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Post #308761  Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:39 am 
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An unforgettable voice for any era. An absolute wonder.

As it happens, Elvis died 41 years ago today. Kind of fitting that they would share this day. Doesn't matter what generation you're from, there's just no denying that level of greatness.

Elvis is dead. But I thought he was living somewhere under an assumed name.

I don't suppose you have any information about Harold Holt.

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Rest In Power, Aretha. Soul music personified.

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Really Soc? That makes getting back to top 4 all the much harder. It's not like we really don't have the money either, at least the Kroenke's have it. If we were the Los Angeles Rams he'd find the money.

Looks like another season without top 4. We're becoming Liverpool of the late 90s and early 00s (some could argue presently). Flattering but really not going to win the title.

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Mavididi joining Juve b team for £2m


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It looks like both Campbell and Ospina are gone. That leaves Jenkinson who's obviously not going anywhere now that he's injured.


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Decent read which summarises nicely what I have been saying for the last few days. Nevermind 3 months this will take years to fix

It has seemed like decades that we have been hanging on in groundhog day type scenarios waiting beyond patiently for Arsene to politely do the honourable thing and leave the building. The fact the guy didn’t ever have the decency to leave of his own accord kind of sums the latter part of his reign up but that’s another story.

The sad reality for me as a true AFC fan is that Arsene was simply allowed to stay on for far too long.

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Joel Campbell departs

Arsenal have sold 26-year old Costa Rican forward Joel Campbell to Frosinone for a £1.5m initial fee.
He becomes player number 12 to leave the club this season, taking Arsenal's net spend to -£63m so far.


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Post #308768  Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:28 pm 
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To be fair, AG makes a few good points. I think he wrong about Chump's chances. AG has always had a tendency to extrapolate and is severely limited in his prophetic powers. But it is a scary possibility. There may just be enough Americans who are sufficiently dissaffected/thick/bigotted/inert for that to come to pass


If Trump's opponents are idiots like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez he'll serve a second term, that looks a certainty.


Agree. If ever the expression "just a pretty face" applied, it is with her.

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Decent read which summarises nicely what I have been saying for the last few days. Nevermind 3 months this will take years to fix

It has seemed like decades that we have been hanging on in groundhog day type scenarios waiting beyond patiently for Arsene to politely do the honourable thing and leave the building. The fact the guy didn’t ever have the decency to leave of his own accord kind of sums the latter part of his reign up but that’s another story.

The sad reality for me as a true AFC fan is that Arsene was simply allowed to stay on for far too long.

http://onlinegooner.com/article.php?sec ... 3agxRrTWhA


Of course it's going to be difficult but top 4 is doable with our current squad. A squad that would have finished higher than 6th last season if not for a horrible away record. I'd be amazed if Emery can't rectify our away form.

Our away record was abysmal last season. Our home form was outstanding though. He will do well to kept that at the same level. Our away record was so bad, that you would have to expect a much better points total so hopefully a decent battle for 4th.

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I've no idea what's going on. Spend £20m+ on a reserve keeper. That's just nuts.

If Leno stays as No.2 for most of the season then that really is nuts but I'd like to see him given a run in the team before we all write him off.

I've not seen Leno play even in Germany, but if we wanted a GK from these shores I'd have gone for Schmiechel from Leicester. He'd have been £30m+ though

I'm not writing him off at all. I just find the whole situation quite odd. Of the keepers based in England, my choice would be Butland. Hopefully Leno works out.

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Mustafi hails Emery: "He told me the positives in my game and what to work on. I’m happy because it’s difficult when you never know what to work on because no one tells you."

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TOP GUN wrote:
Decent read which summarises nicely what I have been saying for the last few days. Nevermind 3 months this will take years to fix

It has seemed like decades that we have been hanging on in groundhog day type scenarios waiting beyond patiently for Arsene to politely do the honourable thing and leave the building. The fact the guy didn’t ever have the decency to leave of his own accord kind of sums the latter part of his reign up but that’s another story.

The sad reality for me as a true AFC fan is that Arsene was simply allowed to stay on for far too long.

http://onlinegooner.com/article.php?sec ... 3agxRrTWhA


But I wasn't saying it will take 3 months to fix. I said it should take 3 months to see improvement..


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Mustafi hails Emery: "He told me the positives in my game and what to work on. I’m happy because it’s difficult when you never know what to work on because no one tells you."

Ouch
Amazing that a man with a good number of international caps with Germany and over 150 first team games in the Italian, Spanish and English leagues, needs to be told how to play by a bloke who barely played at the highest level!

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Mustafi hails Emery: "He told me the positives in my game and what to work on. I’m happy because it’s difficult when you never know what to work on because no one tells you."

Ouch
Amazing that a man with a good number of international caps with Germany and over 150 first team games in the Italian, Spanish and English leagues, needs to be told how to play by a bloke who barely played at the highest level!

Do you really think so OMOH? Or are you just trying to excuse the lack of coaching to players given by Wenger in his latter years at Arsenal. Does it necessarily follow that good coaches will have played at the highest level anyway? I'm not so sure.


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Can't agree on Mustafi, Hoy. I fully Emery and have a far more positive supportive mindset towards the club now that Wenger is gone. However, Mustafi? Nah, he's needs to be out. Tons of players with caps who are crap. Mustafi among them. He's more a liability than Xhaka to me. Both are but Mustafi is the last line of defense before the keeper.

I hope Emery is working on getting rid of him.

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Arsenal apparently played a behind closed doors friendly against palace the day after the city game. Emery using it to bring he non starting 11 players up to speed. Arsenal won 4-0 against a palace reserve team


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Ospina gone to Napoli on loan. Wish him the best. Won a couple of medals with us. Also his manager must be reasonably clever. A final year on probably big money & then a free. We really get shafted by these big wages players were gifted under the socialist wage model. Before people complain he did exactly as I would have done. The keeper ranks looks wafer thin to me with an aging Čech & Leno who is unknown.

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To be fair, AG makes a few good points.

No doubt Decaf .... he does .... raises talking points ; does a lot of good work so to speak .

What I can't abide is this "We Philly Boys are renowned for telling it how it is " and yet at the slightest poofy disagreeance ; the nancy gets all hurt and wont respond .

Most of it slips by the board but now and then I think ....Oh f**** off you *%^@ .


All Blacks v Aussie tonight ... now I like the Aussies ........but putting that pug ugly obnoxious ***^%$ Michael Cheka's dial further out of shape is a joy to behold .


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Interesting that Emery said today Čech starts at Chelsea which has you questioning why we signed Leno. I’m assuming Leno and Sokratis have both been lined up by us for quite some time and pre Emerys arrival

I've no idea what's going on. Spend £20m+ on a reserve keeper. That's just nuts.

Dec ...you and TG have missed the boat completely

Always send a player out against his former club .

They have more fire in their belly to do well .

This is NOT the time to introduce Leno .

Francis Jeffers scored twice against West Brom [ maybe once ] but anyway next game up Everton ...
tailermade ....... Arsene doesn't even include him in the team at all :icon_scratch: total man mismanagement .


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Some eagle eyed football fans have spotted a job advert for electricians for a 3 month contract to work on a ‘large commercial project in Tottenham, north london’ For immediate start.
The article goes on that there are anything up to 3800 labourers on site per day, being paid roughly £1k per week, so £3.8m per week in labour costs......to put that in perspective the spurs players earn £2.8m per week.

I’m sure there is a lot of estimates and speculation but there is no doubt this stadium has gone way over budget and way over time. I’m surprised spurs have t sold the naming rights because that should be worth £10-15m per season to them


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Some eagle eyed football fans have spotted a job advert for electricians for a 3 month contract to work on a ‘large commercial project in Tottenham, north london’ For immediate start.
The article goes on that there are anything up to 3800 labourers on site per day, being paid roughly £1k per week, so £3.8m per week in labour costs......to put that in perspective the spurs players earn £2.8m per week.

I’m sure there is a lot of estimates and speculation but there is no doubt this stadium has gone way over budget and way over time. I’m surprised spurs have t sold the naming rights because that should be worth £10-15m per season to them

Shucks ....... Do they need any welders .....?

When I was in UK the outfit I was working for made a million tons of hand rails for Twickenham ...none of them collapsed a la Sheffield Wednesday .

Son bought a MIG welder three days back ...to scared to take it home because his wife might w ***(^% on about the cost ; so stored it my place

My God ......turned my life is turned around .... why I didn't buy one thirty years ago is open to question ....wonderful.
If you can't weld and want to ...buy one of these ....

Even Daz could be macho and cool in five minutes.

Just listened to Cheka in the warm up ..... he's not so bad ...quite likeable


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Amazing that a man with a good number of international caps with Germany and over 150 first team games in the Italian, Spanish and English leagues, needs to be told how to play by a bloke who barely played at the highest level!
Do you really think so OMOH? Or are you just trying to excuse the lack of coaching to players given by Wenger in his latter years at Arsenal. Does it necessarily follow that good coaches will have played at the highest level anyway? I'm not so sure.
It is incredible to me to read an experienced man like Mustafi admit he has not been able to take responsibility for his own game. Come on, please! No doubt coaches can help younger players learn the ropes, but by the time they reach Mustafi's age they should be able to act on their own initiative. I can see how one coach might shape a team up differently to another; or may have a different training regime; or have a particular approach to boosting team spirit or individual confidence, but once they cross that white line only the player himself, or his opponent, can affect his performance.

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Can't agree on Mustafi, Hoy. I fully Emery and have a far more positive supportive mindset towards the club now that Wenger is gone. However, Mustafi? Nah, he's needs to be out. Tons of players with caps who are crap. Mustafi among them. He's more a liability than Xhaka to me. Both are but Mustafi is the last line of defense before the keeper.

I hope Emery is working on getting rid of him.
I hold no high regard for Mustafi, but he is what we have right now. Not Baresi, Adams or Terry. While he wears that beautiful red and white shirt I'll want the best for him. Mind you he could grow a pair while he is about it.

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I've no idea what's going on. Spend £20m+ on a reserve keeper. That's just nuts.

Dec ...you and TG have missed the boat completely

Always send a player out against his former club .

They have more fire in their belly to do well .

This is NOT the time to introduce Leno



Just you watch Čech drop an absolute clanger later now :1laughter:

This might be due a retweet !


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.... and that's aimed at that dumb arsed braindead Gary Glitter shoed, simpering cross dressing Spanish speaking fairy from Burnley
There are alot of people in Burnley who fit that description, though not Sean Dych. Anyway get this beautiful song inside you.

:laughing7: too true Old Man ....but your music tastes are in a word ... ***&*&^%$%$#$ .... Ventures , Everly Bros ,Buddy Holly Chuck Berry , Elvis , Duanne Eddy , Eddie Cochrane

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Pawson's an awful referee but he got that red card spot on.


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Dec ...you and TG have missed the boat completely

Always send a player out against his former club .

They have more fire in their belly to do well .

This is NOT the time to introduce Leno



Just you watch Čech drop an absolute clanger later now :1laughter:

This might be due a retweet !

yeah and while you are giving it the Big Wherewith all........ sipping your airy fairy pina coladas ...waiting to be kidnapped , anally gang raped in Mexico

......I'm sloshing back rum like it's going out of fashion in the safe haven of NZ


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Do you really think so OMOH? Or are you just trying to excuse the lack of coaching to players given by Wenger in his latter years at Arsenal. Does it necessarily follow that good coaches will have played at the highest level anyway? I'm not so sure.
It is incredible to me to read an experienced man like Mustafi admit he has not been able to take responsibility for his own game. Come on, please! No doubt coaches can help younger players learn the ropes, but by the time they reach Mustafi's age they should be able to act on their own initiative. I can see how one coach might shape a team up differently to another; or may have a different training regime; or have a particular approach to boosting team spirit or individual confidence, but once they cross that white line only the player himself, or his opponent, can affect his performance.

Well if you are correct in your views, then the manager who purchased such a player lumbered our team with a very poor player & obviously lacked judgement. I am sure you will agree with that.

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Don’t know if anyone is watching the Spurs Fulham game but Chambers square pass in the first 10 minutes shows why he is not at the club.

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This is the team I want to see today lining up.

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bellerin mustafi sokratis leichstiener
torreira guendouzi
ramsey
Özil Lacazette aubamayeng


Emery HAS to bring Lacazette back into the team. 2 world class strikers. its a sin not to play both of them.
Was not impressed with our forward line last week but Özil and Aubameyang should retain their places with Mkhitaryan to drop out.
Torreira HAS to start today with the disappointing Xhaka the one to make way.
Guendouzi did make a few errors but he is in there with physicality , aggression , guile and pace and no fear. really like this kid and he should keep his place. No way Xhaka should start today.
Was thoroughly impressed with leichsteiner last week. Just looked like a nasty so and so but with so much experience and know how and defend first approach. Love nacho but i think leich should stay in the team for now.
That line up I believe gets us at least a point today. Id take a point.


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This is the team I want to see today lining up.

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torreira guendouzi
ramsey
Özil Lacazette aubamayeng

Seems like a likely lineup. If Monreal is physically ready I can see Emery starting him because he's a natural left back. It's a bit early to get a read on Emery though, so I guess we could see some surprises. With Wenger it was pretty easy to guess the starting eleven after 22 years.


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Hazard is on the bench.

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It seems like any starting eleven that isn't exactly according to fan wishes is considered disastrous these days. To me this is an interesting team, full of very good players. Guendouzi and Xhaka getting another chance in midfield against a more human team. Özil in the numer 10 role I'd presume. Iwobi getting a real chance to prove himself with a start at Stamford Bridge. Nice to see Monreal starting as well.


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Hazuki wrote:
It seems like any starting eleven that isn't exactly according to fan wishes is considered disastrous these days. To me this is an interesting team, full of very good players. Guendouzi and Xhaka getting another chance in midfield against a more human team. Özil in the numer 10 role I'd presume. Iwobi getting a real chance to prove himself with a start at Stamford Bridge. Nice to see Monreal starting as well.


I think you all know where I sit with Xhaka so wouldn’t have included him however it’s a gutsy decision to drop Ramsey and play Iwobi I have to say. That’s the precise reason Arsene isn’t here because we wanted management that we wasn’t reactive but proactive. You can’t be disappointed with those changes Ramsey wasn’t great last week


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Hazuki wrote:
It seems like any starting eleven that isn't exactly according to fan wishes is considered disastrous these days. To me this is an interesting team, full of very good players. Guendouzi and Xhaka getting another chance in midfield against a more human team. Özil in the numer 10 role I'd presume. Iwobi getting a real chance to prove himself with a start at Stamford Bridge. Nice to see Monreal starting as well.

Hi Haz
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Disappointed that Xhaka remains.
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It seems like any starting eleven that isn't exactly according to fan wishes is considered disastrous these days. To me this is an interesting team, full of very good players. Guendouzi and Xhaka getting another chance in midfield against a more human team. Özil in the numer 10 role I'd presume. Iwobi getting a real chance to prove himself with a start at Stamford Bridge. Nice to see Monreal starting as well.

Hi Haz
Think he has missed a trick not bringing in Lacazette or Torreira.
Disappointed that Xhaka remains.
Very surprised Iwobi comes in.

No Torreira, very surprised.

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Jeez.

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We could have had Lacazette in the starting line up. Since we seem to be playing without a defence yet again.

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