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Post #408841  Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:30 pm 
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We pull one back as we are 3 down. Then just surrender a 4th. Four in a final. Look at Hazard in the second - as simple as that you get the ball out wide in the area and you pick out a man. Have a f%&$#n look at it AK and NM - absolutely disgrace from both of them on a number of occasions. Aubameyang trotting around as if it will just happen. N-M is too slow to break and now shows he is a f%&$#n liability with a stupid penalty for their third. Don't get me started on Čech who is so slow getting down.

Defensively a shambles and being thrashed. Mental ability of a marshmallow. They can all *%^@ off. I will give Emery the offseason to absolutely clear out the mentally weak, and if we don't put it together with a big unbeaten run until October he must go.

These blokes are a disgrace to the shirt. Chelsea just sat back and then decided time to play - game set and match.

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Post #408842  Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:31 pm 
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Another foul on Aubameyang

That’s not why we’re being taken to the cleaners though is it?

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Post #408843  Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:31 pm 
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Saving pretty much our worst half of the season for our biggest half of the season.

At 1-0, keep calm and don’t let in a quick one.
At 3-1 there’s still 20 mins, 3 mins later 4-1 game over again

This team just collapses far too easily


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Post #408844  Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:33 pm 
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long time gooner wrote:
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Another foul on Aubameyang

That’s not why we’re being taken to the cleaners though is it?


I didn’t say it wasn’t


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Post #408845  Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:34 pm 
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You feel for Bernard and all the other fans who've paid a fortune and no doubt travelled like cattle to get there. The club should reimburse all their expenses.
So pissed off with this fiasco.


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long time gooner wrote:
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Another foul on Aubameyang

That’s not why we’re being taken to the cleaners though is it?

Indeed. Blaming the ref is absurd. We were 3-0 down before we had our first shot on target.

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Özil off. *%^@ off you are a disgrace.


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I really hope that is the last time I see Özil in an Arsenal shirt. Not had any impact all season. And paid £50,000 per day

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Post #408850  Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:36 pm 
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dec wrote:
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That’s not why we’re being taken to the cleaners though is it?

Indeed. Blaming the ref is absurd. We were 3-0 down before we had our first shot on target.


As I say, we needed things to go in our favour to have a decent chance. They haven’t. It isn’t an irrelevant point.


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long time gooner wrote:
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Another foul on Aubameyang

That’s not why we’re being taken to the cleaners though is it?

Put any mental pressure on these blokes and they fold. They did it in the EPL run in and again tonight. Give GG ten minutes to have a chat to them after what I think is a total debacle. In the first 10 minutes Aubameyang had a chance which he just couldn't be bothered actually doing anything. So forget about no service - he had a chance to start well and like the penalty against Spurs he folded. He is at home in this club - mentally weak.

I hope our supporters boo the *%^@ out of the team after the game. Paid a fortune they did for this.

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You feel for Bernard and all the other fans who've paid a fortune and no doubt travelled like cattle to get there. The club should reimburse all their expenses.
So pissed off with this fiasco.


No disrespect to Bernard, but this is the same team that shat their pants with six or seven games of the season left and a CL spot within their grasp. If the fans that travelled couldn't foresee the probability of this fiasco, well then...


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3 goals in 10 mins.

Anyone?


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Difference between a team who defends as a team and one who doesn’t. We needed to make more of it when we were on top in the first half. First goal was crucial. If we got it we set up a good platform for the rest of the game. If they got it we collapse


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3 goals in 10 mins.

Anyone?

They've got four already. Don't need them.


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Post #408856  Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:42 pm 
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Two massive chances. Lacazette and then Willock. Both should score.

Finishing difference massive as well


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Post #408857  Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:43 pm 
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Unlucky from Willock. Who called him having more impact than our highest earner he replaced? At least next year we can play the kids in the Europa and actually develop them.


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Act one in place. If we cheer for Liverpool on Saturday do you think we’ll jinx them?


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Two massive chances. Lacazette and then Willock. Both should score.

Finishing difference massive as well

When in a good position we seem to hit and hope not actually have the skill to do what they should be capable of doing. Willock really was a terrible miss

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You feel for Bernard and all the other fans who've paid a fortune and no doubt travelled like cattle to get there. The club should reimburse all their expenses.
So pissed off with this fiasco.


No disrespect to Bernard, but this is the same team that shat their pants with six or seven games of the season left and a CL spot within their grasp. If the fans that travelled couldn't foresee the probability of this fiasco, well then...

Too true. It’s why I set off watching this with no expectation of a win. I just wish that I had been wrong.

The problem is that it’s no surprise whatsoever. It encapsulates exactly what this side is all about.

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Two massive chances. Lacazette and then Willock. Both should score.

Finishing difference massive as well

When in a good position we seem to hit and hope not actually have the skill to do what they should be capable of doing. Willock really was a terrible miss


Of all the players on the field though he’s the easiest to forgive. He shouldn’t be anywhere near this final in reality. Long way back for us. Without a plan for investment I think it actually just can’t happen. Aren’t we supposed to have people running the club who understand business?


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Post #408862  Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:48 pm 
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Well that’s the first act of the nightmare well and truly enacted.


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Post #408863  Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:48 pm 
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Willock has done more in 10 minutes than Özil has done in 80.....or has done in the last 4 weeks


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long time gooner wrote:
Too true. It’s why I set off watching this with no expectation of a win. I just wish that I had been wrong.
The problem is that it’s no surprise whatsoever. It encapsulates exactly what this side is all about.

But for every shot me make on goal, we score 100 % of the time don't you know.


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Next season I see us struggling to fend off the Wolves' and Leicester's of this world.
With a miniscule transfer budget there's no way we're getting closer to the sides already above us. Depressing.


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bromley gooner wrote:
Next season I see us struggling to fend off the Wolves' and Leicester's of this world.
With a miniscule transfer budget there's no way we're getting closer to the sides already above us. Depressing.


It doesn’t look good. I don’t know if kroenke realises he’s expecting a series of Leicester level miracles for us to be good enough over the next few seasons to establish ourselves in the top 4 and be a champions league team if we can’t invest.

And they were 5000-1.


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I actually believe I will never see this team win an EPL or European trophy in my lifetime.

This was an absolutely disgraceful performance. None of the emerging midfielders have goals in them so they are not really proper options for the future.

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That was a piss poor attempt at a final. *%^@ me I thought Swindon and Leeds x 2 was bad. Ipswich WHU and Valencia in 3 years was bad. But that was a *%^@*** embarrassment. And against the Chavs. A *%^@*** horrible club.

Feeling very low tonight.

Čech saved two or three certainties.

So many players need to leave. So many just not good enough to wear the shirt

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And Mustafi didn’t even play...


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Embarrassing result for a club of Arsenal's stature. Only Arsenal could be the better side at halftime and end up losing 4-1.

Player's around the globe watching that debacle unfold are not going to be queuing up to join Arsenal I'm afraid.

Willock and Iwobi did more in 15 mins than Özil has done all season.

Kolasinic's final ball was just appalling.

So many late chances, just not clinical.

I said the difference between the sides could be who performed out of Hazard, Aubameyang and Lacazette and sadly Hazard put in a worldclass peformance on the biggest stage.

Those worrying about Čech should be grateful he played as they could have scored 8 but for him.


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Willock is definitely an interesting prospect.


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Felt like we played that game with 9 men. Kolasinac and Özil just consistently not having any impact on games.

Need to send the whole team to a psychologist because every time something goes against us we collectively lose the entire game in that instant by switching off and conceding again.

Based on our woeful defence and woeful finishing we deserved exactly what we got tonight. We also didn’t get the rub of the green with a couple of key decisions.

This was always going to be a do or die game, the season has to now be viewed as a complete failure. Small budget for the summer worries me less than the thought that Emery hasn’t really improved us defensively at all. There are certain things that money does get you but a basic grasp of team defence doesn’t need money it’s done on the training pitch.

It’s after nights like that that you realise how far back we were taken under the previous regime, mistake after mistake. All Emery has managed to do is stop the rot, but I don’t think we’ve moved forward


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Well that was *%^@, then again Kroenke is the owner so I expect no less.

Midtable next season, hopefully our 'asset value' drops and then we can be sold off to someone who gives a toss.

ZZZZ.. boring boring Arsenal.

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Goonie wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Next season I see us struggling to fend off the Wolves' and Leicester's of this world.
With a miniscule transfer budget there's no way we're getting closer to the sides already above us. Depressing.


We are still a good side. A couple of solid defenders need to be brought in. And just allow Özil to play in the league and FA cups comps.

Mate, If someone served you up a shite sandwich you would still see the positive - nice fresh bread.

I am a pessimist by nature so I don't see any future for most of the team including all those on the bench.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
I actually believe I will never see this team win an EPL or European trophy in my lifetime.

This was an absolutely disgraceful performance. None of the emerging midfielders have goals in them so they are not really proper options for the future.


Not that I’m really disagreeing or this is some ray of light but Nelson got 7 in a short time at Hoffenheim.


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We are still a good side. A couple of solid defenders need to be brought in. And just allow Özil to play in the league and FA cups comps.

Mate, If someone served you up a shite sandwich you would still see the positive - nice fresh bread.

I am a pessimist by nature so I don't see any future for most of the team including all those on the bench.


Individuals not good enough

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Nice looking trophy. Maybe we'll get some sort of participation ribbon of sorts.

Edit - Oooh - Looks like a medal - I think they're filled with chocolate.


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Nice looking trophy. Maybe we'll get some sort of participation ribbon of sorts.

Did we participate?

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Just to put things in perspective, a programme tonight about some poor lady in her thirties, completely crippled with arthritis and with three young kids. Poor hubby struggling to cope and no help available. That's real life.

That bunch of pansies that represented Arsenal football club tonight need to take a long hard look at themselves and the privileged life they enjoy.


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Goonie wrote:
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Next season I see us struggling to fend off the Wolves' and Leicester's of this world.
With a miniscule transfer budget there's no way we're getting closer to the sides already above us. Depressing.


We are still a good side. A couple of solid defenders need to be brought in. And just allow Özil to play in the league and FA cups comps.

No he has to be sold. Tonight had to be the final straw. He’s played exactly where he wants, as a 10 with two strikers, a total free role and doesn’t influence a thing. A teenager showed him up.
Sell Özil replace him in the squad with Willock and you immediately have an extra £18m in the transfer budget by shifting his wages.

Sad that Mkhitaryan wasn’t there tonight but he’s another not justifying his wage, that would be another £13m in the transfer kitty.

£31m plus whatever fee we get for them and no Özil or Mkhitaryan next year. Add in Čech, Welbeck, Ramsey wages and you add another £15m in the budget.

If we make the right decisions, promote the right youth players and buy the right players with the right attitude then there is hope.


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