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Post #394081  Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 6:57 pm 
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Certainly lost some painful cup finals in the red. Birmingham was embarrassing, Liverpool in the Owen final was daylight robbery.
We beat Villa in the cup final in the yellow. And obviously not cup finals but as good as Anfield 89, OT 98 overmars, OT 02 Wiltord.

It’s the right move to have a yellow away, that just feels like arsenal to be. Don’t really mind what they do with he third kit, something fun that sells well to younger fans usually works. The Nigeria World Cup kit was pretty psychedelic but had fans queued around the block trying to buy it. I think a proper rehash of bruised banana would have the same affect for Arsenal fans


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Bernard wrote:
... I'm sorry, I just don't like yellow as a colour. Cheap, nasty and lacking style.
Yes, it really spoiled watching Pele, Garrincha, Gerson, Tostao, Jair, Rivelinho, Socrates, Zico, Romario, Bebeto and Ronaldo...

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Post #394083  Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:45 pm 
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Still have time to make this happen. Maybe.

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old man of hoy wrote:
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... I'm sorry, I just don't like yellow as a colour. Cheap, nasty and lacking style.
Yes, it really spoiled watching Pele, Garrincha, Gerson, Tostao, Jair, Rivelinho, Socrates, Zico, Romario, Bebeto and Ronaldo...

Great players but their national team has a vile shirt.


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Still have time to make this happen. Maybe.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/talksport. ... aryan/amp/

Zero chance, sadly.


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Post #394086  Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 4:53 am 
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Completely off topic and random post but I heard this song earlier and it reminds me of Sunday drives with my father and him having the radio on to the '70s classic station and this song always seem to come on at some point those afternoons. One of, if not the, greatest sax riffs ever. Had no idea till I looked it up he is scottish and the song is for a street in London. Is it the same Baker Street of Sherlock Holmes fame?


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Post #394087  Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 5:59 am 
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Completely off topic and random post but I heard this song earlier and it reminds me of Sunday drives with my father and him having the radio on to the '70s classic station and this song always seem to come on at some point those afternoons. One of, if not the, greatest sax riffs ever. Had no idea till I looked it up he is scottish and the song is for a street in London. Is it the same Baker Street of Sherlock Holmes fame?


Yes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_Street_(song)

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Post #394088  Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 7:36 am 
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Arseblog gave a link to the second part of the Arsenal interview with Managing Director Vinai Venkatesham and Head of Football Raul Sanllehi.

He likened Sanllehi to a husky voiced Austin Powers and I just thought it was just hilarious.

It's actually a very good interview. Have a look and see what you think.

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Post #394089  Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 7:52 am 
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Wenger hints at not managing again. My guess and its only a guess, Wenger wanted to manage with similar parameters he had with us and he was not given assurances of that. I think he is not suited for the modern club football team. Football at the club level has changed a lot since he arrived on the scene. I think what may be his space is national football and even so it may not be at a top FIFA country. I'd be curious to see how he manages in that realm.

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And this : https://www.goal.com/en-au/news/i-want- ... gbr509ioi1

"I want to share what I've learned' - Wenger eyeing return but unsure about future role"


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And this : https://www.goal.com/en-au/news/i-want- ... gbr509ioi1

"I want to share what I've learned' - Wenger eyeing return but unsure about future role"

As long as it is nowhere’s near our club and the clusterf. he left behind.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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And this : https://www.goal.com/en-au/news/i-want- ... gbr509ioi1

"I want to share what I've learned' - Wenger eyeing return but unsure about future role"

As long as it is nowhere’s near our club and the clusterf. he left behind.

Well said Gaz. Fully agree.


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Post #394093  Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 11:39 am 
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Arse should Boycott Baku?

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/may/23/arsenal-henrikh-mkhitaryan-azerbaijan-baku-europa-league-final


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Bit late for that, surely? Estimates I've seen for Arsenal fans going range from 3k to 4.8k. Whatever the true figure is, thousands of us have spent upwards of a grand on tickets, a visa, and travel. I would be majorly peed off if Arsenal now pulled out the game, and I'm sure we all would.

What should happen is an independent investigation on UEFA's decision to choose such an unsuitable venue for the final. Because I'd be amazed if Sepp Blatter type bungs hadn't come into the equation.


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Bernard wrote:
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As long as it is nowhere’s near our club and the clusterf. he left behind.

Well said Gaz. Fully agree.

I'll third that. £90m wasted that we could be using now. Merci Arsene.

Hope all goes well with your trip to Baku by the way Bern.


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Well said Gaz. Fully agree.

I'll third that. £90m wasted that we could be using now. Merci Arsene.

Hope all goes well with your trip to Baku by the way Bern.

Thanks.


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Bernard wrote:
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I'll third that. £90m wasted that we could be using now. Merci Arsene.

Hope all goes well with your trip to Baku by the way Bern.

Thanks.

Bernard - I wish you a safe & enjoyable trip. Bring that trophy home

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Bernard wrote:
DHD wrote:

Bit late for that, surely? Estimates I've seen for Arsenal fans going range from 3k to 4.8k. Whatever the true figure is, thousands of us have spent upwards of a grand on tickets, a visa, and travel. I would be majorly peed off if Arsenal now pulled out the game, and I'm sure we all would.

What should happen is an independent investigation on UEFA's decision to choose such an unsuitable venue for the final. Because I'd be amazed if Sepp Blatter type bungs hadn't come into the equation.

Won't happen either way in support of Mkhitaryan, let alone late switch of venue to Wembley. Traveling fans to Baku won't be reimbursed for their troubles either. All in all, not worth incurring sanctions, bans from comps, fines.
Enjoy your trip to Baku Bern.

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Enjoy your trip to Baku Bern.

Thanks, and to everyone who has (or will) send similar posts.


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Bernard wrote:
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Enjoy your trip to Baku Bern.

Thanks, and to everyone who has (or will) send similar posts.

Hope it's a memorable trip Bernard :58big-emoticons:


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Callum chambers voted Fulham’s player of the season


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Callum chambers voted Fulham’s player of the season

Aqarently it's for his performances in midfield


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Some rumours tonight that leeds are going to be bought by PSG’s owners. Even richer that Man City’s owners. Bonkers.

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But I have always thought he was another player who is too slow. His turn is able to be easily shut down plus he can’t move box to box fast enough. We already have a number of those players. He played 31 games for Fulham for 2 goals and not one assist. He is now 24 and cost us a lot of money plus I expect he earns silly money for someone who can’t play in his proper position. The only reason to keep him is for the number of British players we need on our books.

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Post #394105  Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 10:29 am 
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Some rumours tonight that leeds are going to be bought by PSG’s owners. Even richer that Man City’s owners. Bonkers.


Meanwhile we're stuck with the wiggy b*stard who wont invest a penny and doesn't really care.. just shows there is no reward for 'behaving properly'. If it happens they'll be in the PL soon and probably breathing down our necks.

Football really is a joke these days - we've got two teams who between them haven't won a title in about 85 years contesting a 'champions league' final, and middle eastern states using football to white-wash their image.

What a load of b*llocks, glad I stopped wasting my time going to games etc. as it is just a f*cking pantomime these days.

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Happy St Michael’s Day, chums.


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Darren wrote:
Some rumours tonight that leeds are going to be bought by PSG’s owners. Even richer that Man City’s owners. Bonkers.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... stments/?u

LEEDS SAINT-GERMAIN? Leeds deny they are in talks with PSG owners Qatari Sports Investments following reports


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On this day in 1989. I obviously wasn't there but feel I was there in spirit. Every time I watch it, I'm nervous Thomas won't score. Crazy, I know.


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I'll cry far longer than a week. :1cry:

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Perish the thought they do win, but if so, I never, ever considered that within 15 years of the Invincibles, I'd see Chelsea and Spurs win a CL before we do.

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Kante is meant to be ruled out of the cup final. Loftus-cheek is also out.


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Perish the thought they do win, but if so, I never, ever considered that within 15 years of the Invincibles, I'd see Chelsea and Spurs win a CL before we do.
Though for my generation it was inconceivable that Spurs never won the European Cup, nor more than one league title. Their great side of the early 60s may well have won the big-eared jug if the competition had allowed four entrants as it does these days. Back then only the league champions were eligible. In 1962 they got to the European Cup semis, while we were vin ordinaire.
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Kante is meant to be ruled out of the cup final. Loftus-cheek is also out.

So no one has mentioned the elephant in the room. Giroud 13 games 10 goals and 3-4 assists in Europa this season. When you talk about undervalues when we sell players this was another classic. I know we had to make the Aubameyang deal happen but we got about half his value for Giroud. IMO it meant that the Aubameyang cost us another 15mil. I just wish we could have pushed them Wellbeck at the time instead of Giroud.

I just hope whoever we buy this offseason we do some due diligence on their injury history. We definitely can't afford another Suarez, Diaby, Wellbeck or Ramsay.

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Hey omoh, yes, I've read from you, Mee (RIP) and others about that early '60s side, what was it 'kick and run' tactic it was called, basically attacking football. Wasn't there a quote from a sperz player of that era who said something to the effect that The Arsenal were still the biggest side in London.

What I didn't know was that they got to the semis of the EC. I took a look at the bracket from this site
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961%E2%8 ... ropean_Cup

and they lost to eventual champions Benfica, who seem on another level. When you beat the Real Madrid of the '60s 5-3 in a final, you are very good.

What was it like as an Arsenal fan in those days (assuming you remember those days)? Must have been depressing, especially since we weren't good for a while.

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I predict if Ashley sells Newcastle to this bloke they will get a lot of overseas sponsorship and be easily able to outbid us for any players. If it comes true we should start being concerned about our lack of investment in the club.

https://www.givemesport.com/1478486-mik ... utoplay=on

IMO it is not good enough to say that we are self sustaining. You need to look at how the value of the club has improved. Most good corporations carry 20% debt level.
As the value of the club went up the owner should have been investing. Instead he has invested nothing in the club but the value has gone thru the roof. I don't buy the self sustaining BS.

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I don't buy the self sustaining BS.

I agree with you on this. I've said a few times, the self-sustaining strategy is used by the Kroenke regime to justify Stan, himself a multi-billionaire many times over, not putting a single cent or penny of his own money into the club.

My heart sank when I saw Josh say words to the effect of how much he respects the club's traditions, which I took to mean the self-sustaining strategy. Hence I don't expect anything to change when Stan kicks the bucket.


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Hey omoh, yes, I've read from you, Mee (RIP) and others about that early '60s side, what was it 'kick and run' tactic it was called, basically attacking football. Wasn't there a quote from a sperz player of that era who said something to the effect that The Arsenal were still the biggest side in London.

What I didn't know was that they got to the semis of the EC. I took a look at the bracket from this site
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961%E2%8 ... ropean_Cup

and they lost to eventual champions Benfica, who seem on another level. When you beat the Real Madrid of the '60s 5-3 in a final, you are very good.

What was it like as an Arsenal fan in those days (assuming you remember those days)? Must have been depressing, especially since we weren't good for a while.
Hi AG - it was the early 50s Spurs side under Arthur Rowe that played 'push and run' which was a very attractive 'one-two' style. Good enough to win the First Division, as it was known then. A decade later, under Bill Nicholson, who had been in Rowe's team, Spurs had a perfect combination of players and were a great side. I can't remember being depressed at all by football in those days - it was just sport and not a matter of life and death. One regret though was the way Arsenal missed out on three of Tottenham's finest men - Blanchflower, Jones and Mackay - all of whom we decided not to buy. We were tight around the pound note in that era while other clubs spent big.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
I predict if Ashley sells Newcastle to this bloke they will get a lot of overseas sponsorship and be easily able to outbid us for any players. If it comes true we should start being concerned about our lack of investment in the club.

https://www.givemesport.com/1478486-mik ... utoplay=on

IMO it is not good enough to say that we are self sustaining. You need to look at how the value of the club has improved. Most good corporations carry 20% debt level.
As the value of the club went up the owner should have been investing. Instead he has invested nothing in the club but the value has gone thru the roof. I don't buy the self sustaining BS.


Haha thats all we need, Qatar and more UAE money coming into the league, while we get shifted further and further down the pecking order, the self-sustaining thing was always a positive PR spin term for KSE not investing any money, anyone who thought otherwise was lets just say 'naive'.

Lets just hope the PL spending rules and UEFA's toothless FFP stop these billionaires from doping their clubs too much otherwise we will be firmly midtable within the next 4-5 years.

I do wonder how ST sales will go if we fail to get in the CL, must be getting to the point now where there is no (somewhat mythical) waiting list.

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Hey omoh, yes, I've read from you, Mee (RIP) and others about that early '60s side, what was it 'kick and run' tactic it was called, basically attacking football. Wasn't there a quote from a sperz player of that era who said something to the effect that The Arsenal were still the biggest side in London.

What I didn't know was that they got to the semis of the EC. I took a look at the bracket from this site
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961%E2%8 ... ropean_Cup

and they lost to eventual champions Benfica, who seem on another level. When you beat the Real Madrid of the '60s 5-3 in a final, you are very good.

What was it like as an Arsenal fan in those days (assuming you remember those days)? Must have been depressing, especially since we weren't good for a while.
Hi AG - it was the early 50s Spurs side under Arthur Rowe that played 'push and run' which was a very attractive 'one-two' style. Good enough to win the First Division, as it was known then. A decade later, under Bill Nicholson, who had been in Rowe's team, Spurs had a perfect combination of players and were a great side. I can't remember being depressed at all by football in those days - it was just sport and not a matter of life and death. One regret though was the way Arsenal missed out on three of Tottenham's finest men - Blanchflower, Jones and Mackay - all of whom we decided not to buy. We were tight around the pound note in that era while other clubs spent big.

I suppose we were self sustaining model 101

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
I predict if Ashley sells Newcastle to this bloke they will get a lot of overseas sponsorship and be easily able to outbid us for any players. If it comes true we should start being concerned about our lack of investment in the club.

https://www.givemesport.com/1478486-mik ... utoplay=on

IMO it is not good enough to say that we are self sustaining. You need to look at how the value of the club has improved. Most good corporations carry 20% debt level.
As the value of the club went up the owner should have been investing. Instead he has invested nothing in the club but the value has gone thru the roof. I don't buy the self sustaining BS.


Haha thats all we need, Qatar and more UAE money coming into the league, while we get shifted further and further down the pecking order, the self-sustaining thing was always a positive PR spin term for KSE not investing any money, anyone who thought otherwise was lets just say 'naive'.

Lets just hope the PL spending rules and UEFA's toothless FFP stop these billionaires from doping their clubs too much otherwise we will be firmly midtable within the next 4-5 years.

I do wonder how ST sales will go if we fail to get in the CL, must be getting to the point now where there is no (somewhat mythical) waiting list.

On one of the podcasts they were saying that after a visit to the US by our top boys they came back with no idea whether we would increase the transfer budget even if we got CL. Kroenkes would not commit. I trust these pricks as much as I trust politicians. Arthur Daley looks like an honest person compared to them.

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