Surely you just did?

Go on, we won't tell anybody...

Yeah Hodd, don't go all mysterious on us. You'd have been better off saying nothing. We'd have assumed you scrolled by TGs post (as most of us do I suspect).
PM me and I'll pass it on to Socrates and he can post is as itk information, he likes to think he knows what he's talking about ...tweak....

Maybe I'm overeading this but when Gazidis said it was "a catalyst for change" it seems he wasn't kidding. Backroom staff gone, Wenger gone and now coaching / medical staff gone too. A full overhaul well overdue. Sadly I think most of the real freeloading players who cruised under Wenger are already gone.

I think a new manager has a few things to deal with for sure but if they can drill some basic tactics into our lot then we'd be 50% better of straight away.

Thanks, Hodd. Just PM John and the rest will look after itself - that'd be great.

Around 20 hours and he’s history guys ,

This is what it must of felt like when the Berlin Wall fell

I’ve put a bottle of champers in the fridge am uncorking it around 5.30 tomorrow ( we’ll his farewell interview are bound to go on a while , the old scrote will be reluctant to vacate the stage)

How long have many of us waited for this day ?

What is it about Arteta that is special. Pep just wouldn't surround himself with just anyone. If this article is accurate he's knowledgeable. Good at what he does and clearly we (the fans) are missing something. If he is as good as they say, then I will trust their judgement.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... rival-max/

Telegraph Sport revealed in December how Arteta, who has been working as Pep Guardiola’s assistant at Manchester City, was viewed as a future Arsenal manager and Wenger takes charge of his last Gunners game against Huddersfield Town on Sunday.

City would fight to try to keep Arteta, who is treasured by Guardiola, and could offer him a new contract, but they are unlikely to stand in his way if he is offered the Arsenal job and expresses a desire to take it.

Allegri’s management CV with Juventus makes him a strong contender, but there is a growing feeling that Arteta may fit Arsenal’s structure better and that his knowledge of the club and the Premier League makes up for his relative inexperience.

There have been talks within the club over how a young coach could help energise the Gunners and 36-year-old Arteta is 14 years younger than Allegri.

There also remains a fear that, despite his desire to work in England, Allegri will ultimately opt to stay one more year at Juventus or hold out for a more lucrative Premier League job.

Wenger’s successor will only have a transfer budget of £50million to work with this summer, as well as any money he can raise from sales.

That is significantly less than the likes of Allegri or Enrique would expect to be given to try to turn Arsenal into Premier League challengers, but Arteta is already aware of the financial restrictions at the Emirates.

Other than being highly rated by Gazidis, Arteta is close to Per Mertesacker, who is taking over as Academy manager and who will be expected to work closely with Arsenal’s next first-team manager.

The obvious risk in going for Areta is the fact Arsenal would be his first job in management, but the Kroenkes have already proved they are willing to trust an inexperienced candidate.

Stan and Josh Kroenke have seen 32-year-old coach Sean McVay succeed with their NFL club, Los Angeles Rams and may see that as a blueprint for Arsenal.

McVay became the youngest head coach in NFL history, when, aged 30, he was handed the LA Rams job in January 2017.

He was a breath of fresh air, and provided the most sustained period of quality football I’ve witnessed at our Club. Showed loyalty to his players which at times seemed misplaced. My belief is he was misled by those that controlled the purse strings. Became stale in recent years and undoubtedly let down by his squad. Time to go but the highlights far outweigh the low points.

End of an era and thanks for the memories, regards the low points, *%^@ happens..... get over it.

Merci

It's fine to be all tra la la la thanks for the memories now he is actually going ...but the " get over it **&^%% happens routine " ....... what a crock of sh**t .

We haven't won an away game this year , played mind numbingly boring possessional football .... if it wasn't for a few you advise to get over it ; getting their nuts in a knot and protesting etc .......... the posing plonker would be with us for another year .

No need for the crass post from Pete either Kiwipete. No comment on that?

I am just glad the season is almost over. After 3 games we had conceded 8 goals and lost 2 games. The EPL season was over for us at that time.

I can think of only a couple of games where we have played sparkling football and I am just glad we will make a new start next year. I do not think we are in a better condition than when we started the season.

Like a marriage that has reached the last days, time to move out and we need to change the locks. Yep the early days (honeymoon period) were fantastic, the middle was some good times and the end was just painful. For all those younger fans who have never known another manager you might find it will be nice to have another honeymoon period.

I am sorry I cannot agree with your views that he was misled by those who controlled the purse strings.

Wenger always wanted to prove that you did not need to spend money to win the title. He would have been telling the board he did not need big money. He should have been telling the board I will walk unless you invest. We had a Russian part owner who wanted to put money in. He needed to be aggressive and go to the press. But he wanted to do the 'Leicester'. He had the power.

Instead he misread many situations and because he was all of the positions in the club he helped cause the problem.

Sure Niall ... happy to oblige ...... Beachboy Pete's opinion as unpalatable as you might find it is expressing his own view , Babu , Gaz haven't minced words either

The main point I'm making to Parker is ; had everyone taken the line "Remember the Invincibles , the Glory Years blah blah get over yourself .....we wouldn't had change .

Arsene would have stayed next year and maybe signed an extension to that .

I wont be cracking open the rum bottle as he exits because I'm saddened it had to come to this , he shouldn't have been sacked , he should have been told where he was going wrong and given a chance to correct it .

The board is just as culpable as Wenger for this mess .

Fair post.

I can't recall who we were strongly linked with at the time (was it Robson?) but whomever it is, there is no way we would have had the success we had from '98 to '04 and the FA Cups after. We wouldn't have and if someone says "you can't say that, you don't know"....no, I know. It wouldn't have and if in some alternate universe the manager we were associated with would have won a title maybe....and thats a big maybe or an FA Cup or two, and kept us competitive, I wouldn't trade it for what Wenger brought, warts (last several years) and all.

Its clearly time to go but the good times were fantastic. They were envied even from the fans of the biggest clubs in the world. The Arsenal and Brazil were uttered in the same sentence at one point.

Time for a new era.

I'm ecstatic ! Waited too long for this day to come.

How do you know we wouldn't have gotten a better manager, who will adapt to the changes in the game after Chelsea and City got their financial backers?
How do you know we wouldn't get a manager who is tactically more astute and will respond to the type of opposition we are playing?
How do you know we wouldn't have a manager who will listen to his (for that matter, could be her) fans and make the necessary star purchases which we always needed (Don't you recall we were always a position or two short, season after season. And in these final years, an entire defensive outfit short).
How do you know we wouldn't have a manager who will keep the star players, instead of letting them go.

In short, what makes you believe that you know best? (Even better than Wenger?). AKB will now be AmericanGooner Knows Best!

Me too. Wenger didn't do what he needed to when he could have. He'd been riding his luck for more than half a decade and now the chances and his time is up. Even if the new manager makes mistakes, at least they won't be so boringly predictable.

Must be f.....en joking - Brendan Rogers should be manager according to Merson
https://www.thesportreview.com/2018/05/ ... w-manager/

I wonder which players we would have gotten had we went with a different manager. No Henry, Vieira, Pires, Fabregas probably but that doesn't mean we wouldn't have had others we would come to know and love.

As for adjusting to Chelsea we would have been moving into the stadium no matter what and so short of funds so Chelsea would still have been ahead of us. I think we'd have had a better record possibly against them.

I can't see any situatioin where we the first several years would be better. The last several? Yes, but not the first several years.

Precisely.

You pays your money you takes your choice , one persons hero is another persons plank. Arsene Wenger was a brilliant manager once but hasn’t been for half a generation ( in the opinion of many who don’t buy into all this ridiculous send off %%&) , he became ( with the help of compliant bosses) the master at doing just enough to keep the coffers jingling ! . And very skilfull at getting everyone to not question him too closely by creating an air of reverence ( in twenty years...... yak, yak’! Etc), occasionally if someone breaches that and dares follow up beyond banalities - Jacqui Oakley and jake Humphrey’s spring to mind - the mask slipped and charming, courteous old Arsene wasn’t quite the whole picture, unfortunately the media were too in awe or scared of losing access to do it too often

I'd rather Rogers than Arteta believe it or not. I'm more than aware about the David Brent style quotes but I have a horrible feeling that it's going to be Arteta with Mertesacker as his assistant. Whilst they would have my complete support and SYMPATHY i can't see how they are qualified to be the management team of Arsenal football club

Yes a great day in prospect. Our last with the Wenger

I will always remember his tenure in roughly 2 parts the first half being when he was the best manager in the world the 2nd when he grossly mismanaged not just the team but whole club. Like I said previously I think some of the things that made Arsene great hurt him later on.

It's not right to tell someone they are being crass when they are just saying how they feel and some of the Praise for Arsene has been great but had an elephant in the room feeling about it. In particular I thought the presentation of the golden invincible trophy seemed too nostalgic. What's that quote "..............when you have no future try to live in the past? (Or something like that! )

It’s ok TG niall’s had it in for me since 2011 when I suggested we got “ in Arsene we rust “ t shirts made up

Actually that proved to be largely prophetic as it turned out

I couldn't see anything crass about Pete's post either. He's opening a bottle of Champagne to celebrate the Wenger nightmare (my words, not his) ending. At our house we celebrated by opening a bottle of fine Bordeaux on the day his then forthcoming departure was confirmed, simply because our youngest daughter (who also hates Wenger) is the only one of us who likes sparkling wine. We have Champagne at weddings and events like that, but in my view Champagne is over-rated and over-priced. It isn't crass to say you're opening a bottle to celebrate. I didn't see anything crass about his reference to the Berlin wall coming down either.

Actually one of the guys on OG forum likened it to Paris the night before the allies arrived : so I toned it down , re champagne my wife is a bit of an expert ( she used to be in the trade ) so we often have it around , personally I agree with you , but still drink it if around

Dennis Nilsen, the famous serial killer, died yesterday. Coincidentally there was a documentary on him yesterday, pre-planned so not shown because of his death.

And you know what!!

I’ll also drink to my small role in this , and the other boys on the OG forum who did far more than I did last year with organising planes, light projections and ofcourse marches. Around much hostility and apathy from others ( plus some of those guys had been holding banners at away games for a good few years prior, and getting verbally and physically abused in the bargain). Whilst we didn’t win the battle initially, we put protest in the media and shone a light on the situation which clearly led to the events of this season

Don’t agree one iota with Pete’s post but as he says, it’s his choice. Wenger will always be a hero to me.

Bernard, my mum lived on Melrose Avenue in Crickkewood for a bit when she was a young girl, which was one of roads Dennis Nielson lived and killed on.

I also think it may be Arteta. The one I’d like though is Nagelsmann. I don’t have a problem with either though. It’s not brain surgery after all.

Fair dues as I’ve said for years , i’ll Give a proper considered judgement on how I see Wenger two years from the day he leaves , which is ofcourse today

I don't necessarily have a problem with Arteta as a person but out of all the options I think it's the most illogical. It's based on a personal relationship with him and Gazidis not if he's qualified and I fear if he was appointed we would be looking for another new manager within 2 years. Even Vieira or Henry would be preferable to me. The way Mertesacker was standing directly next to Arsene in front of everyone when he was addressing everyone in the photos of the last training session seemed to indicate something to me but I may be reading too much into it.


Funny you mentioned it's not brain surgery, Wenger did a great job over the last few years convincing everybody it absolutely was.

He’s made it much harder than it needs to be certainly. I just have a hunch that there’s something about Arteta. I don’t really mind who gets the job. Just something new is enough for me, for now at least.

He actually did more murders at Melrose Avenue than Cranley Gardens. My parents lived in Muswell Hill before moving to Totteridge. Not in Cranley Gardens but not far at all. A short walk.