Start putting players in their natural positions and no telling where it will end.

"A great advert for the premiership"

When that gets said you know our defence is all over the place again

Looking at the replays, the penalty decision was correct. Not much in it and Hazard made a meal out of it, but clear contact.

Yes he made contact with Hazards foot, underneath, after Hazard had played it but no way did he impede Hazard who could never have got to it before Jack so why give a penalty?

That being said, Bellerin was really good today. Glad he got the equalizer.

Because you can't kick opponents?

As the VAR has been trialed in Oz , it would not likely have been overturned.

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Plenty of talking points ...... entertaining game depending on your viewpoint ....whether you are a glass half full or half empty merchant .
Walcott on with three minutes to go ..... I was calling for him to come on at 65 minutes .

Replacing Lacazette your most potent weapon with the " Scuff Specialist " Welbeck ....

Soft penalty ...but a challenge that didn't need to be made .

We had the winning off that game , Chelsea very poor earlier on , they lack the cutting edge of Costa but for us a lot of good chances thrown away by abysmally bad passing

.... but then in the end thanks to Morata having a mare probably should be happy with the point .

Definite penalty.

Yes, have to concede it was a penalty.

Wenger to make a knob of himself in 5....4....3....

Jack was a very lucky boy too.

Here's a question.

Why doesn't Wenger buy a decent central defensive midfielder and a couple of kick-ass centre-halfs?

We might be all right then.

Having said that, our bench was tragic tonight.

Great game of football.

We actually played pretty well going forward, Özil was superb.

Admittedly it was a makeshift defence but our defending is just shocking, we are so amateurish in our organisation and decision-making.

Sadly we've been saying that for a decade or more.

I think there's more chance of me shagging Kylie Minogue than of Čech saving a pen.

The taste of the pill will be determined by your own level of grace.

*%^@ off Wenger, you *%^@*** whining ponce.

2.....1. Boom.

He's been brilliant for most of the last month and a half.

Yeah, I have more sympathy for our defense today as they've never really played together. Chambers is just not good enough, but I still think Holding can become good. We're desperate for a leader at the back.

Really hoping Maitland-Niles get a couple of games in central midfield this season. He's a real gem.

I don't care about the pill - him leaving will remove any bitterness the insufferable prick.

Spunked all his penalty luck winning Chavski the Champions League in the year they were rubbish

Yup...

You should be so lucky



.... sorry I'll get me coat

I don't feel as strongly as you, but I share the overall feeling. His departure will be relief tinged with sadness...the sadness being that someone who was so brilliant, and still has some great managerial qualities, allowed time to pass him by through stubbornness, where a little more flexibility, delegation and expenditure augmented with his own positive qualities might have seen us win much more than we have.

But anyone angry that he gets a big pat on the back when he goes is just being a prick themselves. He may have served himself as much, but he has certainly served this club, just not always as effectively as it once appeared.

Can't argue with anything Carragher has said.

I would have definitely agreed with you until the end of last season. Not now. I think he is an utter embarrassment and has forfeited the right for a dignified departure that was totally open to him after the FA cup final. I feel nothing but contempt for him.

I like these easy ones ..... a hard arse ...think Roy Keane , Alan Ball , Tony Adams , Martin Keown , Dennis Wise will have strong opinions and likely to express them .

...... that isn't the Wenger way .... harps playing gently , water feature noises ...... no angry home truths in our dressing room

As for tonight...an absorbing game, alternating between fantastic quality and dross. Taylor managed to get the big calls right and a lot of little ones wrong, which on balance probably just favoured us. Neither team is that good. Chelsea's midfield looks worse than ours, despite 3 of them being there, and our makeshift back line was poor even by our own standards.

Morata on form would have won the game comfortably for Chelsea. But equally without Courtois we would have won comfortably. A draw a far result between two flawed teams...

Haven't read Wenger's post match comments, but dreading them. Re refs, he's in danger of going all D-Fens, and that's coming from me.

You're right to do so. You could perhaps say that it was harsh but it wasn't farcical. All the pundits concurred that it was a penalty, correctly in my opinion as Bellerin clearly kicks Hazard's foot instead of the ball. What annoys me so much about Wenger is that he tries to portray it as ludicrous and beyond belief just as he did with the Lacazette offside. It was marginal and had Bellerin got away with it I would have thought "bit lucky there but fair play". Wenger insisting it is a travesty of justice reveals how pathetic he has become.

Do you honestly think the club were remotely prepped for him to leave? His self-indulgence was disappointing, but had he actually left last summer we would have had such a power vacuum, where we would have just created another Wenger power figure. Now we have specialists in sports science, scouting, negotiations and a Director of Football in waiting, and by the end of the season we are in, a structure will be in place that will make the manager expendable.

We needed him to stay as a club, even though the team suffered. Now we need him to either pull out a late season miraculous change or leave in the summer. The latter is rather more likely than the former. A one year contract would have been more honest, but that would have left him a lame duck.

So, does anyone subscribe to Wenger's view that the penalty was soft? He commented that there would be 10 penalties a game if all those types are given. I think it's the use of the word "farcical" that did sound a little embarrassing - but then Wenger has always liked a whinge and he's nicer about it than that arse Mourinho.

It's definitely a soft penalty.

Nah the guy is a complete fukpuffin of the highest order and it doesn't make me graceless in saying I prefer him booted out rather than carried out by unicorns in a chorus of adulation that will occur

It wasn't a penalty Hazard conned the ref but Chelsea missed some absolute sitters so I don't really feel cheated, actually I'm not sure anybody gives a *%^@ anymore

I would say soft but correct. Bellerin makes no contact with the ball, and enough contact with Hazards heel to justify the decision. Ridiculous to call it farcical. The one against WBA was farcical, but not this one.

The game is alien to me these days. It seems contact now justifies a penalty kick. 5 or 6 years ago that was a dive, plain and simple. I couldn't understand the one Everton got against Liverpool a few weeks ago and this was worse. It has effectively got to the stage where you cannot touch a player in the box.

What annoys me is how he always plays the persecution card (or in other words it's always someone else's fault) whilst refusing to acknowledge that the vast majority of our poor performances/results over the last decade has been a direct result of his own inability to address the alarming and very obvious deficiences in his own teams.

Went to the match tonight. Gives a totally different perspective than on tv.
Both teams very evenly matched, the clear difference being Chelsea have a well drilled back line who make the opposition play well for their chances. Our defence is a total shambles that gifts chances left right and centre.
The number of times a simple lofted ball beat our entire back 5 was frightening. It is also noticeable how arsenal simply aren’t switched on at any opposition restart in play, so many short corners, easy ‘outs’ from goal kicks. One free kick saw a man free down the left from the moment the free kick was given and no one picked him up, it lead to a dangerous cross. Just take the same players and someone to tell them what to do without the ball and we improve by 10-15 points each season.
It seems the penalty was a soft one. My gripe is more that we never seem to get away with anything in our own box, every foul is a pen, even 50/50 ones are given. At the other end we don’t seem to get the 50/50s. Even if all decisions for and against are correct you would expect the statistical anomalies of the odd lucky decision for you. I can think of the one v West Brom at Home but so many other pens given or not.
Draw was a fair result. The game pretty much summed up this current arsenal team in a nutshell.
Injuries to big players for a big game.
Dominate but fail to score
Gift guilt edged opportunities when on top
Score but throw away the lead immediately......to a penalty
Confidence drained concede again
Late rally and goal to install just enough hope going forward
And still time to nearly gift the opposition a winner!