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Post #488561  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:30 pm 
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Don’t you remember his first 2 seasons? He finished 8th in his first season

Their defence was all over the place like we are and they were doing the whole “outscoring thing” with their opponents as we do.

It took them a couple of years to get back on track


Actually Klopp did far worse in his first season than Emery is doing.

He might end up doing better than Klopp this season too, if Klopp ends up empty handed and we win the Europa :laughing7: (touch wood)

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Post #488562  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:34 pm 
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"Barcelona loanee Denis Suarez will also not feature again this season due to persistent groin trouble."

I think you could say that about a few of our players actually.

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Post #488563  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:01 pm 
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Guendouzi is a big gamble in a game of this magnitude. Fingers crossed he has a great game.


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Post #488564  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:13 pm 
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Pathetic defending again.


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Post #488565  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:14 pm 
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5 at the back. And not a single defender amongst them.

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Post #488566  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:15 pm 
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Shocking

They didn’t even want to just jump

3 re%$#^s on our back post. That’s our season over


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Post #488567  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:15 pm 
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And why play Čech?

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Post #488568  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:16 pm 
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Well you can’t say we weren’t warned. They did that exact set piece moments before. It feels like Arsenal defenders go out on the pitch with a set of orders but when anything falls outside that set of orders they are either unable to react or adapt or make the wrong decision in reacting or adapting.
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Post #488569  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:17 pm 
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Don’t want to make excuses, but there’s no confidence in our play at all.

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Post #488570  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:17 pm 
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Even if your *%^@ at defending you can’t sacrifice a midfielder for an extra defender cause you won’t control the game

We are waiting for emery to change it


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Post #488571  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:19 pm 
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Btw this is done

Finished


We blew it. Emery *%^@** this one up


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Post #488572  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:21 pm 
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Once again we look like we’re facing a team where every arsenal players opposing man is quicker and stronger


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Post #488573  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:21 pm 
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Lacazette 1-1 very much needed!


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If you play 5 defenders at home you will let them dominate


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Post #488575  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:29 pm 
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Lacazette 2-1 great header!


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TOP GUN wrote:
Btw this is done

Finished


We blew it. Emery *%^@** this one up

2-1. Are you sure TG?


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Post #488577  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:31 pm 
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bromley gooner wrote:
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Btw this is done

Finished


We blew it. Emery *%^@** this one up

2-1. Are you sure TG?


I still don’t believe it. We need another 1 or 2

There’s no clean sheet in Valencia


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Enjoying a ref who actually understands the advantage rule


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The lack of mobility and acceleration in central midfield (and the team in general) is a worry. Right on half time Xhaka made a good tackle, turned to get the ball he’d won and by the time he’d done that the Valencia player he’d tackled had run around him and forced Xhaka to foul him.


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Hope Lacazette gets his third in the second, for his hattrick. We need a two-goal cushion, at the least. Come on Gunners!

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2-1. Are you sure TG?


I still don’t believe it. We need another 1 or 2

There’s no clean sheet in Valencia

I'm just hoping for a clean sheet in the 2nd half for a start.

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The Mkhitaryan for Özil sub makes no sense. Kos is clearly struggling. He has to come off. Özil was quietly effective.

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Post #488583  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 8:46 pm 
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No wonder these players are crap. Why did Emery clap Xhaka’s pitiful attempt then?

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And I was just about to write that I think Kolasinac is completely useless

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Post #488585  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 8:51 pm 
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Massive goal. 3-1 Aubameyang :21encouragement: :21encouragement:


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Post #488586  Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 8:58 pm 
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Well how in the world did we do that?? Also footballers covering get their mouths when they talk makes them look like self important twats.


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Kind of feels like we got out of jail a bit. I don't think 2-1 would have been enough but 3-1 is a reasonable advantage.

Terrific comeback but we also missed some sitters, as did Valencia.

Lacazette brilliant but missed two sitters, Aubameyang also excellent. Take those two out of our team and we are very, very average.

I thought the subs were odd, Torreira was the correct player to bring on but Guendouzi was enjoying his best spell in the game.

Mika for Özil another odd one, Özil was having one of his better games.

AMN was very good as well.

Why on earth at 2-1 up did we keep playing 2 v 2 at the back?. I sometimes think we have some of the thickest footballers on the planet.

I try hard to like Xhaka but I just can't.


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Kind of feels like we got out of jail a bit. I don't think 2-1 would have been enough but 3-1 is a reasonable advantage.

Terrific comeback but we also missed some sitters, as did Valancia.

Lacazette brilliant but missed two sitters, Aubameyang also excellent. Take those two out of our team and we are very, very average.

I wonder if we'll get to test that hypothesis this weekend ...

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Normally, I'd be confident 3-1 is a decent enough scoreline going into a 2nd leg, along with fairly decent away form in the competition winning at Sporting Lisbon and Napoli but due to our recent form, I can't be over-confident. Slightly confident is what I am. If they score first, I'll get nervous because I can see a 2-0 scoreline happening. Big question for me is can we get 1 goal? 2 will be better. But if we can score in the 1st half it should leave us space for the counter.

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I like it that Xhaka has been sending through balls for Aubameyang to run onto. We should be looking to do this more often.

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And I was just about to write that I think Kolasinac is completely useless


Useless for 90 min, then that pass for Aubameyang. Still, not good enough for the day, 3/10.

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Post #488592  Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 6:23 am 
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That 3rd goal so vital. At 2-1 I’m not sure I fancied us. Of course we can score over there but Emery mustn’t over think it, we must go to score.
Last night we had
Decent gk
Shambles in defence
Slow, lack of mobility in midfield
Strikers who can bail us out

Seems like most of our season


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I liked our second goal last night mainly because we don’t score those types of goals but we should be able to get more. Good quality early ball in to the box and a striker who has better movement than the defender. Height or strength doesn’t come in to it when you have an early ball and good movement.

The best exponents of this are Liverpool, full backs slinging in cross after cross and Mané mostly getting between defenders to finish. Would love to see us do more of this. Our play tends to cut back inside from wide positions or try to get to the byline for the cut back cross


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I hope somehow Chelsea will lose the semi as unlikely as it seems right now. I don't think we can beat them in the final if we meet.
Mathematically we are out of the top 4. If we end up 5th, the Europa final will mean for us than it will for Chelsea will already have qualified. Its a European trophy so obviously they will be up for it as well as it being a rival. We will have more on the line though. I just don't trust ourselves to step up. Imagine the indignity of Chelsea denying us CL twice over? :1cry: Unless I misunderstand how it works. If Chelsea gets 4th and win the Europa, then who goes?

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I realise they got an away goal but had I been offered a 3-1 win before the game I'd have taken it. We're more than capable of scoring out there. A two goal margin from the home leg; I'm happy enough with that. A dodgy start at the back with Valencia missing a really good chance then scoring. But after that I thought we did okay defensively.


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I realise they got an away goal but had I been offered a 3-1 win before the game I'd have taken it. We're more than capable of scoring out there. A two goal margin from the home leg; I'm happy enough with that. A dodgy start at the back with Valencia missing a really good chance then scoring. But after that I thought we did okay defensively.

I think it’s on okay result but I just never trust the dynamic of European ties where you give away an away goal.

If we can lose 3 nil at Leicester we can lose 2 nil in Valencia


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I was watching Koscielny quite carefully last night. He seemed really uncomfortable. He seemed OK for challenges, indeed I thought he played really well, but as soon as the ball was cleared, he was feeling his calf and ankle, limping, stretching and visibly wincing. I think he may indeed be *%^@**. That’s sad.

I was also watching Mesut Özil quite carefully. He strolled through the evening, making little or no effort to track back or get involved. Another phoned-in performance - the latest of many. No wonder he has no desire to leave next season. Split nail? Bad back? Runny poo? Not in the squad? Not picked? Who cares! He enjoys the easiest of lives. £50,000 per day for that? He is a bluffer. For £20m per season, I expect to see some semblance of an effort and some attempt to influence the game. When he joined us, he definitely had something about him - a bit of an aura backed up by skill, invention and silky movement. But that's all long gone. With no disrespect to those who still see something in him that I just don't, I wish he'd just *%^@ off. As soon as, please.


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I was watching Koscielny quite carefully last night. He seemed really uncomfortable. He seemed OK for challenges, indeed I thought he played really well, but as soon as the ball was cleared, he was feeling his calf and ankle, limping, stretching and visibly wincing. I think he may indeed be *%^@**. That’s sad.

I was also watching Mesut Özil quite carefully. He strolled through the evening, making little or no effort to track back or get involved. Another phoned-in performance - the latest of many. No wonder he has no desire to leave next season. Split nail? Bad back? Runny poo? Not in the squad? Not picked? Who cares! He enjoys the easiest of lives. £50,000 per day for that? He is a bluffer. For £20m per season, I expect to see some semblance of an effort and some attempt to influence the game. When he joined us, he definitely had something about him - a bit of an aura backed up by skill, invention and silky movement. But that's all long gone. With no disrespect to those who still see something in him that I just don't, I wish he'd just *%^@ off. As soon as, please.


Very sad to see another of our better players' careers coming to an apparent early end. Despite his not being as good as he was, we'll miss Kos nearly as much as we missed Santi imo.

The Özil thing. He is thoroughly selfish, vain and arrogant. I agree he should *%^@ right off.

Problem is, we have no-one else like him who can play a through ball.

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I was trying to explain (for about the hundredth time) to my Dad about the away goals rule. He used to know it, but at the grand old age of 94, he struggles to remember things.

But we both agreed that whilst conceding an away goal wasn't good, we're more than capable of scoring one or more over there. So that 3rd goal was a vital one, obviously.

And, amidst all the doom and gloom, is it worth reminding ourselves that we are 3:1 up in a European semi final? Or have we become a little bit like Chelsea or Man Utd fans, who are arrogant enough expect to win all the time?

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john1 wrote:
I was trying to explain (for about the hundredth time) to my Dad about the away goals rule. He used to know it, but at the grand old age of 94, he struggles to remember things.

But we both agreed that whilst conceding an away goal wasn't good, we're more than capable of scoring one or more over there. So that 3rd goal was a vital one, obviously.

And, amidst all the doom and gloom, is it worth reminding ourselves that we are 3:1 up in a European semi final? Or have we become a little bit like Chelsea or Man Utd fans, who are arrogant enough expect to win all the time?
Yes, a 3-1 first-leg win shouldn't be sniffed at. Usually to win in Valencia is a very big ask of most teams, but to get a draw is not unrealistic - in La Liga this season I think Valencia have drawn many times at home. Fingers crossed.

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