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Post #315801  Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:25 pm 
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World class bollocks from the brexiteers proved false again.

https://news.sky.com/story/technologica ... t-11696337


the Home Office says? ffs do you believe everything you're told.

How about aggregate score Spurs is now 3-3 do you believe that?

More fake news, well one of them is...................


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Post #315802  Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:43 pm 
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Crazy city v spurs game.
1-0 city 4 mins
1-1 7 mins
1-2 spurs 11 mins
2-2 12 mins
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Post #315803  Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:03 pm 
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Amazed Pep picked Kompany. I get his influence etc but the only threat spurs were going to have is two rapid forwards on the counter attack. Kompany can’t defend against pace.


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TOP GUN wrote:
World class bollocks from the brexiteers proved false again.

https://news.sky.com/story/technologica ... t-11696337


the Home Office says? ffs do you believe everything you're told.

How about aggregate score Spurs is now 3-3 do you believe that?

More fake news, well one of them is...................




There’s not even dispute about this. It’s a project that would take years to achieve as the techology just doesn’t exist at the moment. Ask someone in the business If you don’t believe me. A basic knowledge of IOT and mobile sims shows this is a nightmare.

You don’t even believe our own home office brilliant :laughing7:

It’s just unicorn after unicorn


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Post #315805  Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:19 pm 
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Man City lead at last..............


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Post #315806  Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:21 pm 
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City 4-2
Lloris beaten at his near post.
Leno has really been one of the most consistent GK’s in the league and hasn’t received the praise he deserves outside of Arsenal


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Come on City!


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City 4-2
Lloris beaten at his near post.
Leno has really been one of the most consistent GK’s in the league and hasn’t received the praise he deserves outside of Arsenal

Absolutely

I think he’s only been at fault for one goal this season whilst making many great saves.

He’s arguably the best signing we made last summer and looks a steal. If he continues his form he will be the best keeper we have had since seaman


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De Bruyne has been brilliant tonight. City seemingly haven’t missed him considering the positions they are in in all comps but no doubt they have missed him


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Post #315810  Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:38 pm 
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City 4-3 spurs. Var goal. Very interesting.
Ball hits llorentes arm then his hip and bundles in. I don’t think it should be handball but interestingly there was 1 camera angle that shows it hitting his arm first - all other angles just look like it hits his hip only - the ref wasn’t shown the angle where it shows it hitting his arm when he reviewed it pitchside.
The ref gave the goal and clearly gestured it hit his hip.


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I hate sperz but it looked like a goal. I fear city winning 4 trophies. I normally wouldn't think sperz could win the CL but one never knows. Cant see them getting past Barca at all even if they play out of their skins but I can see City doing it.
50/50 both could beat Ajax.

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Sterling hattrickin injury time...............................

Var offside, oh my god what else is gonna happen in this game.............


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Post #315813  Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:54 pm 
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What a crazy game....


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I give up, hate football.

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Post #315815  Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:55 pm 
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City score but var disallows it. For me it is a pass back from eriksen that is deflected in to agueros path from a city player. I’m not certain on the rules on this


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1 down 3 more to go.

Liverpool's title now methinks. Man U to beat then when they play.


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City score but var disallows it. For me it is a pass back from eriksen that is deflected in to agueros path from a city player. I’m not certain on the rules on this


Yes it's total bs, I knew Spurs would win this on away goals no matter what, all so predictable, they'll probably go on to win it now with their obscene luck, stinks just like when Chelsea won it after getting battered by Barca and Bayern..

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City score but var disallows it. For me it is a pass back from eriksen that is deflected in to agueros path from a city player. I’m not certain on the rules on this


It has to be a deliberate pass, deflections don't count. Mind you it does depend on what day of the week it happens and if it's a leap year.................


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I'd rather they were stuck in a semi final and then a final than they finish above us in the league.


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City score but var disallows it. For me it is a pass back from eriksen that is deflected in to agueros path from a city player. I’m not certain on the rules on this


It has to be a deliberate pass, deflections don't count. Mind you it does depend on what day of the week it happens and if it's a leap year.................

Is that right? I thought I’d seen something on that before.

No doubt that irrespective of VAR spurs have massively ridden their luck in this competition.

If only we can get some similar luck in knock out games


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VAR is a disaster. I hate it. It was meant to correct obvious errors. It's nothing of the sort. Football is getting worse. Yellow cards for simple fouls. Diving all over the place. Nobody has a clue what constitutes a handball. And VAR seemingly being applied arbitrarily.

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I'd rather they were stuck in a semi final and then a final than they finish above us in the league.

Son suspended for the first leg. Kane will probably miss the game or they’ll rush him back again.

Such a strange game - at no point did I think spurs were the better team over 180 minutes. City shot themselves in the foot.

Also probably time to remove the away goals rule in European football. With modern travel and preparation there is no need for this rule any more.


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I don’t want to even think about permutations right now.

This could be on the verge of being catastrophic :laughing7:


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I don’t want to even think about permutations right now.

This could be on the verge of being catastrophic :laughing7:


I don't give a f*ck what anyone says this is all on Stan Kroenke.

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City will suffer the way we suffered when we were going for 3/4 competitions.

What is strange is the way Pep seems to throw it every time with his wierd team selections.

Why leave Fernandhino on the bench? Why play Kompany?

Spurs will do the same they will bottle it eventually........................


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I think a VAR is good for the game but it could slow down the game and they should do what the NFL does and have an extra referee dedicated to VAR review.

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Sperz will not win the CL. You all have the American Gooner guarantee. :58big-emoticons:

That said even being in a semi or final is huge.
Remember Leeds in the semis?

Still dont see sperz going through (fingers crossed).

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VAR is a disaster. I hate it. It was meant to correct obvious errors. It's nothing of the sort. Football is getting worse. Yellow cards for simple fouls. Diving all over the place. Nobody has a clue what constitutes a handball. And VAR seemingly being applied arbitrarily.

I promise you that as the use of VAR progresses, your frustration will rise. Don't be surprised if, next year, the exact same thing happened against us in the last minute and the VAR paid it.

Or a team gain possession from a clear foul, go up the park and score but they never even consider the foul. First of all they need to declare if the attacking side will be given the benefit of the doubt so they should not come back and look at whose leg is just in front etc. But they will because the person sitting watching the screen has his favorites and will adjudge accordingly - Kane goals will count - Lacazette will be offside. Plus the reviewer who refs according to the league table will just be making the decision and not the ref.

I have heard the ref will not be able to go to a screen and look at the footage in the UK VAR system- can anyone tell me if it is correct. That is a serious flaw if it happens. But then this is an FA who allowed Spurs to change stadiums when it suited them.

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Sperz will not win the CL. You all have the American Gooner guarantee. :58big-emoticons:

That said even being in a semi or final is huge.
Remember Leeds in the semis?

Still dont see sperz going through (fingers crossed).

You've been following football a while. Have you never noticed how unpredictable it is? Tottenham have Ajax in the semi. Ajax certainly have a chance but I'd say Tottenham are the favourites. If they do beat Ajax, it'll then be Barcelona or Liverpool in the final. I'd say Barcelona and Liverpool would start favourites but in a one-off game, worse teams than Tottenham have beaten better teams than Barcelona and Liverpool. Whichever one it is, who's to say Messi or Salah won't miss the final through injury? It could happen.

Make no mistake, Tottenham have a genuine chance of winning the Champions League. It's silly to deny it.


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The spurs v Ajax semi will be interesting as both teams have clung to the under dogs tag and used it will so far. Neither can claim to be clear underdogs in that tie.
I hope and think that there is just something about this Ajax side this season. A bit like Monaco from 2 years ago. A perfect storm of a team. Spurs won’t have Son for the first leg either.
Having said that, spurs fans and players will probably feel that despite all the nearly moments of failure in the CL this season they keep getting through and maybe their name is on it.
12 mins away from elimination in match day 4
Late equaliser v a Barca B team to stay in the comp
Late goals v Inter to make it through the group
Withstood an absolute battering away to Dortmund
Survived two VAR calls v city
You really do need that little bit of luck to get this far in these completions.
Even Liverpool had a bit of luck as Napoli we’re 1 late easy chance from knocking them out in the group stage as well

I’d certainly feel more confident if spurs had Barca and then maybe Liverpool in the final.


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By making at least the semi finals Liverpool and Spurs are on course for somewhere between €70-80 million in prize money. I think we get a maximum of €35-40 if we won the Europa League.

That is one extra top class player per team. It is absolutely vital we get back in the champions league next year


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On another note, its a great advert for the PL (not that it needs it) that so many clubs are in the semis for the CL.

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Rich wrote:
The spurs v Ajax semi will be interesting as both teams have clung to the under dogs tag and used it will so far. Neither can claim to be clear underdogs in that tie.
I hope and think that there is just something about this Ajax side this season. A bit like Monaco from 2 years ago. A perfect storm of a team. Spurs won’t have Son for the first leg either.
Having said that, spurs fans and players will probably feel that despite all the nearly moments of failure in the CL this season they keep getting through and maybe their name is on it.
12 mins away from elimination in match day 4
Late equaliser v a Barca B team to stay in the comp
Late goals v Inter to make it through the group
Withstood an absolute battering away to Dortmund
Survived two VAR calls v city
You really do need that little bit of luck to get this far in these completions.
Even Liverpool had a bit of luck as Napoli we’re 1 late easy chance from knocking them out in the group stage as well

I’d certainly feel more confident if spurs had Barca and then maybe Liverpool in the final.

In addition to luck, you need resilience and courage, which Spurs have demonstrated this season. My bones are telling me it will be a Spurs Liverpool final. Liverpool are probably the best equipped to stop them but ...

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The second var decision spot on says Clattenburg as the ball touched Silva on the way through and that made the scorer offside.

His can you say var isn't fair whenvthe ref made two very correct decisions? Okay it may not be fair on the losers but if it was then it was and there's no point arguing about it?

Var works...........


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The second var decision spot on says Clattenburg as the ball touched Silva on the way through and that made the scorer offside.

His can you say var isn't fair whenvthe ref made two very correct decisions? Okay it may not be fair on the losers but if it was then it was and there's no point arguing about it?

Var works...........

I agree. It is imperfect and always will be with marginal decisions, but it does mean that the flagrantly wrong decisions get overturned.

I also love the away goals rule. It add that bonkers element, it encourages the away team to attack, and it makes the dreaded extra time and penalties unlikely.

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By making at least the semi finals Liverpool and Spurs are on course for somewhere between €70-80 million in prize money. I think we get a maximum of €35-40 if we won the Europa League.

That is one extra top class player per team. It is absolutely vital we get back in the champions league next year

It's a lot of fun too (albeit not if we flop feebly to Barca or Bayern every time) in the latter phases. The last two rounds have been scintillating.

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Rich wrote:
The spurs v Ajax semi will be interesting as both teams have clung to the under dogs tag and used it will so far. Neither can claim to be clear underdogs in that tie.
I hope and think that there is just something about this Ajax side this season. A bit like Monaco from 2 years ago. A perfect storm of a team. Spurs won’t have Son for the first leg either.
Having said that, spurs fans and players will probably feel that despite all the nearly moments of failure in the CL this season they keep getting through and maybe their name is on it.
12 mins away from elimination in match day 4
Late equaliser v a Barca B team to stay in the comp
Late goals v Inter to make it through the group
Withstood an absolute battering away to Dortmund
Survived two VAR calls v city
You really do need that little bit of luck to get this far in these completions.
Even Liverpool had a bit of luck as Napoli we’re 1 late easy chance from knocking them out in the group stage as well

I’d certainly feel more confident if spurs had Barca and then maybe Liverpool in the final.

In addition to luck, you need resilience and courage, which Spurs have demonstrated this season. My bones are telling me it will be a Spurs Liverpool final. Liverpool are probably the best equipped to stop them but ...

With the way Messi is playing I have a feeling he may drag them to the title


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It has been strange that more of Europe’s really big hitters haven’t made serious moves for some of spurs’ players in the last 3 years. We all know that all these players could double or triple their wages easily.

Perhaps now that they are really being noticed in the later stages of the CL spurs will feel the same unrest we had to cope with season after season.
I’m certain Alderweireld is off with his £25m release clause. A bargain for anyone
Eriksen has refused numerous contract offers and only has 1 year left on his deal this summer.
Ali and Kane are most likely to stay but if I were Real/Barca etc I’d be going for Son. What a big game player.


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The second var decision spot on says Clattenburg as the ball touched Silva on the way through and that made the scorer offside.

His can you say var isn't fair whenvthe ref made two very correct decisions? Okay it may not be fair on the losers but if it was then it was and there's no point arguing about it?

Var works...........

For Llorente's goal the ref was only shown one angle over and over again. Who decided that? The replays before the VAR review by the ref had several view of it from different angles and in one of those you can see the ball hit his arm and then his thigh. But the ref never got to see that.

There was the VAR offisde incident in the Chelsea v Totts game where Chelsea came up with a view from a different camera angle which was in direct contrast to the VAR one. I've no issue with its use for clear and obvious mistakes but it is being used for marginal decisions and for some reason the footage being made available to refs is not always comprehensive.

Also, the thought process seems to be "How can we disallow this goal?" Goal line technology is great. VAR is a mess.

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I also love the away goals rule. It add that bonkers element, it encourages the away team to attack, and it makes the dreaded extra time and penalties unlikely.

Encouraging the away team to attack was the main thinking behind the introduction of the away goal rule. I'm not sure, but I've a feeling someone here moaned about it, and in giving their reasons why it was no longer justified failed to mention that principle reason for bringing it in. I'd say it still works. City will know they lost because they failed to score an away goal and Tottenham did. There is a big incentive to score an away goal.

If we get one tonight Napoli will need four, so we should be close to safe. It would take a huge balls up to do that. Should we get a goal, Napoli will regret not going for a goal at the Emirates more than they did (despite missing two sitters they didn't attack us that much).

Having said that, I find penalty shoot outs exciting and I'd have thought many people do.


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