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Post #316281  Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:52 am 
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Very harsh that from Oliver, usually a good ref.

two absolutely stupid fouls. It is not as if they were bearing down on goal. So many players lack even any basic football nous. I am pretty sure that Mustafi and a few others on the field are not the ones to impart it. For instance Iwobi continues to run down blind alleys, stupid fouls, failure to stay on your feet it just goes on and on. Mental strength of a soft marshmallow. Otherwise all is going okay.

The first one was a good foul it stopped a dangerous counter attack. Don't often see a yellow brandished after 7 minutes but can5 complain about it really.

Second one of course a foul but player was just a little late after a miscontrol. Leicester still had the ball in a dangerous enough position. Not every foul is a yellow. I think that should have been a warning, not as if Niles had been making fouls all half. Harsh decision imo.

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Even before the booking I thought we were outclassed in every area of the pitch. Leicester were quicker, stronger, more aggressive and even played more incisive football.

Mika and Iwobi are just lightweights, Torreira and Xhaka are unable to control the midfield even against moderate opposition and our defence is just hopeless. How many free headers did Leicester get?

The sending off has just been the icing on a pretty stale cake.


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The BBC seem to agree both yellows were a joke. Particularly as Ndidi only got a yellow for studs half way up Xhaka's leg - not saying that's a red but far far worse than either of AMN's


I thought both yellows were probably yellows in the context of what you get yellows for these days.


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The BBC seem to agree both yellows were a joke. Particularly as Ndidi only got a yellow for studs half way up Xhaka's leg - not saying that's a red but far far worse than either of AMN's

Agree, Sky saying harsh as well.

Somehow still at 0-0 but don't fancy us holding out long into second half. Our passing and movement is woeful. Still had a great chance via Iwobis effort but it was tame again.

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two absolutely stupid fouls. It is not as if they were bearing down on goal. So many players lack even any basic football nous. I am pretty sure that Mustafi and a few others on the field are not the ones to impart it. For instance Iwobi continues to run down blind alleys, stupid fouls, failure to stay on your feet it just goes on and on. Mental strength of a soft marshmallow. Otherwise all is going okay.

The first one was a good foul it stopped a dangerous counter attack. Don't often see a yellow brandished after 7 minutes but can5 complain about it really.

Second one of course a foul but player was just a little late after a miscontrol. Leicester still had the ball in a dangerous enough position. Not every foul is a yellow. I think that should have been a warning, not as if Niles had been making fouls all half. Harsh decision imo.

I know what you mean. But when you watch City you will see how many times their players do not foul but just try and shut down the play. A lot of our fouls are lazy players just not wanting to keep tracking the player, panic from having lost the ball or a foul demonstrates their slow reactions. Maybe it is because they lack the skills. If so then we need to get rid of them.

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two absolutely stupid fouls. It is not as if they were bearing down on goal. So many players lack even any basic football nous. I am pretty sure that Mustafi and a few others on the field are not the ones to impart it. For instance Iwobi continues to run down blind alleys, stupid fouls, failure to stay on your feet it just goes on and on. Mental strength of a soft marshmallow. Otherwise all is going okay.

The first one was a good foul it stopped a dangerous counter attack. Don't often see a yellow brandished after 7 minutes but can5 complain about it really.

Second one of course a foul but player was just a little late after a miscontrol. Leicester still had the ball in a dangerous enough position. Not every foul is a yellow. I think that should have been a warning, not as if Niles had been making fouls all half. Harsh decision imo.

I know what you mean. But when you watch City you will see how many times their players do not foul but just try and shut down the play. A lot of our fouls are lazy players just not wanting to keep tracking the player, panic from having lost the ball or a foul demonstrates their slow reactions. Maybe it is because they lack the skills. If so then we need to get rid of them.

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Even before the booking I thought we were outclassed in every area of the pitch. Leicester were quicker, stronger, more aggressive and even played more incisive football.

Mika and Iwobi are just lightweights, Torreira and Xhaka are unable to control the midfield even against moderate opposition and our defence is just hopeless. How many free headers did Leicester get?

The sending off has just been the icing on a pretty stale cake.

At least Leno looked okay today. Can't disagree with much of all the other things you say.

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A point would be a good result now with United to play Chelsea later.

Kos on here for Iwobi.

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What is Mustafi doing there well out of position.

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General demeanor and body language of most of the players from the start said there is no sense of urgency. If we score, and its hard to see that happening, it may be from a moment of individual brilliance rather than a well built up team display.

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Ever since Santi Cazorla went out injured and Xhaka came into our midfield we have never been able to control the middle of the park. Coquelin and Santi was a more effective combination when what we have right now. What I’d give to have an even aged Cazorla back in our side.


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So 10 minutes of the half, Kos an absolute stupid ball, Mustafi anywhere and totally under the pump , Xhaka with a stupid shot - totally lacking skill and another Xhaka loose touch, no pace in the team. So that is the experienced players - need I say more. Aubameyang has little pace. Do they ever practice 10 agaisnt 11 or 9 against 11 or can't they bother. The send off will give them an excuse.

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And any points slip further away .... :1cry:


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Kroenke OUT

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Good goal by Leicester to be fair, Madisson picking up some dangerous positions now.

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We have a full complement of defenders BUT. Where was Kos? So much for marshalling the defense. Can you imagine this team in the CL?

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Got to go 4-4-1 surely and try and get Aubameyang in on a counter.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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We have a full complement of defenders BUT. Where was Kos? So much for marshalling the defense. Can you imagine this team in the CL?

Yes but the vision is not a good one.

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Lets think Watford one man down and they put it to us. For three times that wages they just can't bother at Arsenal

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I’d swap Xhaka for Tielemans in a heartbeat.

I’d swap any of our creative midfielders for Maddison.

Leicester have better midfielders than us.

The reality hits. We just aren’t that good


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Gaz from Oz wrote:
So 10 minutes of the half, Kos an absolute stupid ball, Mustafi anywhere and totally under the pump , Xhaka with a stupid shot - totally lacking skill and another Xhaka loose touch, no pace in the team. So that is the experienced players - need I say more. Aubameyang has little pace. Do they ever practice 10 agaisnt 11 or 9 against 11 or can't they bother. The send off will give them an excuse.

I think Sokratis has been our worst player today, who you don't mention. He and Koscielny left the goalscorer in acres of space.


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After reconsidering I think Emery should be sacked.

He's had this team for long enough to make a difference and we look completely *%^@ in every department.


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So 10 minutes of the half, Kos an absolute stupid ball, Mustafi anywhere and totally under the pump , Xhaka with a stupid shot - totally lacking skill and another Xhaka loose touch, no pace in the team. So that is the experienced players - need I say more. Aubameyang has little pace. Do they ever practice 10 agaisnt 11 or 9 against 11 or can't they bother. The send off will give them an excuse.

I think Sokratis has been our worst player today, who you don't mention. He and Koscielny left the goalscorer in acres of space.

I agree he has been ordinary. It is just we seem to have this idea that Kos is our saviour. Unfortunately he is part of the problem.

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I’d swap Xhaka for Tielemans in a heartbeat.

I’d swap any of our creative midfielders for Maddison.

Leicester have better midfielders than us.

The reality hits. We just aren’t that good


I'd take Mark Noble over any of this current lot.


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After reconsidering I think Emery should be sacked.

He's had this team for long enough to make a difference and we look completely *%^@ in every department.

Thats a bit harsh. I will give him until the end of the next transfer window. If Mustafi, Xhaka, Kos and a few others are still at the club I will call for his head.

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After reconsidering I think Emery should be sacked.

He's had this team for long enough to make a difference and we look completely *%^@ in every department.


Really ? This is what I mean when I say Emery is on a hiding to nothing.

Completely lop sided squad.

a bunch of creative midfielders only good for making sausages out of.

I hope he gets another year and totally dismantles the squad this summer. This is the most mediocre arsenal side for some time.


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despite being shite I still think we will get at least one big chance before the end.Depends who it falls to as to whether we can take that smirk off Rodgers face.

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Torreira gets Evans' elbow in the face in the penalty area and Vardy gives Sokratis a sly kick in the ribs.


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How many of the Leicester players would walk into our first 11?

Easily Maguire, Chilwell, Tielemans and Maddison. That’s 4, surely that’s an indication of the strength of our squad and how far we have slipped.


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Kroenke OUT

Nothing else worth saying.


That's not an option....unfortunately. I've said years ago, we are stuck with the family for a very, very long time. When the old man passes, we will just have to hope his son, Josh, takes more of an interest.

I recall a few years back I said if we win things its despite Kroenke not because of and got slated for it. Hate being right.

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TOP GUN wrote:
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After reconsidering I think Emery should be sacked.

He's had this team for long enough to make a difference and we look completely *%^@ in every department.


Really ? This is what I mean when I say Emery is on a hiding to nothing.

Completely lop sided squad.

a bunch of creative midfielders only good for making sausages out of.

I hope he gets another year and totally dismantles the squad this summer. This is the most mediocre arsenal side for some time.

And if he does not dismantle in the summer? Last week he said Mustafi was a good player.

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I think Sokratis has been our worst player today, who you don't mention. He and Koscielny left the goalscorer in acres of space.

I agree he has been ordinary. It is just we seem to have this idea that Kos is our saviour. Unfortunately he is part of the problem.

Age has sadly caught up with Koscielny, like Monreal. A fine player alongside Mertesacker, but so far past his peak he now needs to be pensioned off.


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What is Mustafi doing there well out of position.

When is he ever in?

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Looks like we're going to have to win the Europa to get CL football, more importantly money, next season.


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Bernard wrote:
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I agree he has been ordinary. It is just we seem to have this idea that Kos is our saviour. Unfortunately he is part of the problem.

Age has sadly caught up with Koscielny, like Monreal. A fine player alongside Mertesacker, but so far past his peak he now needs to be pensioned off.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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Really ? This is what I mean when I say Emery is on a hiding to nothing.

Completely lop sided squad.

a bunch of creative midfielders only good for making sausages out of.

I hope he gets another year and totally dismantles the squad this summer. This is the most mediocre arsenal side for some time.

And if he does not dismantle in the summer? Last week he said Mustafi was a good player.


He doesn’t believe that. Flaying him in public helps nobody


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Irrespective of our performance, once again we have a game decided by a referee.
Still embarrassing from us that we can’t put up more of a fight


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Looks like we're going to have to win the Europa to get CL football, more importantly money, next season.

I have my doubts whether we will get past Valencia on these recent performances. Haven't won home or away since Napoli.

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And if he does not dismantle in the summer? Last week he said Mustafi was a good player.


He doesn’t believe that. Flaying him in public helps nobody

Makes me feel better so that is one, anyone else?

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