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Post #294041  Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:46 pm 
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It's mad Wilts. Our biggest shareholders are two of the richest men in the world, one who doesn't want to put his hand in his pocket and the other who does but can't.

And one of the highest paid managers in the world does exactly what he pleases and routinely leaves us short of what is required.



just to add to your misery we actually have three billionaires at the club . Farhad Moshiri owns 15% ... mind you he only has 1.4 billion so splashing a 100 mill on a couple of players might leave him a bit short .


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Don't even communicate with the ref .... have some adjudicator in the stand . He stops the clock when ball is out of play and restarts it when the goal kick or throw in has been taken . No -one but he knows how much time is left , don't put up a board saying extra time .


Time rattled on while both teams waited while , some plank sat on his arse to put his boot back on last week .

Rugby has a dopey rule ... play carries on after the siren until the ball goes out or the team in possession of the ball makes a mistake

Stop the clock when the ball isn't in play, but why not make the buggers play for an hour and a half anyway? They get paid enough, after all, and we pay enough to watch games.

Ye gods ... actually PLAY for an hour and a half .

These fairies collapse clutching their face when someone brushes their sock . You'd have all manner of humanitarian groups up in arms , Amnesty International , the United Nations would be called in .

I've said it before ...contrast the reactions between the Tour de France and footballers . Bloke falls off his bike blood everywhere , skin missing .. he immediately [ barring severe injury ] leaps up repairs his bike and carries on .
Soft cock footballers allow themselves to be stretchered off , only to make the sideline then wave to come back on .

Ask them to play for that time .... they'd need oxygen tents , salt tablets , iron lungs , vitamin injections .


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Post #294043  Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:49 pm 

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just to add to your misery we actually have three billionaires at the club . Farhad Moshiri owns 15% ... mind you he only has 1.4 billion so splashing a 100 mill on a couple of players might leave him a bit short .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -list.html

The article was published in March 2015 and is now out of date. When Moshiri bought into Everton, Usmanov became the sole owner of the Red and White shares.


  
 
 
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I didn't watch the Utd game today but it was an impressive result. I expect them to be strong contenders this season. They have declined obviously since Fergie and have had several below par finishes but I also think the overall lack of quality of their squads has been exaggerated. They've had a lot of talent who just haven't clicked and the balance has been wrong but this summer appear to have added decent quality and importantly, players with size and in Matic, a dominant midfielder with winning mentality.


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Post #294045  Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:14 am 
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If Sanchez leaves then maybe we were a little hasty in selling Sanogo.


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Post #294046  Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:58 am 
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At Stoke next. Never an easy place to get a result. I think everyone agrees we need another signing before the window closes. I doubt we'll get one. Wenger will pat himself on the back for saving the club money.
I wish there was some way we could accomodate Lacazette and Giroud in the same XI.
The midfield pairing needs to get sorted. Find the right combination.

Hoping for a win at Stoke before we got to Anfield. Hate to see Man Utd back...if they really are.

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Alexis is in Paris? Rumors.

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Post #294049  Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:11 am 
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They have to be considered first or second favourite this year because they have a successful manager, a strong club and the most expensively assembled squad in British history.

They really don’t. They’ve been terrible the last few years, and while Matic is a good signing that could help free up Pogba their squad just isn’t as good as ours, Man Citys, Chelseas or Tottenhams in my opinion. As far as I’m concerned Mourinho must prove he still has what it takes at this level.

But yeah, impressive result against West Ham. Looking forward to a week of hearing how great the tallness of their players are. Just can’t see how they could’ve scored those goals if Martial, Pogba and Lukaku weren’t over 6 feet tall.


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Post #294050  Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:52 am 
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Hi all, Mee’s son here.

August 11th was Dad’s birthday, this would have been his 71st. I can guarantee that he would have spent hours of this one on these infamous green pages. Me and Mum both agreed he’d have secretly liked nothing better. Following a less than convincing opening day victory, it’s also a safe assumption that he wouldn’t have the most optimistic outlook for the season ahead…

Seemed like as good a time as any to check in. Glad this community seems to be still going strong, hope you’re all doing well


Hi Jonathan,

It's so sad that your dad is no longer with us. His tongue-in-cheek "doom and gloom" Arsenal prophesies were so beautifully written, without even a hint of bad language or abuse, you could not help but smile whenever you read them.

I think everyone really misses him on here.

Regards.....Soc

I second that, Soc. Those Jeramiads were delightful. And he never stooped to abuse. He is certainly missed.

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Come on Haz, don't keep making up these b%*&s%*^ excuses for our defensive ineptitude.

It's not excuses, it's a fact. We are very good at defending set pieces - that doesn't mean the second Vardy goal wasn't bad or that our defending as a whole is always good, but let's be a little objective here. We don't make that mistake very often at all.

For the first goal Xhaka was practically standing still, while Okazaki was attacking the ball, that's why he reached higher. That goal was the fault of Čech, not Xhaka. It seems you're judging every goal we concede from your narrative of Arsenal defending like schoolboys and it's keeping you from being able to do any rational analysis of our defensive play.

We may be good at defending set pieces, but conceding from every shot on target is worrying ... and this is not the first time.

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Post #294052  Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:31 am 
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A disappointing draw at Watford, and with Champions League qualifiers to come - it must tough for a club to begin its Premier League preparations with such matches in mind. Where does one place one's focus? It's a conundrum. One's sympathies are, of course, with Klopp and his team.

Indeed. The proverbial lumpy custard is coursing through the veins.

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The Ramsey change was totally necessary but Leicester really shot themselves in the foot with the subs they made. Played right into our hands and showed tactical naivety from Shakespeare.
Measure for measure methinks the Frenchman won the day.

Plan B or not Plan B, that is the question?

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Recipe for disaster. Neo Nazi, KKK and other such similar groups march in Virginia for the removal of Confederate general Robert E. Lee's statue's removal. Counter protesters, Virginia is an 'open carry' state which on its face is mind boggling. Protesters armed, legally, publicly! Amazed its not kicked off yet, nor do I want it to.
Its insane. If we have to train police in how to use a gun publicly and even they get it wrong, how can a society have 'open carry' with firearms by people who have no training whatsoever?! Insanity. A case can be made for the home..but in public?


I know you haven't got the gonads to answer and you probably wont see this ; but I can't resist .

"A case can be made for a gun in the home " .......Tell that to the Japanese exchange student who decided to take part in Halloween ...... door knocked with a mask and got half his head blown off .

Neo Nazi , KKK and all these other irresponsible looneys .... ???

.. an Australian woman got shot dead last week by the COPS .... AND SHE WAS THE ONE WHO PHONED IN THE DISTRESS CALL .

" Police training " :laughing7: :laughing7: ..... shoot anything that moves .


A fish rots from the head down. If Trump isn't a putrid fish-head I don't know what he is.

Try to bear in mind why the 'right to carry arms' is entrenched in the US constitution.

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For those who like Pink Floyd can highly recommend the exhibition at Victoria and Albert Museum. Very well put together. Was a bit disappointed that their version of 'See Emile Heskey Play' was not shown, although 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond', their tribute to Ian Wright, was triffic.

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old man of hoy wrote:
For those who like Pink Floyd can highly recommend the exhibition at Victoria and Albert Museum. Very well put together. Was a bit disappointed that their version of 'See Emile Heskey Play' was not shown, although 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond', their tribute to Ian Wright, was triffic.


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without even a hint of bad language or abuse


Oh he abused me a few times especially when he felt I had gone too far in laughing at Kernow ( I would have liked to have chatted to him about my recent trip to the Scillies).

He also sent me a lovely book on Chile because he knew of my great interest in the country.

Says it all really - much missed as everybody says.


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For those who like Pink Floyd can highly recommend the exhibition at Victoria and Albert Museum. Very well put together. Was a bit disappointed that their version of 'See Emile Heskey Play' was not shown, although 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond', their tribute to Ian Wright, was triffic.


Syd Barrett was overrated discuss...


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A fish rots from the head down.


Haven't heard it but it's definitely a prog rock album title...


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Post #294060  Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:46 pm 
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Rumours are we are negotiating with Chelsea over Ox. Why would we solve a huge problem for Chelsea? Would we re-invest the money?

Since we've gone to 3-4-3 Ox has been quite an important player in the system. It isn't as though Walcott is going to play RWB.

To be honest we have left ourselves in a total mess as far as the squad is concerned. This summer was a huge opportunity to really make a change and a statement. 2 weeks left of the window and only a £40m spend so far. I know money doesn't resolve every problem but we haven't got the answers within the squad, Wenger has been trying that old trick for years "let's improve what we have, signings are not the answer" well he has failed to improve what we have. Time for some fresh blood.

2 more signings required and decide before we deal with any of sanchez/Özil/ox potentially leaving. Once again we're are left having to trust the man who controls every aspect of the club and has proven year after year incapable of taking us any higher. The first game of the season proved we will just be served up the same as last year


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Obviously I want us to do well but as a football fan and a fan of the EPL, its exciting that so many clubs are good and anything can happen.
I will say this though, Chelsea and the Manchester clubs feel they can raid us and Liverpool at will almost but sperz players generally are loyal and have bought into the spirit. Not sure I give much credence to the Delli Ali rumors.
I am hoping sperz derails this year, and I would 'looove it' if Mourinho had another bad season.

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Obviously I want us to do well but as a football fan and a fan of the EPL, its exciting that so many clubs are good and anything can happen.
I will say this though, Chelsea and the Manchester clubs feel they can raid us and Liverpool at will almost but sperz players generally are loyal and have bought into the spirit. Not sure I give much credence to the Delli Ali rumors.
I am hoping sperz derails this year, and I would 'looove it' if Mourinho had another bad season.


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Post #294063  Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:32 pm 

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Obviously I want us to do well but as a football fan and a fan of the EPL, its exciting that so many clubs are good and anything can happen.
I will say this though, Chelsea and the Manchester clubs feel they can raid us and Liverpool at will almost but sperz players generally are loyal and have bought into the spirit. Not sure I give much credence to the Delli Ali rumors.
I am hoping sperz derails this year, and I would 'looove it' if Mourinho had another bad season.

If it sounds like a Goth and looks like a Goth....

Come on, buddy, Goth? Or not?

What accent is he trying to mimic with 'looove it'? Certainly not London or Cockney. Merseyside? If so, why? Would probably be more relevant to Klopp being he's at Liverpool.


  
 
 
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If it sounds like a Goth and looks like a Goth....

Come on, buddy, Goth? Or not?

What accent is he trying to mimic with 'looove it'? Certainly not London or Cockney. Merseyside? If so, why? Would probably be more relevant to Klopp being he's at Liverpool.


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Post #294065  Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:47 pm 

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What accent is he trying to mimic with 'looove it'? Certainly not London or Cockney. Merseyside? If so, why? Would probably be more relevant to Klopp being he's at Liverpool.

Kevin Keegan. Don't you remember he fell in love with him a few years ago...................

I see, thanks. Keegan comes from Doncaster.


  
 
 
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To be fair a net spend of £600m in 5 years when starting with a title winning squad and a great youth set up should lead to a team that can challenge. Utd have a lot of very good players, but now they have a Manager who has bought the players he wants for his style and unlike his predecessors is under absolutely no pressure to use the academy. As long as he's willing to play attacking football, he can do what he wants and spend £200m every summer. They have to be considered first or second favourite this year because they have a successful manager, a strong club and the most expensively assembled squad in British history.

I'd have City as favourites, Utd second faves and between us and Chavs third faves. As it stands Chavs need to add a few players and hope Hazard hits the ground running. Spuds' squad remains pretty small and there's the Wembley issue which will hopefully see them slip back out of the top four (I accept this may just be wishful thinking!). Mourinho has had a lot of success making his teams defensively strong and very physical through the spine - a winning formula that we also once had. They've got a lot of talent there already like you said, just hope Mourinho fails to turn them into a cohesive unit because the potential is there for them to have a proper shot at the title. Our squad is close or just behind theirs at the moment, we really need to add at least one more player.


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Klopp seems to disregard the physical side of the game in this country as well as neglecting his defence, a bit like Wenger (Mourinho is the opposite). It was highlighted perfectly against Watford who are bang average but dominated Liverpool physically and scored three goals out of it. For this reason I can't really see the scousers progressing much from last year. Hoping Coutinho goes too.


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Post #294068  Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:46 pm 

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Klopp seems to disregard the physical side of the game in this country as well as neglecting his defence, a bit like Wenger (Mourinho is the opposite). It was highlighted perfectly against Watford who are bang average but dominated Liverpool physically and scored three goals out of it. For this reason I can't really see the scousers progressing much from last year. Hoping Coutinho goes too.

I'm yet to be convinced Klopp is quite as excellent as his reputation suggests. To be fair I'd say the same of Guardiola. That isn't me saying they're rubbish managers. Far from it. I'm simply unsure they're both quite as good as their respective reputations suggest.

Having said that I'd rather have either of them than Wenger at Arsenal.


  
 
 
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A fish rots from the head down. If Trump isn't a putrid fish-head I don't know what he is.



Oh no it doesn't ... try dropping a dead shark / sting ray on the wharf ..... what goes off first is the liver / entrails .

Trump might well be a moron but he isn't the reason for the putridity ; it was there long before he arrived .


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For those who like Pink Floyd can highly recommend the exhibition at Victoria and Albert Museum. Very well put together. Was a bit disappointed that their version of 'See Emile Heskey Play' was not shown, although 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond', their tribute to Ian Wright, was triffic.


Syd Barrett was overrated discuss...
Oh yes agree with that, but he did give the early Pink Floyd a distinctive guitar sound and he was the most handsome of front men. Gilmour is obviously the better player.

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Hi all, Mee’s son here.

August 11th was Dad’s birthday, this would have been his 71st.


A good ole boy , always a pleasure to converse with ..... Joe Meek , old cars

I think with that age group .... Old Man , Guru , Long Time , myself .......there is a certain class , extra intellectual dimension not apparent in a lot of our younger posters . :icon_mrgreen:


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Post #294072  Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:26 pm 
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There's a video of Henry analysing Lacazette's first 90 minute for Arsenal. He specifically picks out Xhaka and saying how Arsenal need to learn what Lacazette does, learn his movement. Showed a number of times Lacazette made a good run for the ball over the top, saying Xhaka is more than good enough to play the ball especially when he's quite deep with very little pressure on him, but often Xhaka sees the run too late or is just not used to having someone make that run so it isn't his instinct in this team to go longer.

Henry talked about Petit and the passes he played for Anelka....and himself.

The formation suits Xhaka, more time on the ball and he has two dedicated wide wing backs, Lacazette going in behind and Özil coming between the lines. If he gets time and gets his range his passing could be great for us this season. I'd love to see us go a bit more direct at times


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Rumours are we are negotiating with Chelsea over Ox. Why would we solve a huge problem for Chelsea? Would we re-invest the money?

Since we've gone to 3-4-3 Ox has been quite an important player in the system. It isn't as though Walcott is going to play RWB.

To be honest we have left ourselves in a total mess as far as the squad is concerned. This summer was a huge opportunity to really make a change and a statement. 2 weeks left of the window and only a £40m spend so far. I know money doesn't resolve every problem but we haven't got the answers within the squad, Wenger has been trying that old trick for years "let's improve what we have, signings are not the answer" well he has failed to improve what we have. Time for some fresh blood.

2 more signings required and decide before we deal with any of sanchez/Özil/ox potentially leaving. Once again we're are left having to trust the man who controls every aspect of the club and has proven year after year incapable of taking us any higher. The first game of the season proved we will just be served up the same as last year
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Post #294074  Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:38 pm 

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Rumours are we are negotiating with Chelsea over Ox. Why would we solve a huge problem for Chelsea? Would we re-invest the money?

Since we've gone to 3-4-3 Ox has been quite an important player in the system. It isn't as though Walcott is going to play RWB.

To be honest we have left ourselves in a total mess as far as the squad is concerned. This summer was a huge opportunity to really make a change and a statement. 2 weeks left of the window and only a £40m spend so far. I know money doesn't resolve every problem but we haven't got the answers within the squad, Wenger has been trying that old trick for years "let's improve what we have, signings are not the answer" well he has failed to improve what we have. Time for some fresh blood.

2 more signings required and decide before we deal with any of sanchez/Özil/ox potentially leaving. Once again we're are left having to trust the man who controls every aspect of the club and has proven year after year incapable of taking us any higher. The first game of the season proved we will just be served up the same as last year
ZZZZ

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Mee liked his poetry He might have enjoyed this one by Kim Addonizio?

'What Do Women Want?'

I want a red dress.
I want it flimsy and cheap,
I want it too tight, I want to wear it
until someone tears it off me.
I want it sleeveless and backless,
this dress, so no one has to guess
what’s underneath. I want to walk down
the street past Thrifty’s and the hardware store
with all those keys glittering in the window,
past Mr. and Mrs. Wong selling day-old
donuts in their café, past the Guerra brothers
slinging pigs from the truck and onto the dolly,
hoisting the slick snouts over their shoulders.
I want to walk like I’m the only
woman on earth and I can have my pick.
I want that red dress bad.
I want it to confirm
your worst fears about me,
to show you how little I care about you
or anything except what
I want. When I find it, I’ll pull that garment
from its hanger like I’m choosing a body
to carry me into this world, through
the birth-cries and the love-cries too,
and I’ll wear it like bones, like skin,
it’ll be the goddamned
dress they bury me in.

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Very high possibility we will lose 2 players to key EPL opponents before the window closes. Let's hope we have at least 1 top class player coming in as well. 2 more weeks of media hype over nothing (something)?

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Very high possibility we will lose 2 players to key EPL opponents before the window closes. Let's hope we have at least 1 top class player coming in as well. 2 more weeks of media hype over nothing (something)?

I assume you are not talking about DeBuchy and Jenkinson/Theo/Wilshire.

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Very high possibility we will lose 2 players to key EPL opponents before the window closes. Let's hope we have at least 1 top class player coming in as well. 2 more weeks of media hype over nothing (something)?

I assume you are not talking about DeBuchy and Jenkinson/Theo/Wilshire.


Haha, any of those 4 going will not weaken us too much. Was thinking of Alexis and Ox, but I think you knew that anyhow :icon_mrgreen:

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I assume you are not talking about DeBuchy and Jenkinson/Theo/Wilshire.


Haha, any of those 4 going will not weaken us too much. Was thinking of Alexis and Ox, but I think you knew that anyhow :icon_mrgreen:

If the stories about the Ox to Chelsea for 25 million are true [ which I seriously doubt ] I'd bite their hand off and be on the next plane to Senegal , Cameroon ...... wander down to their local parks looking for a 6' 1" man mountain to bolster our midfield .
When you check out their national sides all their players are playing in Europe and I'd reckon there must be a ton of talent trying to come through .
Getting a work permit might be problematic .


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Getting a work permit might be problematic .

Yes, but as long as he’s tall it’s worth a shot. As they say ‘talent wins games, defense wins championships, tallness just wins’.


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