I think that is a good summary.

Martinez was solid between the sticks. He made the saves you expect of a good keeper. No mistakes, kept it tight. He raised his own stock with that performance.

Soc, has one of the most discerning, critical eye (and its NOT meant as criticism) regarding The Arsenal so when he is that impressed, it says something.

I don't know if we are a different side in Europe. There is compelling evidence to suggest that since we went all the way to the final, showed some character up to the final (we won't talk about the collapse against Chelsea) while at the same not playing well in the league. Perhaps we would have won had it been a non PL side in the final, even of the same quality.

I don't know if we are a different side. It could be the PL is such a tough league, the competition in the Europa Cup pales to some extent in comparison. The only two PL sides in the competition met each other in the final. Also, the top 4 clubs in the CL made it far enough where they no longer could drop to the Europa cup. In fact, all the PL sides made it into the quarter finals.

So, it could be the league is the toughest in the world. And the Europa is a much easier competition in comparison. The Frankfurt win is huge though, as they were semi finalists last season and could have faced us in the final.

I agree.

Now that we have offloaded some of the expensive deadwood it’s great to see so many young players getting games. Do you reckon Mhikitaryan would have scored 1 and got 2 assists last night ?

That was an incredible cameo by Saka. Wonder if he will start seeing more game time.

I’m starting to have my doubts about emery but yesterday’s team selection was bold.

For the first time in years we have decent players coming through and isn’t it brilliant to watch Willock, Saka and Nelson get games rather than El nenny and that united cast off

Saka on Ljungberg: "He helps so much. Sometimes when I don’t understand what the coach [Emery] is trying to communicate with me, I have a better communication with Freddie. He speaks better English"

But how does Freddie know what Unai is saying so that he can pass it on? Or does Freddie speak Spanish?

Or - heresy - is Freddie providing his own direction?

Or, in other words, I'm a miserable git who is always moaning

The Europa League is generally much easier until you get to the knock-out phases. The odd game away from home can be tricky but the early rounds ought to be the place where the kids can gain valuable experience.

It's great isn't it, although I'm surprised Emery played so many kids in this particular game.

Apparently the club employs 3 ex secret service lip readers as part of the coaching staff who listen to Emery’s instructions then using a rare technique of understanding speech by visually interpreting the movements of the lips, face and tongue when normal sound is not available translate it to the players and staff so they know what they are doing.

Spurs have released a book about their champions league run called ‘one step from glory’

Haha...actually, quite the opposite. One of the few people's posts I actually look for. Always need a sober minded view of things.

Well let’s hope they are looking back in ten years time talking about the last time they had a chance to win anything at all.

Tierney and Bellerin played 62 minutes for the U23 tonight

Great news!

Ooooh, that might put Saka in the bad books of Emery Although it is true about Emery's English communication, it is not discernible.

Interesting story that broke yesterday, Liverpool were accused of hacking in to man city’s Scouting database back in 2012, in cans out yesterday that Liverpool paid city £1m over the incident but didn’t accept any wrongdoing

In which case I wish that Sky would hack into that for the tv interviews.

He basically needs that thing Stephen Hawking used. Sorted

How many of our regular first team have English as their first language? Tierney, AMN (although he won’t be when Bellerin is fit), probably Holding. Chambers is part of the squad, and Willock will play plenty of games (my guess is more than Nelson). I think Saka, despite his excellent second half in Frankfurt, is still quite some way from being a regular first team player, and Smith Rowe is even further away.

Out of that lot, when everyone is 100% fit, I’d say Tierney is the only guaranteed starter for a vital game, although Holding has a very good chance. Is the coach being fluent in English as important as it once was, even if it’s frustrating for fans listening to interviews?

Yes it’s absolutely essential

He needs to communicate on a level the fans and media can see he’s a solid decision maker, in control and be assured in his ability to do his job. If he can’t do that then all I’ll say is that football is an unforgiving business.

To be honest if he can’t get to that level I don’t think he will be around long and his placid interviews after games contribute to the overall thinking of many people who aren’t convinced by him

Didn’t seem to do Pochettino’s reputation much harm when it took him ages to give an interview in English. I’d say Emery has made a bigger effort to learn the language more quickly than he did.

Pochettino got some decent results. His English is now excellent and had to deal with a fan base with minimal expectations and intelligence

In a part of Iceland more isolated than an Arsenal central defender, I was most surprised to bump into one of my heroes.

Has Tottenham peaked?

You have to (or not) have to feel sorry for Liverpool. They have put together a side that would have ran away with the title, and pretty much brought back the glory days and City happens.

Good question my pencils up the nose and ears loving American friend

Answer is possibly. Ericsson leaving in January probably and a manager who looks increasingly like the Penny has dropped. Could be a turning point

Exactly, it’s all about results. I’m quite sure if results go well fans will miraculously become more tolerant of Emery’s broken English. Also, when Emery has been in England as long as Pochettino has, or if he is, I fully expect his English will be just as good. Is it possible some bad results have made a number of fans looking to moan about Emery move onto his English?

They peaked in 1961.

Foothilled? Probably.

Please could someone who is on his wavelength let him know that they won the Champion League. So he doesnt have to feel sorry for them.

Caglar Soyuncu looks a good player for Leicester.

Pretty sure Mislintat identified him as a priority signing a season or so back.

City 5 nil up after 25 minutes againest Watford

That’s the gap Emery has to address

Your going to be waiting an awful long time ...

Hmm. Now 8-0. I guess that Watford are finding that hugely different from playing us.

1961

Decaf beat you to the punch with that one.

Yes, my reflexes are slowing!

Yes, that should be easy enough, as City are not really all that special. Anything less than a 9-0 mullering of Watford at our place and the airplanes and banners will be fully deserved.