Yes.

Poor on PES too, very disappointed.

No. No team "expects" to win at OT. They might fancy their chances but that's the height of it. I doubt teams expect to win at the Emirates either. We should on paper win but given the number of times we have let mediocre Manu teams off the hook I tend to have sense of trepidation going there.

Just saw a clip from RefWatch with Gallagher analysing our possible 50th unbeaten game and as usual he bottled it on every tackle.

Was it a foul - Fedinand's tackle on Freddie? wtf
Was it a red card offence - Neville on Reyes? wtf
Rooney's Penalty I didn't qiuite catch his response but it was just like Louiz last Pen when he waived his leg in front of the opponent with imo no physical contact.

What about van Nistelrooy's studs up on Ashley Cole. That was the worst tackle of the lot. He didn't even get a yellow as I recall. Mike Riley - totally in Fergie's back pocket. And that clown is now head of refereeing.

Yeah that was the biggest refereeing injustice I can ever recall

It was like match fixing

Saka starts apparently

I would take a draw tonight.
Not confident at all we can go there and impose ourselves and as someone already mentioned Emery will go with his usual cautious negative tactics.
Now less certain after hearing that Pogba and Rashford have been passed fit and Tierney not even in the squad.
We haven't won there in the league since 2006.
What's going to change tonight??
Even when we go there with a bit of confidence and they are in poor form they still turn us over.
I really hope I'm wrong but just cant see us winning.

I agree with your general point about not expecting much tonight, but one thing that has changed is that we're now the better team on paper. That should count for something.

Just had a peek at some stats. City has just started to do well there the last couple years but lost at home to Man Utd as well. And seems like each does well at the other's grounds. By no means a certain City fans think its a foregone conclusion they will win there, even now, with arguably the best City side ever and only a Moyes led Man Utd being arguably worse in the last decade or so. It's a derby and no fan thinks derbies are a certain win. Tottenham has been visibly the better side than us and their fans have no expectations of winning away to us. Liverpool haven't won there in the league since 2014, prior to that 2009.

I'm starting to question the sanity of Arsenal fans. We were known as some of the most sober minded, articulate fans but when I see fans talking about Emery out after a season given the circumstances of his arrival and him not losing ground in the league with an already weak side, and getting us to a cup final in Europe, well, one has to wonder. Neutrals are probably thinking, "wot are Arsenal fans about?".

A loss wouldn't be a surprise at all. It's why I think right now, a draw is a good result for us.

Didn’t count for much in 2016 Haz when we took on what was by common consent the worst Manc team for a generation. The child Rashford scored 2 (on his full debut I think) and they beat us quite comfortably 3-2.

I'm a very rare poster (but regular reader and forum fan) but just have to vent my years of fury about that game. I'm forbidden by the family from youtubing it often cos it still takes about a week for me to calm down, even 15 years later.
Having just watched it (couldn't resist and will probably find it hard to sleep tonight), was semi-placated by one of the comments about it needing MU/Riley's disgraceful conduct to stop that magnificent 49 game run. That's about the first time I've been able to get a tiny bit of perspective on it.
Grrrrr - time to skulk back to my cave and resume my never ending torment.

Grrrrr - time to skulk back to my cave and resume my never ending torment.[/quote]

This is not good - replying to my own post. But shows the extent of my never ending fury. Anyway.....

Was at OT for that game and, from where I was sitting, was furious with Sol re the penalty.

On the horrible way home on the train, was with mate who was able to get Sky on his phone and we immediately (at about Stockport - what a dreadful dump) realised that Rooney had cheated.
Carriage full of Gooners and Cockney Reds. How it stayed relatively calm is still a mystery especially as we did our bit to share the footage with just about everyone around us.
Right, will post again in about ten years when I'm next allowed to watch it.

Emery playing a crap defensive lineup. What is wrong with him. It'll be a minor miracle if we win, I'm sure they've been wound up by one of their haters..............

As far as I’m concerned it was match fixing,

The other one that sticks in my memory was when sol got sent off for elbowing or not scholes at Highbury. That morning I told a United fan at my work they were going to do that and when I came in the next day he nodded.

Emery has *%^@** up his team selection in my opinion.

No Özil in squad, no ceballos and no Willock

Even if we win that’s a mistake

The guys a joke. It's like he's looking to lose the fans. Some say he has lost the squad already.

Here we go.................

Man U's midfield is weak, we really should dominate the centre of the park - but I know we won't. I think man u will sit off us and use their pace to kill us......and we'll no doubt walk right in to it

Warrior......................................

Please fix my time zone. I'm 30 minutes behind. You don't want me to miss the goals huh

Chambers. Stupid.

Freind is such a c u n t.

Unnecessary yellow so early in the game

Offs that goal kick.

They never seemed that problematic till Emery arrived

I suppose we're all used to an Arsenal player being booked and then a Man U player (Lingard) getting away without a booking.

Ridiculous

A typical united home performance from the ref

and another one for Man U not given a yellow

I know it’s still early days in the season, but Pépé isn’t exactly contributing yet overall. Or am I missing something?

It's not you missing something it's him................

Saka has been our best player. Looks so relaxed

Give him time. Bergkamp and Pires took time to get going and they didn't turn out too bad.

foul after foul after foul by Man U.
There is a yellow card worthy challenge and the ref plays a good advantage and there is another yellow card challenge immediately after - ref forgets the first one. Always annoys me that refs forget the one they played advantage on

I thought it was red for abh..............

We are faster to the ball than them. Good energy.

He’s a decent player no doubt but it hasn’t clicked yet

His direct running is causing problems but he’s hasnt clicked on yet.

Agree

I’m fairly sympathetic to that standpoint Brom, but I’d be more so if he was trying to involve himself more. Lack of confidence perhaps?

ffs

How was that a Utd free kick???

Yes could be. I know he stuck home a penalty the other day but a spectacular goal from open play wouldn't do him any harm!