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Post #426241  Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:52 pm 
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Only 4 mins of added time. Haha. It should be double that.

This has been a joke from start to finish. Someone please come and save our club. I don’t care if we don’t win anything for a while, just show me something different and some ambition


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It’s not clear that it’s a double kick. It’s not clear that it should have been a penalty. We just seem to be in a rut of the benefit of the doubt always going against us.

Wenger ranting about refs the other day probably hasn't helped.


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It’s not clear that it’s a double kick. It’s not clear that it should have been a penalty. We just seem to be in a rut of the benefit of the doubt always going against us.

VAR is needed ASAP. The spin on the ball shows it was a clear double kick.


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Double hit! Ha the goal shouldn't stand. No pen, and shouldn't have counted!

We've been *%^@, but tough to take for the kids.

They would just let him take it again and he would have likely got that too.

I think Opsina 's been getting lessons on how to save pens from Čech !


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So the entire result will be blamed on the double hit and the regional inconsistency of referees.

Also if Wenger was on the touchline kicking every ball and urging us forward like he usually does we would have won


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It’s not clear that it’s a double kick. It’s not clear that it should have been a penalty. We just seem to be in a rut of the benefit of the doubt always going against us.

Wenger ranting about refs the other day probably hasn't helped.

He’s a whinging moaning git who gets on people’s nerves. I can quite imagine officials sticking it to him.

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Well if that, combined with missing the top 4 doesn't finish Wenger off, nothing will.

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Just when you think we have seen our worse, we slump even further down. Wenger is sinking this club in double quick time.

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It’s not clear that it’s a double kick. It’s not clear that it should have been a penalty. We just seem to be in a rut of the benefit of the doubt always going against us.

I agree it is not clear it was a double kick. Forest don't even have a permanent manager FFS.

The penalty is not an excuse. They were 2 goals ahead of us. Nothing to say Ospina would have saved the retake if it was a double kick. There are no excuses for playing like this. But the manager started making them before we even left London.

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Double hit! Ha the goal shouldn't stand. No pen, and shouldn't have counted!

We've been *%^@, but tough to take for the kids.

They would just let him take it again and he would have likely got that too.

I think Opsina 's been getting lessons on how to save pens from Čech !

Not true. If he kicked it twice then it should be a free kick to us.

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It’s not clear that it’s a double kick. It’s not clear that it should have been a penalty. We just seem to be in a rut of the benefit of the doubt always going against us.

I agree it is not clear it was a double kick. Forest don't even have a permanent manager FFS.

The penalty is not an excuse. They were 2 goals ahead of us. Nothing to say Ospina would have saved the retake if it was a double kick. There are no excuses for playing like this. But the manager started making them before we even left London.

What retake? Agree about the rest though.

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warrior wrote:
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Double hit! Ha the goal shouldn't stand. No pen, and shouldn't have counted!

We've been *%^@, but tough to take for the kids.

They would just let him take it again and he would have likely got that too.

I think Opsina 's been getting lessons on how to save pens from Čech !


Didn't know that. That means that when Pires & Henry did that pen cock up, the ref then gave the opposition a free-kick for a double touch (which wasn't actually one anyway).

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long time gooner wrote:
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They would just let him take it again and he would have likely got that too.

I think Opsina 's been getting lessons on how to save pens from Čech !

Not true. If he kicked it twice then it should be a free kick to us.


We still would have needed to score another goal in only 9 minutes and deserved to lose as we were shocking :1laughter:


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john1 wrote:
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By building a succession plan the club have been removing the need to keep him. Gazidis wants him gone. The only question is will he last the two years or go this summer?

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Not true. If he kicked it twice then it should be a free kick to us.


We still would have needed to score another goal in only 9 minutes and deserved to lose as we were shocking :1laughter:


Oh yes. My feelings too.

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Watch how the controversy over the 4th penalty is used to obscure the fact that we were 3-2 down (after a fortunate second goal) with under ten minutes remaining because Wenger thinks defending isn't the fun part of the game.


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As for declining standards:
Nottingham Forest are the first team from a lower division to score 4+ goals against Arsenal in an #FACup tie

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By all means pick a weakened side but have some of the big boys on the bench for goodness sake.

We had no defence and no attack and the midfield was no great shakes either.


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long time gooner wrote:
Gaz from Oz wrote:
I agree it is not clear it was a double kick. Forest don't even have a permanent manager FFS.

The penalty is not an excuse. They were 2 goals ahead of us. Nothing to say Ospina would have saved the retake if it was a double kick. There are no excuses for playing like this. But the manager started making them before we even left London.

What retake? Agree about the rest though.

Yes you are correct it would be our free. If people expect the VAR to solve these problems they will be very disappointed.

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We have Chelsea in a 2 legged league cup tie now. Wengers rubbish at those and we will surely lose. There will be serious pressure on him if that happens.


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By all means pick a weakened side but have some of the big boys on the bench for goodness sake.

We had no defence and no attack and the midfield was no great shakes either.

And no manager :20hospitals:

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lomekian wrote:
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By building a succession plan the club have been removing the need to keep him. Gazidis wants him gone. The only question is will he last the two years or go this summer?


Tomorrow I hope

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Back to bed. 4am here. My team did me proud.

The only questions I have is when do Walcott and Wenger leave. They can share a cab.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
Back to bed. 4am here. My team did me proud.

The only questions I have is when do Walcott and Wenger leave. They can share a cab.


I’ve already offered Walcott a lift; I can easily squeeze another one in

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Just feck off Theo

Southampton are interested. Here’s one transfer to not play hardball with. £10-15m. Done


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Double hit! Ha the goal shouldn't stand. No pen, and shouldn't have counted!

We've been *%^@, but tough to take for the kids.


What kids? Ospina Mert, El Neny, Walcott, Welbeck, Debuchy are all experienced internationals. We were not good enough because there was no drive or desire as their has not been in many games this season. That is 100% the managers fault.

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socrates wrote:
By all means pick a weakened side but have some of the big boys on the bench for goodness sake.

We had no defence and no attack and the midfield was no great shakes either.


THe problem is Welbeck, Walcott and Mertesacker are supposed to be the big boys.

Our first 11 is pretty good. Our squad is weak. Whoever replaces the manager has a lot of work to do. WE are finally approaching the point where he will be leaving the club in a worse state comparatively than when he came onboard.

Very few arguments can be made in his favour

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Rich wrote:
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Just feck off Theo

Southampton are interested. Here’s one transfer to not play hardball with. £10-15m. Done


Give him away. He won’t go though will he. Who else would be stupid enough to offer him £7.3 million a year so he can go and get a few more tatts and a stupid beard and haircut?

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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What retake? Agree about the rest though.

Yes you are correct it would be our free. If people expect the VAR to solve these problems they will be very disappointed.

VAR would have certainly resolved that one in our favour.

Wenger can cling to that. Please can a reporter ask him some serious questions about the defence and what he does on the training pitch....oh what’s the point. Wenger thinks he can get by with a £2m bargain bucket CB from Bolton whilst our rivals actually look to improve their team by doing something radical like buying a player better than anyone they currently have!


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john1 wrote:
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Give him away. He won’t go though will he. Who else would be stupid enough to offer him £7.3 million a year so he can go and get a few more tatts and a stupid beard and haircut?


Walcott has made 400 appearances for Arsenal and is still not a starter.


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Double hit! Ha the goal shouldn't stand. No pen, and shouldn't have counted!

We've been *%^@, but tough to take for the kids.


What kids? Ospina Mert, El Neny, Walcott, Welbeck, Debuchy are all experienced internationals. We were not good enough because there was no drive or desire as their has not been in many games this season. That is 100% the managers fault.

I don't care how they feel..I DO care about the kids that played...

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lomekian wrote:
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By all means pick a weakened side but have some of the big boys on the bench for goodness sake.

We had no defence and no attack and the midfield was no great shakes either.


THe problem is Welbeck, Walcott and Mertesacker are supposed to be the big boys.

Our first 11 is pretty good. Our squad is weak. Whoever replaces the manager has a lot of work to do. WE are finally approaching the point where he will be leaving the club in a worse state comparatively than when he came onboard.

Very few arguments can be made in his favour

When Sanchez and Özil go the comparison with what wenger took over and what he’ll leave us with is vast.
The back 5. Bergkamp, Wright, Merson. Ok the midfield wasn’t up to much but it was still better than coq and elneny


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