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Post #508441  Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:18 pm 
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For Kiwis crying foul, there is another point about that amazing game.

Archer's first ball of the second 'super' over was called as a wide. That was a judgement on the part of Umpire Dharmasena but there's a perfectly reasonable case to argue that it wasn't wide at all. To my eye, the ball was on the blue guide line, not wide of it.

That would have been one less run to NZ and more importantly, one less ball which in the context of that over was worth 1, 2 or 6 runs. If the ball hadn't been called 'wide', that would likely have lopped a minimum of 2 runs off the NZ score - maybe more.

Mind you, there's a blindingly simple and indeed infallible way to resolve all these contentious issues - just read the scorecard in this morning's paper.

It definitely wasn't a wide.

I get the impression the calling of wides is an area of the game that has moved away from the rule book. I’m not saying that’s right. Just that it is what has happened, particularly in one day games, time after time after time.

Considering what seems to be called a wide whoever is playing, not just yesterday’s game, I’d have been astonished if Archer’s delivery had not been called a wide.


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Well Kiwi nothing much I can say. Did not watch it but it seems like a heartbreaking end.

Time to think positive. You can wake up next month & know you have a great prime minister & they will have Boris and his bike helmet. :58big-emoticons:

:laughing7: True Gaz ...... don't want this to come across as sour grapes ........ They were in fact tied twice ... the match then after the extra over

England lost all their wickets getting the 241 while NZ only lost eight .... now that surely would be the logical way to assess who won

...... but THEN they give England the win on the basis they had scored more fours and sixes during the match ..... :icon_scratch:

Sounds like they were looking for any formula to guarantee an English victory .

I'm figuring if the fours and sixes had been equal they would have moved on to which team had the most supporters in the crowd .

Maybe the V8 supercar heirarchy is running that event as well .

Mrs Kiwi is a Pom I'll sort out my frustrations give her a damn good beating


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Post #508443  Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:39 pm 
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It definitely wasn't a wide.

I get the impression the calling of wides is an area of the game that has moved away from the rule book. I’m not saying that’s right. Just that it is what has happened, particularly in one day games, time after time after time.

Considering what seems to be called a wide whoever is playing, not just yesterday’s game, I’d have been astonished if Archer’s delivery had not been called a wide.


Tricky one Bern

The ump is supposed to use the blue lines as a guide but he’s also supposed to take account of the batsman’s stance at delivery and as the ball arrives.

The point about ‘wides’ is that the batsmen is supposed to be able to reach the bowled ball from a normal batting stance. But we all know that batsmen dance all around the crease these days as the bowler is about to deliver - backwards and forwards but more relevantly, to off and to leg, sometimes by a metre or more. Sometimes this is so he/she can be in a position to hit a ball bowled outside off to leg or a ball bowled outside leg to off. Realistically, there is no such thing any more as a ‘normal’ stance, particularly when the batter switches from a right to a left hand guard.

Archer’s first ball was on the blue line but crucially, Neesham had moved across to be well outside his off stump as the ball passed him. From a normal - static - middle stump guard, he probably couldn’t reach a ball bowled on the blue line, though technically it should still have been a legal delivery. That’s where the bowler’s skill comes into play, and Archer’s was of the highest order.

In the event, from where he was, Neesham definitely COULD have reached that ball so it should not have been called as a wide.


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Well Kiwi nothing much I can say. Did not watch it but it seems like a heartbreaking end.

Time to think positive. You can wake up next month & know you have a great prime minister & they will have Boris and his bike helmet. :58big-emoticons:

That’s hilarious - have you ever thought about becoming a comedian? Have you got over that humiliation in the semi yet? :12hello-bye:


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Tricky one Bern

The ump is supposed to use the blue lines as a guide but he’s also supposed to take account of the batsman’s stance at delivery and as the ball arrives.

The point about ‘wides’ is that the batsmen is supposed to be able to reach the bowled ball from a normal batting stance. But we all know that batsmen dance all around the crease these days as the bowler is about to deliver - backwards and forwards but more relevantly, to off and to leg, sometimes by a metre or more. Sometimes this is so he/she can be in a position to hit a ball bowled outside off to leg or a ball bowled outside leg to off. Realistically, there is no such thing any more as a ‘normal’ stance, particularly when the batter switches from a right to a left hand guard.

Archer’s first ball was on the blue line but crucially, Needham had moved across to be well outside his off stump as the ball passed him. From a normal - static - middle stump guard, he couldn’t reach a ball bowled on the blue line, though technically it should still have been a legal delivery. In the event, from where he was, he definitely COULD have reached that ball so it should not have been called as a wide.

I’m not disagreeing with you DHD. But from what you see being called a wide in countless one day games now, whoever is playing, I’d have been very surprised if it hadn’t been called a wide. I see it as the way the game has developed or moved on. Again, I’m not saying it’s right. Just that it is what has happened, for better or worse.


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Tricky one Bern

The ump is supposed to use the blue lines as a guide but he’s also supposed to take account of the batsman’s stance at delivery and as the ball arrives.

The point about ‘wides’ is that the batsmen is supposed to be able to reach the bowled ball from a normal batting stance. But we all know that batsmen dance all around the crease these days as the bowler is about to deliver - backwards and forwards but more relevantly, to off and to leg, sometimes by a metre or more. Sometimes this is so he/she can be in a position to hit a ball bowled outside off to leg or a ball bowled outside leg to off. Realistically, there is no such thing any more as a ‘normal’ stance, particularly when the batter switches from a right to a left hand guard.

Archer’s first ball was on the blue line but crucially, Needham had moved across to be well outside his off stump as the ball passed him. From a normal - static - middle stump guard, he couldn’t reach a ball bowled on the blue line, though technically it should still have been a legal delivery. In the event, from where he was, he definitely COULD have reached that ball so it should not have been called as a wide.

I’m not disagreeing with you DHD. But from what you see being called a wide in countless one day games now, whoever is playing, I’d have been very surprised if it hadn’t been called a wide. I see it as the way the game has developed or moved on. Again, I’m not saying it’s right. Just that it is what has happened, for better or worse.


I see that Bern but the point is that no matter where the batter stands, a ball bowled on or inside the blue guideline is not a wide.

If the batter moves to the leg side and the bowled ball is on or inside the offside blue line, the batter looks stupid; that’s brilliant bowling.

But if the batter moves to the off, the ump is supposed to allow a wider interpretation of the allowable width. Neesham moved appreciably to his off side so the notional blue line limit should also have moved.

In my opinion, that wasn’t a wide - though we all know, scorecard says it was.


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Well Kiwi nothing much I can say. Did not watch it but it seems like a heartbreaking end.

Time to think positive. You can wake up next month & know you have a great prime minister & they will have Boris and his bike helmet. :58big-emoticons:

That’s hilarious - have you ever thought about becoming a comedian? Have you got over that humiliation in the semi yet? :12hello-bye:

Mate in a week of bad results it wasn’t even in the top 2. Queenslander Ash Barty lost at Wimbledon, Queensland lost the State of Origin in the last minute and NSW cheat Dave Warner with Australian teammates lost a semi. I don’t think it really even registered much interest. I may be Australian when it suits but I am first and foremost a Queenslander and North Queenslander at that.

We have won a few WC’s so while it is good to win it wasn’t life or death which apparently it is for some of the other second rate nation. Call it the Leicester year and leave it at that.

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What is really sad is that instead of talking about our signings and their impact we are talking about cricket and some strange decisions in a sport where betting dominates.

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What is really sad is that instead of talking about our signings and their impact we are talking about cricket and some strange decisions in a sport where betting dominates.

Or we could talk about Josh Kroenke turning up at Arsenal training in LaLa Land wearing a t-shirt saying Rams, even though the colours he had were red/white. Really, have you no shame Josh. :14laughter:
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And hes the future. Thanks for the photo - didn't exactly cheer me up.

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Welcome back Daz !


Thank you, no way I was missing the opportunity to tousle the hair of my favourite forumite who is probably head-first in a barrel of rum burbling away about Chilean poofters

I thought yesterday it's odds on this event will bring you back ...... so I was right ...... again

Didn't watch the match thank God but the son came home yesterday cursing Trent Boult

.... but being the well adjusted model of serenity that I am ; when he explained the situation ; I gave a gallic shrug and said Kurt .. " c'est la vie ...don't begrudge the Poms their day in the sun ... they won , we threw it away ...... move on ".

So if you think you are going to get a rise out of me ; you gloating , gender challenged , microscopic penied Spanish speaking Pommie fairy ........think again

.. "One Carlos Braithwaite , there's only one Carlos Braithwaite "

Oh and by the way to any soft cock lisping ..... "wonderful to see you back Daz " .... I say pull your head in , let the t****er f*&^%**** off for another millenium .


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Oh and by the way to any soft cock lisping ..... "wonderful to see you back Daz " .... I say pull your head in , let the t****er f*&^%**** off for another millenium .


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Some say the true measure of a fan is how much he/she supports a club in bad times. I don't have a problem with that statement and while I can be accused of not being a true fan because I really don't care to search the net or my local tv stations for the match against the Rapids, my excuse is that the club isn't doing right by me (and others) via the owner. This owner is making it difficult to support the club because he isn't committed to us.

I will make a modicum of an effort but I'll wait for the highlights probably.

You are NOT an Arsenal fan.
Please get a new hobby.
It is sad seeing you post on here.
Every day you're getting older and you have nothing to show for your existence apart from a few (?) posts on an internet forum read by, at most, 30 people.

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P.S. Wonderful to see you back Daz.

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P.P.S. *%^@ off kiwi(s)

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Some say the true measure of a fan is how much he/she supports a club in bad times. I don't have a problem with that statement and while I can be accused of not being a true fan because I really don't care to search the net or my local tv stations for the match against the Rapids, my excuse is that the club isn't doing right by me (and others) via the owner. This owner is making it difficult to support the club because he isn't committed to us.

I will make a modicum of an effort but I'll wait for the highlights probably.

You are NOT an Arsenal fan.
Please get a new hobby.
It is sad seeing you post on here.
Every day you're getting older and you have nothing to show for your existence apart from a few (?) posts on an internet forum read by, at most, 30 people.

With that being only your seventh post I suppose it’s unlikely you were already blocked. But I think after that it’s a fairly safe bet that you soon will be. A bit safer than saying someone who doesn’t buy, get given, find or steal a ticket is unlikely to win the jackpot for tonight’s Euromillions draw. Unless he’s already seen it and blocked you already.

I would have thought one of the important reasons for posting here is not only that a relatively small number of people will read your views, but debate them with you. That will cover agreeing and disagreeing with you. Yet he’s blocked so many of the members who disagree with him, he must get something else from the forum.


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Bernard wrote:
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You are NOT an Arsenal fan.
Please get a new hobby.
It is sad seeing you post on here.
Every day you're getting older and you have nothing to show for your existence apart from a few (?) posts on an internet forum read by, at most, 30 people.

With that being only your seventh post I suppose it’s unlikely you were already blocked. But I think after that it’s a fairly safe bet that you soon will be. A bit safer than saying someone who doesn’t buy, get given, find or steal a ticket is unlikely to win the jackpot for tonight’s Euromillions draw. Unless he’s already seen it and blocked you already.

I would have thought one of the important reasons for posting here is not only that a relatively small number of people will read your views, but debate them with you. That will cover agreeing and disagreeing with you. Yet he’s blocked so many of the members who disagree with him, he must get something else from the forum.



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Saw the highlights. Didn't see anything I didn't expect. Wasn't much of a crowd which is surprising to some extent because you don't get European clubs playing friendlies in Colorado. New York, Los Angeles, Chicago? Yes. Colorado? I'd be surprised if there were any major clubs that played there preceding us.

There is typically good turnouts in Los Angeles. If the crowds are small then, no one really gives a ### about us. Even if you support another PL club, people come to see the rare chance of seeing a major European side. I went to a Man Utd vs. Club America (Mexico) friendly in LA a long time ago and it was well attended and I saw not only other gooners (donning the shirt) but Chelsea, Milan, etc, supporters.

I see in the papers we are linked to Dani Alves. He's what? 36? We might...just might be able to get most of a season out of him. Maybe he'll offer some "leadership", assuming he comes as rumored.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
What is really sad is that instead of talking about our signings and their impact we are talking about cricket and some strange decisions in a sport where betting dominates.


Our young players did well against Colorado... in the past that would have been the cue for someone to post "The future's bright. The future's red and white". Now nobody bothers... :sad5: :sad4:


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What is really sad is that instead of talking about our signings and their impact we are talking about cricket and some strange decisions in a sport where betting dominates.


Our young players did well against Colorado... in the past that would have been the cue for someone to post "The future's bright. The future's red and white". Now nobody bothers... :sad5: :sad4:

I think we are all destroyed by many years of “false dawns”. We have not seen a player who has been with the club since real youth, like 10yo who has gone on to be a great for many years. Even Fabergas and others were poached from other clubs when they were very near adulthood. The real test with any youths introduced is not the first 10 games, it is when opposing coaches get to watch a number of DVDs of them and look for weaknesses. See Chambers as a classic example.

And that is why Holding could be the be our captain and CB for 10 years or gone at the end of the season.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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Our young players did well against Colorado... in the past that would have been the cue for someone to post "The future's bright. The future's red and white". Now nobody bothers... :sad5: :sad4:

I think we are all destroyed by many years of “false dawns”. We have not seen a player who has been with the club since real youth, like 10yo who has gone on to be a great for many years. Even Fabergas and others were poached from other clubs when they were very near adulthood. The real test with any youths introduced is not the first 10 games, it is when opposing coaches get to watch a number of DVDs of them and look for weaknesses. See Chambers as a classic example.
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And that is why Holding could be the be our captain and CB for 10 years or gone at the end of the season.

Regarding Holding, as I’ve said I’m with DHD and think somewhere in between is the most likely outcome. Doesn’t have the personality or ability to be our captain or central defender for the next ten years (unless we really do become rubbish). But I think he’s good enough to be around for a few years yet, even if it’s just as a squad back-up.


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I think we are all destroyed by many years of “false dawns”. We have not seen a player who has been with the club since real youth, like 10yo who has gone on to be a great for many years. Even Fabergas and others were poached from other clubs when they were very near adulthood. The real test with any youths introduced is not the first 10 games, it is when opposing coaches get to watch a number of DVDs of them and look for weaknesses. See Chambers as a classic example.
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And that is why Holding could be the be our captain and CB for 10 years or gone at the end of the season.

Regarding Holding, as I’ve said I’m with DHD and think somewhere in between is the most likely outcome. Doesn’t have the personality or ability to be our captain or central defender for the next ten years (unless we really do become rubbish). But I think he’s good enough to be around for a few years yet, even if it’s just as a squad back-up.


If we had that attitude we would never have signed Ian Wright.

Gary Cahill was 25 when he went to chelsea. Holding has shown plenty of promise at 23

However he will fail unless he moves because we are arsenal and all over the place right now.


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Saw the highlights. Didn't see anything I didn't expect. Wasn't much of a crowd which is surprising to some extent because you don't get European clubs playing friendlies in Colorado. New York, Los Angeles, Chicago? Yes. Colorado? I'd be surprised if there were any major clubs that played there preceding us.

There is typically good turnouts in Los Angeles. If the crowds are small then, no one really gives a ### about us. Even if you support another PL club, people come to see the rare chance of seeing a major European side. I went to a Man Utd vs. Club America (Mexico) friendly in LA a long time ago and it was well attended and I saw not only other gooners (donning the shirt) but Chelsea, Milan, etc, supporters.

I see in the papers we are linked to Dani Alves. He's what? 36? We might...just might be able to get most of a season out of him. Maybe he'll offer some "leadership", assuming he comes as rumored.


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Regarding Holding, as I’ve said I’m with DHD and think somewhere in between is the most likely outcome. Doesn’t have the personality or ability to be our captain or central defender for the next ten years (unless we really do become rubbish). But I think he’s good enough to be around for a few years yet, even if it’s just as a squad back-up.

If we had that attitude we would never have signed Ian Wright.

Gary Cahill was 25 when he went to chelsea. Holding has shown plenty of promise at 23

However he will fail unless he moves because we are arsenal and all over the place right now.

You’re one of the people who overrate him in that case. There were games last season when he partnered Mustafi when Mustafi played better.


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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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Our young players did well against Colorado... in the past that would have been the cue for someone to post "The future's bright. The future's red and white". Now nobody bothers... :sad5: :sad4:

I think we are all destroyed by many years of “false dawns”. We have not seen a player who has been with the club since real youth, like 10yo who has gone on to be a great for many years. Even Fabergas and others were poached from other clubs when they were very near adulthood. The real test with any youths introduced is not the first 10 games, it is when opposing coaches get to watch a number of DVDs of them and look for weaknesses. See Chambers as a classic example.

And that is why Holding could be the be our captain and CB for 10 years or gone at the end of the season.


If Emery can get the first team to show significant improvements, the good vibes will return. The feel good factor depends very much on results on the pitch. The key will be our away form (quite confident we can maintain our very good home form) - 25 points was an improvement to the previous season of 16, but we should be looking at 30 points minimum from away games.


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And hes the future. Thanks for the photo - didn't exactly cheer me up.

At least he didn’t turn up in a Tottenham shirt. :8angers:

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If we had that attitude we would never have signed Ian Wright.

Gary Cahill was 25 when he went to chelsea. Holding has shown plenty of promise at 23

However he will fail unless he moves because we are arsenal and all over the place right now.

You’re one of the people who overrate him in that case. There were games last season when he partnered Mustafi when Mustafi played better.


Holding never forgot to get goalside during a cup final though.


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Ceballos signing on loan. There was a time when we didn’t have to get Spanish rejects on loan


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Waste of time. Kroenke couldn't care less.

https://www.foxsportsasia.com/football/ ... w-stadium/

Arsenal fans fume as owner pays $2.6 billion for his American football side’s new stadium

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Ceballos signing on loan. There was a time when we didn’t have to get Spanish rejects on loan

If true, we are getting a very good player. Hardly a cause for complaint. Many RM rejects went on to have successful spells at other clubs. Until last season, Özil wasn't too bad either.


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Ceballos signing on loan. There was a time when we didn’t have to get Spanish rejects on loan

If true, we are getting a very good player. Hardly a cause for complaint. Many RM rejects went on to have successful spells at other clubs. Until last season, Özil wasn't too bad either.


If he does well he goes back to Spain. If he does bad we will have wasted a load of our money

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Holding never forgot to get goalside during a cup final though.

I thought he’d only played one cup final. Not forgetting to get goal side in a single game hardly makes him the new Bekenbauer.


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Post #508474  Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:57 pm 
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Bernard wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Holding never forgot to get goalside during a cup final though.

I thought he’d only played one cup final. Not forgetting to get goal side in a single game hardly makes him the new Bekenbauer.

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Mustafi is the jizz inside a used condom left discarded outside a boozer in deptford. Disgraces himself most weeks. He’s not the actual Johnny because that’s a useful instrument... he’s the old jizz


Keep trying to defend him


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Post #508475  Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:07 pm 
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Does anyone really think things will materially change when Stan pegs it? I remain unconvinced.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footba ... 91356.html


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TOP GUN wrote:
Bernard wrote:
I thought he’d only played one cup final. Not forgetting to get goal side in a single game hardly makes him the new Bekenbauer.

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Mustafi is the jizz inside a used condom left discarded outside a boozer in deptford. Disgraces himself most weeks. He’s not the actual Johnny because that’s a useful instrument... he’s the old jizz

Keep trying to defend him

If you think I’m trying to defend Mustafi you haven’t been reading my posts carefully. But there were games when they partnered each other in the first half of last season when Mustafi played better than Holding.

Did you say something recently about having an emotional attachment to Holding, even if they weren’t the precise words you used? If so, maybe that explains your overreaction to my earlier post. He’s good but not great. At best, on occasion, very good. That’s the basis of what I’m saying.


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Post #508477  Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:18 pm 
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Bernard wrote:
Does anyone really think things will materially change when Stan pegs it? I remain unconvinced.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footba ... 91356.html


Tim stillman tweeted this which is exactly how I feel about this statement


I can keep telling you I am very ambitious about becoming an astronaut. But you can see it’s not true because it’s very clear I’ve done nothing to achieve it and no amount of words conceal that.


Exactly how I feel about the statement


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Post #508478  Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:47 pm 
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I think the Josh statement is PR drivel, but when he said fans should be excited by the incoming transfers he is saying something which supporters can and will measure him by. If the signings turn out to be unexciting it will make people even more sceptical.


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I think the Josh statement is PR drivel, but when he said fans should be excited by the incoming transfers he is saying something which supporters can and will measure him by. If the signings turn out to be unexciting it will make people even more sceptical.

If the Spanish midfielder Celballos or whatever comes that’s a loan without an option to buy. Why on earth would anyone get excited by that? It’s just cobbling an 11 together. It’s also a written admission the club screwed up with Ramsey

Your 100% right


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Post #508480  Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:39 pm 
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Why are we getting statements from Josh Kroenke when Stan Kroenke is sole owner of KSE, of which (sadly) Arsenal FC are a subsidiary company?, the man is a total coward and his son is just a mouthpiece for him.

KSE's priority is clearly the LA Rams project, they are spending $5BN on the development of the 'complex', Arsenal are clearly just being used as a form of collateral against the money they are borrowing for this.

We should be excited?, why?, is daddy selling up already?!.

#KroenkeOUT

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