I'd love to read similar stories about rumors for top central defenders

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Very impressive performance last night. Every single player did well, without exception from Mustafi to Nelson. Martinelli was the star of the show and it’ll be interesting to see his progression. Could his development, if it continues, lead to a willingness to cash in on Lacazette in the not too distant future?

I think it was Hazuki who pointed out the other day that Nelson has gone from arguably the youngster most likely to make it to further down the pecking order. But credit to him; I don’t remember him having a better game in the first team than that before.

Am I right in thinking Manchester United poached a kid called Willock from us a while back? Maybe a year or two, although I’m not sure when? Or am I imagining it? If not, what happened to the brother (I assume) there? Anyway, if a brother did go there, I’m glad it wasn’t Joe that Manchester United signed. Having said that, I think it’s ridiculously early for anyone to start comparing Willock to Vieira, which I noticed someone (was it gooner7) do? His physical presence and ball winning potential is light years behind Vieira.


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Am I right in thinking Manchester United poached a kid called Willock from us a while back? Maybe a year or two, although I’m not sure when? Or am I imagining it? Having said that, I think it’s way too early for anyone to start comparing Willock to Vieira, which I noticed someone (was it gooner7) do?


I think you are correct that Man U did poach one of the Willock brothers from Arsenal. Not sure what happened to him as I think he was highly rated.
I agree also, that its waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to early to start comparing Willock to Vieira. Vieira was one of the finest midfielder's of his generation with wonderful power, grace and remarkable consistency. Willock is very promising and looks to have a good career ahead of him, but there is a very long road ahead until he can be placed alongside PV4.


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What a cracking goal!!!
Yes, that was Radford-good.

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Willock can progress into the same level as Viera

That is some prediction!! If Willock becomes even half the player Vieira was he’ll be a very good player for us.
Vieira for me was one of if not the best central mid in the world at his peak. You don’t get central mids like him in the game anywhere anymore. You’re a destroyer like kante, deep passer like de Bruyne or a box to box late arrival in the box like alli (when he was good) Vieira was all 3 and would destroy the current CM in the league
Yes, Paddy was a one-off - the complete midfielder in every respect. He could do it all at the age when most players are still learning.

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