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Post #293001  Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:13 pm 
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So, Sanchez is off. It seems he is using no CL as the ready excuse but he was leaving before it was certain. It can't be to an EPL rival. He has to understand that. At some point we have draw a line about moving to a rival. It never seems to be a Man Utd, Chelsea or City player going to a rival. Has their been? Maybe but a name eludes me at this writing.

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Post #293002  Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:39 pm 

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So, Sanchez is off. It seems he is using no CL as the ready excuse but he was leaving before it was certain. It can't be to an EPL rival. He has to understand that. At some point we have draw a line about moving to a rival. It never seems to be a Man Utd, Chelsea or City player going to a rival. Has their been? Maybe but a name eludes me at this writing.

Tevez, Mata.

Aren't you blocked dec? If he does block all these people, I'm not sure why he keeps asking all these questions as there's a good chance the posts of those knowing the answers aren't going to be visible to him.


  
 
 
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Tevez, Mata.

Aren't you blocked dec? If he does block all these people, I'm not sure why he keeps asking all these questions as there's a good chance the posts of those knowing the answers aren't going to be visible to him.

Ya. I'm blocked. I thought there might be a prize :angel4:

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Post #293004  Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:05 pm 
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How are we selling Chesney to Juve for £8m?.

In the current market a young keeper of that calibre (one of the best in Italy last season) should be worth £15m+.

They must be rubbing their hands together.

Exactly my thoughts.
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Is it just me or do Monaco seem more receptive to selling players to everyone but us.
Silva bakayako both sold and rumours mandy also to city.
If we are that serious why didn't we try and get the deal over the line before they had done any business at All????


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dec wrote:
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So, Sanchez is off. It seems he is using no CL as the ready excuse but he was leaving before it was certain. It can't be to an EPL rival. He has to understand that. At some point we have draw a line about moving to a rival. It never seems to be a Man Utd, Chelsea or City player going to a rival. Has their been? Maybe but a name eludes me at this writing.

Tevez, Mata.

Gabriel Heinze. Fergie said 'no' to his move to Liverpool when Rafa was there. So Gabby went to Madrid. Just thought I'd add that.

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Shocking behaviour by Arsenal in Australia for the Half-Full Cup contenders. Two wins, played well and the fans and kids enjoyed themselves. How dare they do that? Fear not lads, things should revert to normal for you in China, with Bayern ready to put you back on track.

Good luck to Federer today, but I fancied Cilic before the tournament began. He might be a dream-spoiler.

No. Federer will handle him.
He did!

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Post #293008  Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:41 pm 
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No. Federer will handle him.

He did that and more. His last three matches have been against really big servers and he has utterly dismantled them. The man is astonishing.

True Dec ..... but as I'm sure the Bermondsey Talent Scout would agree ...... accuracy not power was the key here .

Marin's big boomers were in the main within reach , whereas Roger got him time and time again with a slower slider out wide ; especially to the forehand court .

With the arrival of Borg and Connors every coach on the planet decided double handed backhands were the way to go , two hands you must get more power right ....? but it limits your reach and is harder to change strokes .

Federer with his single hander a simple twist of the racquet and he can slice or top spin in a hearbeat . His top spin backhand was lethal and a thing of beauty .
Federer played a masterful game mixing things up , slices getting that big 6'6" body bending low .

Impossible to know whether Cilic's injury was real or a ploy , he got the crowd on his side and sometimes the opposition can switch off mentally .

Bernard Tomic the Ozzie of Croatian pedigree admitted at a press conference he called for the trainer when there was nothing wrong with him , in an attempt to break up his opponents rhythm .

Parallels with another Croat ... Goran Ivanisevic ...big serve but blows a bit hot and cold .

Wasn't quite as one sided as Hoad v Cooper , Laver v Mulligan or Newcombe v Bungert but it was pretty plain sailing

... and so ends this in depth Guardian tennis review ...well done Roger well deserved .


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well done if you said Robin and Steve ... or did you guess Andy

Nope. Serena and Venus,


At a Trivial Pursuit evening in the Principality , a bottle of wine on offer

..... they asked "name the christian names of the tennis playing Williams sisters "

John 1 shouted out "Esther ... and " hold on boyo I know this one "........er ahhhm ... [ thinking hard ] .......er ...... JPR "


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AmericanGooner wrote:
So, Sanchez is off. It seems he is using no CL as the ready excuse but he was leaving before it was certain. It can't be to an EPL rival. He has to understand that. At some point we have draw a line about moving to a rival. It never seems to be a Man Utd, Chelsea or City player going to a rival. Has their been? Maybe but a name eludes me at this writing.
Gabriel Heinze. Fergie said 'no' to his move to Liverpool when Rafa was there. So Gabby went to Madrid. Just thought I'd add that.

Yes, I was thinking within the EPL and they didn't want to. I'm sure there are an example or two, but the point is not with the track record we have, RvP, Clichy, Adebayor, Nasri, etc. to the clubs in our own league. Some of the players we maybe sold willingly (Kolo possibly) but not their best players and they didn't want to, its rare and its a sign you are no longer among the very top clubs if you are consistently losing your best to the clubs in the same league.

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Seems American police mistook this Australian woman for an unarmed black guy. The cop conveniently has his body cam off and the car cam off. This was the same city that recently let a cop off for killing a guy with his girlfriend and her daughter in the car. Feared for his life.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/australian-w ... 59509.html

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So, latest rumor Moussa Dembele from Celtic if (when) Sanchez goes.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFzjG2AuC7E&t=43s[/youtube]

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Post #293013  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:19 am 
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Nope. Serena and Venus,


At a Trivial Pursuit evening in the Principality , a bottle of wine on offer

..... they asked "name the christian names of the tennis playing Williams sisters "

John 1 shouted out "Esther ... and " hold on boyo I know this one "........er ahhhm ... [ thinking hard ] .......er ...... JPR "
Kenneth?

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Post #293014  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:00 am 

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Yes, I was thinking within the EPL and they didn't want to. I'm sure there are an example or two, but the point is not with the track record we have, RvP, Clichy, Adebayor, Nasri, etc. to the clubs in our own league. Some of the players we maybe sold willingly (Kolo possibly) but not their best players and they didn't want to, its rare and its a sign you are no longer among the very top clubs if you are consistently losing your best to the clubs in the same league.

If you hadn't blocked dec you'd have seen Tevez and Mata are examples. Or I suppose you had seen that and you're pretending not to, as I'm assuming dec's post that Zed replied to would have been visible to you before you took the care to delete any trace of dec's post in your response. The general point I raised with dec yesterday still applies though. Why does American ask all these questions if he has genuinely blocked many of the posters who could give him an answer, perhaps even most of the ones who are likely to?


  
 
 
Post #293015  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:25 am 
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No. Federer will handle him.

He did that and more. His last three matches have been against really big servers and he has utterly dismantled them. The man is astonishing.

He is at least half cat.

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The Sydney games were a joy to watch .... brilliant festive atmosphere , the whole crowd just happy to see our team on show ...no moaning gits like Claude , Robbie , and the knob with the headscarf and nose ring .

Arsene enters , the fans clamouring for his autograph , I thought to myself " I'm glad this old w***ker is still in charge


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Post #293017  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:04 am 

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No. Federer will handle him.
He did!

Apparently Federer didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament. Is that because everyone else who's capable of beating him were knocked out by someone else before he had to face them (the same principle that used to give me hope even fairly recently that Arsenal might win the Champions League if other teams could knock the Spanish giants and Bayern out)?

Wonder when the last Wimbledon winner didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament, and who was it? Or has it ever been done before? My guess would be there might be more women than men who have done it as they only have to win two sets to win each match, whereas men have to win three sets.


  
 
 
Post #293018  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:20 am 

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The Sydney games were a joy to watch .... brilliant festive atmosphere , the whole crowd just happy to see our team on show ...no moaning gits like Claude , Robbie , and the knob with the headscarf and nose ring .

Arsene enters , the fans clamouring for his autograph , I thought to myself " I'm glad this old w***ker is still in charge

The fans would probably clamour for the signature of Arsenal's manager whoever it was.

Is, as you describe him, "the knob with the headscarf and nose ring" Bully? If so, I agree. I've been near him at a couple of away games and he's an absolute tit. Arsenal's two most famous non-celebrity fans (Piers Morgan is probably the most famous of the lot), Bully and Maria, are in my view both utter pains in the posterior.


  
 
 
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Arsenal have sold 19-year old British midfielder Dan Crowley to Willem II for a £600k initial fee.
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Post #293020  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:34 am 

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He did!

Apparently Federer didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament. Is that because everyone else who's capable of beating him were knocked out by someone else before he had to face them (the same principle that used to give me hope even fairly recently that Arsenal might win the Champions League if other teams could knock the Spanish giants and Bayern out)?

Wonder when the last Wimbledon winner didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament, and who was it? Or has it ever been done before? My guess would be there might be more women than men who have done it as they only have to win two sets to win each match, whereas men have to win three sets.

Apparently it's been done four times before by Don Budge in 1938, Tony Trabert in 1955, Chuck McKinley in 1963 and Bjorn Borg in 1976. So Roger Federer in 2017 is the fifth person to have won Wimbledon without losing a set over the entire tournament.


  
 
 
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Bernard wrote:
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He did!

Apparently Federer didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament. Is that because everyone else who's capable of beating him were knocked out by someone else before he had to face them (the same principle that used to give me hope even fairly recently that Arsenal might win the Champions League if other teams could knock the Spanish giants and Bayern out)?

Wonder when the last Wimbledon winner didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament, and who was it? Or has it ever been done before? My guess would be there might be more women than men who have done it as they only have to win two sets to win each match, whereas men have to win three sets.

Borg was the last man to do it. No idea with regard to the women.

Federer was supreme. I'm not sure any if the other big 4 would have troubled him. Not unless they hit their own peaks.

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Post #293022  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:42 am 

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Apparently Federer didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament. Is that because everyone else who's capable of beating him were knocked out by someone else before he had to face them (the same principle that used to give me hope even fairly recently that Arsenal might win the Champions League if other teams could knock the Spanish giants and Bayern out)?

Wonder when the last Wimbledon winner didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament, and who was it? Or has it ever been done before? My guess would be there might be more women than men who have done it as they only have to win two sets to win each match, whereas men have to win three sets.

Borg was the last man to do it. No idea with regard to the women.

Federer was supreme. I'm not sure any if the other big 4 would have troubled him. Not unless they hit their own peaks.

You must be including Djokovic, Nadal and Murray as three of the other four, as even I've heard of them. Who is the other one?


  
 
 
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Borg was the last man to do it. No idea with regard to the women.

Federer was supreme. I'm not sure any if the other big 4 would have troubled him. Not unless they hit their own peaks.

You must be including Djokovic, Nadal and Murray as three of the other four, as even I've heard of them. Who is the other one?

The Big 4 are Fed, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray. I could have made it a bit clearer.

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Post #293024  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:11 am 

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Arsenal have sold 19-year old British midfielder Dan Crowley to Willem II for a £600k initial fee.
He becomes player number 3 to leave the club this season, taking Arsenal's net spend to -£45.4m so far.

Personally not at all sorry to see him go. O bviously I don't know him and am just judging from what I've seen of him on the pitch but he always seemed a wrong 'un to me with a bad attitude to colleagues and coaches. A Billy Big Boots if you like.

I thought Hodd said pretty much the same. Words to the effect of Crowley not being as good as he thought he was. dec couldn't recall Hodd saying that, but after one of kiwipete posts I'm more confident he did.


  
 
 
Post #293025  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:21 am 

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The Big 4 are Fed, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray. I could have made it a bit clearer.

Thanks. I mistakenly took what you said as meaning there were four others who you wouldn't have expected to trouble Federer.


  
 
 
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Shocking behaviour by Arsenal in Australia for the Half-Full Cup contenders. Two wins, played well and the fans and kids enjoyed themselves. How dare they do that? Fear not lads, things should revert to normal for you in China, with Bayern ready to put you back on track.


And with that, Mr Hoy took his big barrel of sarcasm and put it back in the garden shed. "Plenty there to keep me going until November at least" he mused to himself "Although I might need a top-up around the time we play Lokomotiv Vinkovci in the Europa League. His neighbour Ada waved cheerfully at him from across the fence which probably needed a touch of creosote. "Lawks, My Hoy, they're sitting down to discuss Brexit again this morning, any news on the trade deal with the Solomon Islands that will restore our dignity as a self-governing nation?" Hoy looked at her sternly.

"What have I told you that walls have, Ada?"

"Ears, My Hoy?"

"Indeed. We must simply trust the real Prime Minister Mr Corbyn to do his best for us and secure a Brexit on the best possible terms for the many and not the few."

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Federer was supreme. I'm not sure any if the other big 4 would have troubled him. Not unless they hit their own peaks.
Of course a great performance by Federer, but things went his way a little. Both Djokovic and Murray were unfit and Nadal, who was in top form, just happened to lose a five-setter he might have won. Federer would probably have been favourite against Nadal, but it could have been a great contest.

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Even Maria's friends don't like to sit next to her. I went to an Arsenal ladies match at Wycombe's ground a couple of years back. Just before kick off she came along my row with 2 other people and her seat was to one side of me, the other 2 on the other side. As you would I offered to swap seats with them so they could sit together and one of them was very quick to decline the offer, laughing. And don't get me started on her bloody ridiculous chants. When I go to Boreham Wood I make sure I'm as far away from her as it is possible to get in the ground...and she's till bloody annoying.

She sits right below me. She's in Club level and we're West Upper. She is so *%^@*** annoying with her stupid, made-up chants and constantly taking pictures.

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And with that, Mr Hoy took his big barrel of sarcasm and put it back in the garden shed. "Plenty there to keep me going until November at least" he mused to himself "Although I might need a top-up around the time we play Lokomotiv Vinkovci in the Europa League. His neighbour Ada waved cheerfully at him from across the fence which probably needed a touch of creosote. "Lawks, My Hoy, they're sitting down to discuss Brexit again this morning, any news on the trade deal with the Solomon Islands that will restore our dignity as a self-governing nation?" Hoy looked at her sternly.

"What have I told you that walls have, Ada?"

"Ears, My Hoy?"

"Indeed. We must simply trust the real Prime Minister Mr Corbyn to do his best for us and secure a Brexit on the best possible terms for the many and not the few."

It was not usually Mr Hoy's way to set people right but sometimes it just had to be done.
Continuity Hoy's manifesto promise 1: 'For every barrel of misery that is posted or flown by the Gleiber Bleak House Boys, I'll post two of positivity. Fun for the many, not gloom for the few.'

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He did that and more. His last three matches have been against really big servers and he has utterly dismantled them. The man is astonishing.

True Dec ..... but as I'm sure the Bermondsey Talent Scout would agree ...... accuracy not power was the key here .

Marin's big boomers were in the main within reach , whereas Roger got him time and time again with a slower slider out wide ; especially to the forehand court .

With the arrival of Borg and Connors every coach on the planet decided double handed backhands were the way to go , two hands you must get more power right ....? but it limits your reach and is harder to change strokes .

Federer with his single hander a simple twist of the racquet and he can slice or top spin in a hearbeat . His top spin backhand was lethal and a thing of beauty .
Federer played a masterful game mixing things up , slices getting that big 6'6" body bending low .

Impossible to know whether Cilic's injury was real or a ploy , he got the crowd on his side and sometimes the opposition can switch off mentally .

Bernard Tomic the Ozzie of Croatian pedigree admitted at a press conference he called for the trainer when there was nothing wrong with him , in an attempt to break up his opponents rhythm .

Parallels with another Croat ... Goran Ivanisevic ...big serve but blows a bit hot and cold .

Wasn't quite as one sided as Hoad v Cooper , Laver v Mulligan or Newcombe v Bungert but it was pretty plain sailing

... and so ends this in depth Guardian tennis review ...well done Roger well deserved .



Listen to Sue Barker over there........when did you become the forum's resident tennis expert?. :laughing7:

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Listen to Sue Barker over there........when did you become the forum's resident tennis expert?. :laughing7:

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Seems American police mistook this Australian woman for an unarmed black guy. The cop conveniently has his body cam off and the car cam off. This was the same city that recently let a cop off for killing a guy with his girlfriend and her daughter in the car. Feared for his life.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/australian-w ... 59509.html

Well American - when you have a culture that worships the gun and claims that everyone should have the right to walk abòut with them, then what happens is that a lot of people shoot each other. Including cops, and of course toddlers.


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The general point I raised with dec yesterday still applies though. Why does American ask all these questions if he has genuinely blocked many of the posters who could give him an answer, perhaps even most of the ones who are likely to?

I think he's only posting to the nice posters, like Hodd, Goonie and gooner 7. He really wants to avoid the terrible trolls who should take a long hard look at themselves like you, Bernard, Dec, Hazuki, Exiled, the fearsome Kiwi, Abu and of course yours truly.


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Post #293034  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:41 pm 

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She sits right below me. She's in Club level and we're West Upper. She is so *%^@*** annoying with her stupid, made-up chants and constantly taking pictures.

If she can afford a seat in club level, is she well off then? After all, she must be retired so presumably lives on a pension.


  
 
 
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That's a great shout on the cans of Coke, John. That would have been around the time of the cola wars. Sweatbands and Coke. A dynamite combination.

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For those interested in seeing how many women have won the Wimbledon title without losing a set, see link. There are lots! In the 'modern' era Little Mo Connolly lost just 19 games in winning the title back in 1953 and 1954. Kiwi remembers it well.

http://www.wimbledon.com/pdf/LSWinnersw ... ngaSet.pdf

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How much is a club level season ticket?

Btw I *%^@** love 'Now 80s' on sky. They're doing a best selling countdown at the moment. Band Aid will be number 1, any guesses for number 2. Ooooh Adam and the Ants @ 15 with Stand & Deliver. Great fun....

Relax? Ride On Time? Take My Breath Away? Come on Eileen? They seemed to be at the top of the charts for months.

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Four price levels.

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I remember watching Wimbledon as a kid and I'd be salivating over the cans of coke they could take. A lot of players used to take a can and take a few swigs from it as they walked off. I used to wonder why they didn't take them all.
The guy who maintains our fish pond told us a horrific story about his former addiction to Coca Cola. He only finally got off it a few years ago and he is now in his 40s. Did his teeth in badly and cost him thousands in dental fees to put right.

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Its all Wenger's fault...

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