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And hes the future. Thanks for the photo - didn't exactly cheer me up.

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Post #319003  Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:42 am 
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Welcome back Daz !


Thank you, no way I was missing the opportunity to tousle the hair of my favourite forumite who is probably head-first in a barrel of rum burbling away about Chilean poofters

I thought yesterday it's odds on this event will bring you back ...... so I was right ...... again

Didn't watch the match thank God but the son came home yesterday cursing Trent Boult

.... but being the well adjusted model of serenity that I am ; when he explained the situation ; I gave a gallic shrug and said Kurt .. " c'est la vie ...don't begrudge the Poms their day in the sun ... they won , we threw it away ...... move on ".

So if you think you are going to get a rise out of me ; you gloating , gender challenged , microscopic penied Spanish speaking Pommie fairy ........think again

.. "One Carlos Braithwaite , there's only one Carlos Braithwaite "

Oh and by the way to any soft cock lisping ..... "wonderful to see you back Daz " .... I say pull your head in , let the t****er f*&^%**** off for another millenium .


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Oh and by the way to any soft cock lisping ..... "wonderful to see you back Daz " .... I say pull your head in , let the t****er f*&^%**** off for another millenium .


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Some say the true measure of a fan is how much he/she supports a club in bad times. I don't have a problem with that statement and while I can be accused of not being a true fan because I really don't care to search the net or my local tv stations for the match against the Rapids, my excuse is that the club isn't doing right by me (and others) via the owner. This owner is making it difficult to support the club because he isn't committed to us.

I will make a modicum of an effort but I'll wait for the highlights probably.

You are NOT an Arsenal fan.
Please get a new hobby.
It is sad seeing you post on here.
Every day you're getting older and you have nothing to show for your existence apart from a few (?) posts on an internet forum read by, at most, 30 people.

With that being only your seventh post I suppose it’s unlikely you were already blocked. But I think after that it’s a fairly safe bet that you soon will be. A bit safer than saying someone who doesn’t buy, get given, find or steal a ticket is unlikely to win the jackpot for tonight’s Euromillions draw. Unless he’s already seen it and blocked you already.

I would have thought one of the important reasons for posting here is not only that a relatively small number of people will read your views, but debate them with you. That will cover agreeing and disagreeing with you. Yet he’s blocked so many of the members who disagree with him, he must get something else from the forum.


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Bernard wrote:
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You are NOT an Arsenal fan.
Please get a new hobby.
It is sad seeing you post on here.
Every day you're getting older and you have nothing to show for your existence apart from a few (?) posts on an internet forum read by, at most, 30 people.

With that being only your seventh post I suppose it’s unlikely you were already blocked. But I think after that it’s a fairly safe bet that you soon will be. A bit safer than saying someone who doesn’t buy, get given, find or steal a ticket is unlikely to win the jackpot for tonight’s Euromillions draw. Unless he’s already seen it and blocked you already.

I would have thought one of the important reasons for posting here is not only that a relatively small number of people will read your views, but debate them with you. That will cover agreeing and disagreeing with you. Yet he’s blocked so many of the members who disagree with him, he must get something else from the forum.



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Saw the highlights. Didn't see anything I didn't expect. Wasn't much of a crowd which is surprising to some extent because you don't get European clubs playing friendlies in Colorado. New York, Los Angeles, Chicago? Yes. Colorado? I'd be surprised if there were any major clubs that played there preceding us.

There is typically good turnouts in Los Angeles. If the crowds are small then, no one really gives a ### about us. Even if you support another PL club, people come to see the rare chance of seeing a major European side. I went to a Man Utd vs. Club America (Mexico) friendly in LA a long time ago and it was well attended and I saw not only other gooners (donning the shirt) but Chelsea, Milan, etc, supporters.

I see in the papers we are linked to Dani Alves. He's what? 36? We might...just might be able to get most of a season out of him. Maybe he'll offer some "leadership", assuming he comes as rumored.

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What is really sad is that instead of talking about our signings and their impact we are talking about cricket and some strange decisions in a sport where betting dominates.


Our young players did well against Colorado... in the past that would have been the cue for someone to post "The future's bright. The future's red and white". Now nobody bothers... :sad5: :sad4:

I think we are all destroyed by many years of “false dawns”. We have not seen a player who has been with the club since real youth, like 10yo who has gone on to be a great for many years. Even Fabergas and others were poached from other clubs when they were very near adulthood. The real test with any youths introduced is not the first 10 games, it is when opposing coaches get to watch a number of DVDs of them and look for weaknesses. See Chambers as a classic example.

And that is why Holding could be the be our captain and CB for 10 years or gone at the end of the season.

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Our young players did well against Colorado... in the past that would have been the cue for someone to post "The future's bright. The future's red and white". Now nobody bothers... :sad5: :sad4:

I think we are all destroyed by many years of “false dawns”. We have not seen a player who has been with the club since real youth, like 10yo who has gone on to be a great for many years. Even Fabergas and others were poached from other clubs when they were very near adulthood. The real test with any youths introduced is not the first 10 games, it is when opposing coaches get to watch a number of DVDs of them and look for weaknesses. See Chambers as a classic example.
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And that is why Holding could be the be our captain and CB for 10 years or gone at the end of the season.

Regarding Holding, as I’ve said I’m with DHD and think somewhere in between is the most likely outcome. Doesn’t have the personality or ability to be our captain or central defender for the next ten years (unless we really do become rubbish). But I think he’s good enough to be around for a few years yet, even if it’s just as a squad back-up.


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I think we are all destroyed by many years of “false dawns”. We have not seen a player who has been with the club since real youth, like 10yo who has gone on to be a great for many years. Even Fabergas and others were poached from other clubs when they were very near adulthood. The real test with any youths introduced is not the first 10 games, it is when opposing coaches get to watch a number of DVDs of them and look for weaknesses. See Chambers as a classic example.
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And that is why Holding could be the be our captain and CB for 10 years or gone at the end of the season.

Regarding Holding, as I’ve said I’m with DHD and think somewhere in between is the most likely outcome. Doesn’t have the personality or ability to be our captain or central defender for the next ten years (unless we really do become rubbish). But I think he’s good enough to be around for a few years yet, even if it’s just as a squad back-up.


If we had that attitude we would never have signed Ian Wright.

Gary Cahill was 25 when he went to chelsea. Holding has shown plenty of promise at 23

However he will fail unless he moves because we are arsenal and all over the place right now.


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Saw the highlights. Didn't see anything I didn't expect. Wasn't much of a crowd which is surprising to some extent because you don't get European clubs playing friendlies in Colorado. New York, Los Angeles, Chicago? Yes. Colorado? I'd be surprised if there were any major clubs that played there preceding us.

There is typically good turnouts in Los Angeles. If the crowds are small then, no one really gives a ### about us. Even if you support another PL club, people come to see the rare chance of seeing a major European side. I went to a Man Utd vs. Club America (Mexico) friendly in LA a long time ago and it was well attended and I saw not only other gooners (donning the shirt) but Chelsea, Milan, etc, supporters.

I see in the papers we are linked to Dani Alves. He's what? 36? We might...just might be able to get most of a season out of him. Maybe he'll offer some "leadership", assuming he comes as rumored.


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Regarding Holding, as I’ve said I’m with DHD and think somewhere in between is the most likely outcome. Doesn’t have the personality or ability to be our captain or central defender for the next ten years (unless we really do become rubbish). But I think he’s good enough to be around for a few years yet, even if it’s just as a squad back-up.

If we had that attitude we would never have signed Ian Wright.

Gary Cahill was 25 when he went to chelsea. Holding has shown plenty of promise at 23

However he will fail unless he moves because we are arsenal and all over the place right now.

You’re one of the people who overrate him in that case. There were games last season when he partnered Mustafi when Mustafi played better.


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And hes the future. Thanks for the photo - didn't exactly cheer me up.

At least he didn’t turn up in a Tottenham shirt. :8angers:

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Bernard wrote:
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If we had that attitude we would never have signed Ian Wright.

Gary Cahill was 25 when he went to chelsea. Holding has shown plenty of promise at 23

However he will fail unless he moves because we are arsenal and all over the place right now.

You’re one of the people who overrate him in that case. There were games last season when he partnered Mustafi when Mustafi played better.


Holding never forgot to get goalside during a cup final though.


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Ceballos signing on loan. There was a time when we didn’t have to get Spanish rejects on loan


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Waste of time. Kroenke couldn't care less.

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Ceballos signing on loan. There was a time when we didn’t have to get Spanish rejects on loan

If true, we are getting a very good player. Hardly a cause for complaint. Many RM rejects went on to have successful spells at other clubs. Until last season, Özil wasn't too bad either.


If he does well he goes back to Spain. If he does bad we will have wasted a load of our money

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Holding never forgot to get goalside during a cup final though.

I thought he’d only played one cup final. Not forgetting to get goal side in a single game hardly makes him the new Bekenbauer.


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Bernard wrote:
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Holding never forgot to get goalside during a cup final though.

I thought he’d only played one cup final. Not forgetting to get goal side in a single game hardly makes him the new Bekenbauer.

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Does anyone really think things will materially change when Stan pegs it? I remain unconvinced.

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I thought he’d only played one cup final. Not forgetting to get goal side in a single game hardly makes him the new Bekenbauer.

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Mustafi is the jizz inside a used condom left discarded outside a boozer in deptford. Disgraces himself most weeks. He’s not the actual Johnny because that’s a useful instrument... he’s the old jizz

Keep trying to defend him

If you think I’m trying to defend Mustafi you haven’t been reading my posts carefully. But there were games when they partnered each other in the first half of last season when Mustafi played better than Holding.

Did you say something recently about having an emotional attachment to Holding, even if they weren’t the precise words you used? If so, maybe that explains your overreaction to my earlier post. He’s good but not great. At best, on occasion, very good. That’s the basis of what I’m saying.


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Does anyone really think things will materially change when Stan pegs it? I remain unconvinced.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footba ... 91356.html


Tim stillman tweeted this which is exactly how I feel about this statement


I can keep telling you I am very ambitious about becoming an astronaut. But you can see it’s not true because it’s very clear I’ve done nothing to achieve it and no amount of words conceal that.


Exactly how I feel about the statement


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I think the Josh statement is PR drivel, but when he said fans should be excited by the incoming transfers he is saying something which supporters can and will measure him by. If the signings turn out to be unexciting it will make people even more sceptical.


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I think the Josh statement is PR drivel, but when he said fans should be excited by the incoming transfers he is saying something which supporters can and will measure him by. If the signings turn out to be unexciting it will make people even more sceptical.

If the Spanish midfielder Celballos or whatever comes that’s a loan without an option to buy. Why on earth would anyone get excited by that? It’s just cobbling an 11 together. It’s also a written admission the club screwed up with Ramsey

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Why are we getting statements from Josh Kroenke when Stan Kroenke is sole owner of KSE, of which (sadly) Arsenal FC are a subsidiary company?, the man is a total coward and his son is just a mouthpiece for him.

KSE's priority is clearly the LA Rams project, they are spending $5BN on the development of the 'complex', Arsenal are clearly just being used as a form of collateral against the money they are borrowing for this.

We should be excited?, why?, is daddy selling up already?!.

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I’ve been struggling with sleeping in the recent heat. I’ve just found the perfect solution. Play the video of Josh Kroenke’s PR drivel.

Flannel and hogwash with no actual substance.

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That’s hilarious - have you ever thought about becoming a comedian? Have you got over that humiliation in the semi yet? :12hello-bye:

Mate in a week of bad results it wasn’t even in the top 2. Queenslander Ash Barty lost at Wimbledon, Queensland lost the State of Origin in the last minute and NSW cheat Dave Warner with Australian teammates lost a semi. I don’t think it really even registered much interest. I may be Australian when it suits but I am first and foremost a Queenslander and North Queenslander at that.

We have won a few WC’s so while it is good to win it wasn’t life or death which apparently it is for some of the other second rate nation. Call it the Leicester year and leave it at that.

Never heard of Queensland but it sounds as though your sportsman are pretty second rate themselves! :1laughter:


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I think the Josh statement is PR drivel, but when he said fans should be excited by the incoming transfers he is saying something which supporters can and will measure him by. If the signings turn out to be unexciting it will make people even more sceptical.

Might they just hide behind ‘excitement’ being subjective. Where does Martinelli rank in the excitement stakes? One for the future, I’m only excited by transfers that will address key weaknesses in the first 11 for the here and now, namely 2 new CB, a LB, a RB to challenge Bellerin, a Powerful CM, a creative goalscoring CM and a pacey wife player. Get those 7 in, get rid of the underperforming players (we all know the names) and supplement them with our talented youth. Then we can get excited


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Mate in a week of bad results it wasn’t even in the top 2. Queenslander Ash Barty lost at Wimbledon, Queensland lost the State of Origin in the last minute and NSW cheat Dave Warner with Australian teammates lost a semi. I don’t think it really even registered much interest. I may be Australian when it suits but I am first and foremost a Queenslander and North Queenslander at that.

We have won a few WC’s so while it is good to win it wasn’t life or death which apparently it is for some of the other second rate nation. Call it the Leicester year and leave it at that.

Never heard of Queensland but it sounds as though your sportsman are pretty second rate themselves! :1laughter:

I can’t account for the education system in some of the underdeveloped nations. I celebrate the fact you have learnt to read.

I think it is best we talk more about the cricket because there is nothing happening at the club.

I assume in the Corinthians spirit you will be happy to give the WC to New Zealand who actually should have apparently won it.

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Never heard of Queensland but it sounds as though your sportsman are pretty second rate themselves! :1laughter:

I can’t account for the education system in some of the underdeveloped nations. I celebrate the fact you have learnt to read.

I think it is best we talk more about the cricket because there is nothing happening at the club.
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I assume in the Corinthians spirit you will be happy to give the WC to New Zealand who actually should have apparently won it.

On which basis? Even if 5 runs had been given and not 6 Stokes would have whacked the last ball for 4 or 6 if he knew we needed 3 runs and not 2. You need to get over it before it eats you up!


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And hes the future. Thanks for the photo - didn't exactly cheer me up.

At least he didn’t turn up in a Tottenham shirt. :8angers:

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Oh and by the way to any soft cock lisping ..... "wonderful to see you back Daz " .... I say pull your head in , let the t****er f*&^%**** off for another millenium .


Agreed.

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You’re one of the people who overrate him in that case. There were games last season when he partnered Mustafi when Mustafi played better.

That's the thing though. Mustafi is capable of being an excellent defender for 90 minutes of a game most of the time. The problem is that most matches last 93-97 minutes given injury time in each half, and he is just incapable of concentrating for all 97 minutes on a regular basis. He's in no way crap, but he lacks the mental strength and concentration to succeed at the top level with any regularity. In many ways, Holding is an inferior defender (not as quick or agile, and a less varied skillset), but he is also less prone to spectacular WTF moments that Mustafi specialises in.

Mustafi is 95% an excellent defender, but the other 5% is simply not top flight standard, with perhaps 1% being non-league standard.

I would largely agree with you on Mustafi, although I would make the qualification that there are games when he doesn’t make serious errors. Let me clarify that I’ll be perfectly happy if he does leave this summer, although I’ll be even more happy if Koscielny gets his wish and moves on.


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Stan is 71 years old. Josh is going to inherit things. He's the one that is going to running Arsenal for decades. The only "bright" spot if one can call it that is he wants to win a bit more than his father.

As far protests, etc, won't do a bit of good. They have learned about the passion of football fans and the waiting list for season tickets tells them any protest is 'just those English fans and their passion for the sport'.

I've been saying the Rams are the priority. And also that there is no financial reason why they should sell. The value of their initial investment has indicated that. Again, its like complaining about the rain pretty much with the Kroenkes. Won't do much good. We are stuck with them.

...and yes, we can thank Dein for inviting his interest in Arsenal and leaving the board with only 2 choices, both of which he orchestrated.

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I can’t account for the education system in some of the underdeveloped nations. I celebrate the fact you have learnt to read.

I think it is best we talk more about the cricket because there is nothing happening at the club.
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I assume in the Corinthians spirit you will be happy to give the WC to New Zealand who actually should have apparently won it.

On which basis? Even if 5 runs had been given and not 6 Stokes would have whacked the last ball for 4 or 6 if he knew we needed 3 runs and not 2. You need to get over it before it eats you up!

I couldn't care less about the cricket but every now and then I don't mind a bit of fishing. Looks like I have someone on the hook now. Your the one defending the situation.

My interest in cricket is principally test cricket but even that is a bit sad nowadays with players earning spots in the team when they would not even be good enough for Sheffield Shield in the old days. Still I look forward to the ashes but won't be sitting up all night checking the scores. Never been to a one day match in my life but been to a few test matches. And no I don't expect us to win the ashes.

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Just watched highlights of the game agsinst Rapids. Must say Olyainka’s goal was brilliant. See from the official site Emery is talking 3-5 captains again. Plus he seems to suggest getting in 3-4 players. Time will tell.

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And I suggest we tell Celtic to f..k off in relation to Tierney.

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Lookman from Everton has signed for Leipzig for £22.5m. That now becomes the benchmark for any young English talent going to Germany. Nelson achieved more than lookman and is 2 years younger. I obviously don’t want to sell Nelson but he’s worth at least that now.


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Post #319039  Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:02 am 
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
And I suggest we tell Celtic to f..k off in relation to Tierney.

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... r-16593918

Celtic are notes that they sold Van Dijk for £13m and then he was sold for £75m. Same with Dembele, they want to make sure they get a big sum for them. English clubs are taken for a ride when it comes to transfer fees though.
The problem for us is it looks like Tierney is our No.1 target and we have no other options.
We seem to be haggling over £7m add one rather than £7m up front. I don’t like to just roll over to demands but that isn’t that much - especially when you consider we pay Özil £20m a year


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Post #319040  Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:04 am 
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
And I suggest we tell Celtic to f..k off in relation to Tierney.

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... r-16593918

Well if it’s true that Celtic are looking for something approaching £50m, then I expect you to get your wish.


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