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Post #373641  Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:24 pm 
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Everton must be off their rocker if they are going to pay fatboy his 250k a week. that chubby little *%^@ looks well past his best


Too right, his best was a long time ago now. How long has it been now since Moyes and then Van Gaal took over? because he's been largely shite for all of that period.


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...Then I start getting offers of cheap tickets all over the place. Mind you airfares and accomodation it is costing a *%^@ load. I had better see some good players on the pitch.


Walcott is on his way. :blob9:


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...Then I start getting offers of cheap tickets all over the place. Mind you airfares and accomodation it is costing a *%^@ load. I had better see some good players on the pitch.


Walcott is on his way. :blob9:

I hope to catch up with Theo personally and give him some feedback on his performances. Box of tissues on the desk and a glass of water for him.

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Looking at Lacazette's highlights package he seems to thrive on giving and receiving fast accurate passes .
Özil will be on the same wavelength for sure but Ramsay and Chamberlains overhit specials might cause the new guy some frustration .

I could see Alexandre and Walcott combining well if Theo had the wherewithal to apply himself . Perez also if given the chance .

He seems an angry little bee type player .... could be a key to unlocking park the bus defences that have frustrated us in the past


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I hope to catch up with Theo personally and give him some feedback on his performances. Box of tissues on the desk and a glass of water for him.

yeah , yeah I can see it now ; Mr Hardarse Redneck Townsville Boy all primed for action ., waiting outside the ground , Arsenal team coach rolls in .

.... deep breath .. " Okay here we go , I'll tell this little pr*ck what I think of him .....useless t***ser "

. er ahhmmm yes ....... ahmmm . " Theo , Theo .... any chance of an autograph mate .....? "



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I hope to catch up with Theo personally and give him some feedback on his performances. Box of tissues on the desk and a glass of water for him.

yeah , yeah I can see it now ; Mr Hardarse Redneck Townsville Boy all primed for action ., waiting outside the ground , Arsenal team coach rolls in .

.... deep breath .. " Okay here we go , I'll tell this little pr*ck what I think of him .....useless t***ser "

. er ahhmmm yes ....... ahmmm . " Theo , Theo .... any chance of an autograph mate .....? "



" Glad you signed the new contract Arsene "

*%^@ you nailed me straight away. Am I that transparent. In all seriousness do you believe Theo has a place in the team if we play 3 at the back?

Just spent a couple of hours at the V8's practice sessions. Only about 27 degress outside but jeez the humidity is about 70-80% which for winter is not the usual.

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There are some sobering figures in this report regarding Santi's contribution compared to others at the club who might fill his position. None of the others have the same overall abilities. Simply I think we have to replace Santi and this will cost a mint.

http://eplindex.com/80317/arsenals-opti ... njury.html

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Post #373648  Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:55 am 

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There are some sobering figures in this report regarding Santi's contribution compared to others at the club who might fill his position. None of the others have the same overall abilities. Simply I think we have to replace Santi and this will cost a mint.

http://eplindex.com/80317/arsenals-opti ... njury.html

But do we want a like for like player to replace him? Let's be brutally frank, we didn't look like winning the title even when he used to play, however fine a player he was. So might it be better to replace him with a different type of player? I know Xhaka is a big bloke, but I wouldn't mind someone with more physical presence than Cazorla being brought in to replace him and that's why I wasn't upset when I saw Carvalho being rumoured as a target. He's okay with the ball, but I'd describe him as efficient in possession rather than brilliant and I wouldn't lose any sleep with the idea of Xhaka and Carvalho (or someone like him) playing alongside each other. He certainly doesn't have the skill of Cazorla. But there again with Özil, and if we do sign Mahrez, isn't that all the creativity we'll be likely to need rather than someone who might just do the same, even if it's to the same standard, as Cazorla?

We saw a difference when the three at the back was introduced. Perhaps what Arsenal need most is another change further up the pitch, rather than trying to find someone with "the same overall abilities" which, as you suggest, may "cost a mint."


  
 
 
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There are some sobering figures in this report regarding Santi's contribution compared to others at the club who might fill his position. None of the others have the same overall abilities. Simply I think we have to replace Santi and this will cost a mint.

http://eplindex.com/80317/arsenals-opti ... njury.html

But do we want a like for like player to replace him? Let's be brutally frank, we didn't look like winning the title even when he used to play, however fine a player he was. So might it be better to replace him with a different type of player? I know Xhaka is a big bloke, but I wouldn't mind someone with more physical presence than Cazorla being brought in to replace him and that's why I wasn't upset when I saw Carvalho being rumoured as a target. He's okay with the ball, but I'd describe him as efficient in possession rather than brilliant and I wouldn't lose any sleep with the idea of Xhaka and Carvalho (or someone like him) playing alongside each other. He certainly doesn't have the skill of Cazorla. But there again with Özil, and if we do sign Mahrez, isn't that all the creativity we'll be likely to need rather than someone who might just do the same, even if it's to the same standard, as Cazorla?

We saw a difference when the three at the back was introduced. Perhaps what Arsenal need most is another change further up the pitch, rather than trying to find someone with "the same overall abilities" which, as you suggest, may "cost a mint."

I have trouble identifying someone currently at the club who can play near the Santi position and give the forward passes and the killer ball that opens up defences. I had hopes of Campbell but obviously Wenger did not see the same positives. Too many current players who spend most of the game with safe sideways or backward passes and often whilst they do this the opposing defence pours back. Maybe as you speculate playing with the back 3 may change a few things. Players will need to perform this year because I think all goodwill has been used up with a large number of the supporter base.

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We need at least one more key player in. This one to replace the creativity we have been missing since Santi got injured. Come on Wenger, close this one out fast.

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But do we want a like for like player to replace him? Let's be brutally frank, we didn't look like winning the title even when he used to play, however fine a player he was. So might it be better to replace him with a different type of player? I know Xhaka is a big bloke, but I wouldn't mind someone with more physical presence than Cazorla being brought in to replace him and that's why I wasn't upset when I saw Carvalho being rumoured as a target. He's okay with the ball, but I'd describe him as efficient in possession rather than brilliant and I wouldn't lose any sleep with the idea of Xhaka and Carvalho (or someone like him) playing alongside each other. He certainly doesn't have the skill of Cazorla. But there again with Özil, and if we do sign Mahrez, isn't that all the creativity we'll be likely to need rather than someone who might just do the same, even if it's to the same standard, as Cazorla?

We saw a difference when the three at the back was introduced. Perhaps what Arsenal need most is another change further up the pitch, rather than trying to find someone with "the same overall abilities" which, as you suggest, may "cost a mint."

I have trouble identifying someone currently at the club who can play near the Santi position and give the forward passes and the killer ball that opens up defences. I had hopes of Campbell but obviously Wenger did not see the same positives. Too many current players who spend most of the game with safe sideways or backward passes and often whilst they do this the opposing defence pours back. Maybe as you speculate playing with the back 3 may change a few things. Players will need to perform this year because I think all goodwill has been used up with a large number of the supporter base.


Has Campbell definitely moved on? We waited years before he finally got his work permit. He was fairly consistent for us, and even showed better penetration than Walcott. Just too bad he isn't French or British. Wenger does favour his French players too much.

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https://www.arsenal.com/news/mertesacke ... al-academy

excellent news. Per is a great person to keep around the club.
And with Jens joining the backroom staff excellent news too.
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david.d wrote:
https://www.arsenal.com/news/mertesacker-lead-arsenal-academy

excellent news. Per is a great person to keep around the club.
And with Jens joining the backroom staff excellent news too.
Important to keep these characters/leaders as part of the backroom team and overseeing other roles.

indeed David, brilliant news, BFG is a total legend, good to have mad Jens on board as well, maybe Wenger has been listening after all....


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https://www.arsenal.com/news/mertesacker-lead-arsenal-academy

excellent news. Per is a great person to keep around the club.
And with Jens joining the backroom staff excellent news too.
Important to keep these characters/leaders as part of the backroom team and overseeing other roles.

indeed David, brilliant news, BFG is a total legend, good to have mad Jens on board as well, maybe Wenger has been listening after all....

1st time AW has been directly involved in a major decision around the academy........

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Morning socrates. Without getting involved in the debate over the Premiership's best midfielder, what I would say is that in my view the biggest example of an Arsenal midfielder dominating a Manchester United midfield was Petit in the 0-1 win at Old Trafford when Overmars scored. It must have been the 1997/98 season. Think it was the game where that bloke in the away section was televised doing his famous 'yeeees' celebration when we scored, or was it at the end of the game? From memory Vieira didn't even play that day so he wasn't there to help Petit. But Petit was simply masterful without him and pretty well ran the show on his own. Or that's my memory of it anyway.
Vieira played. Starting line-ups that day:

Manninger; Dixon; Adams; Keown; Winterburn; Paddy; Petit; Parlour; Overmars; Dennis and Wreh.

Schmeichel; Irwin; Berg; Johnsen; Gary Neville; Curtis; Phil Neville; Scholes; Beckham; Sheringham and Cole.


And Keane was out injured for that game (and most of the season--after the infamous Håland tackle). Just saying ...

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indeed David, brilliant news, BFG is a total legend, good to have mad Jens on board as well, maybe Wenger has been listening after all....

1st time AW has been directly involved in a major decision around the academy........

Is that a good thing Hodd?

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Is that a good thing Hodd?

No comment.... my new, very much improved, contract says I can't

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Is that a good thing Hodd?

No comment.... my new, very much improved, contract says I can't

Fair enough - congrats on the new contract.

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Well I couldn't drill down to that detail in the site I had. I take it you have confidence that he will go well in the EPL.

I haven't seen him play much, so I wouldn't say I'm that confident, more hopeful. There's a lot about Lacazette that makes me think he'll be a big improvement on what we have. And I do like both Giroud and Welbeck, so it's not just that I'd see anyone rather than them.


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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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yeah , yeah I can see it now ; Mr Hardarse Redneck Townsville Boy all primed for action ., waiting outside the ground , Arsenal team coach rolls in .

.... deep breath .. " Okay here we go , I'll tell this little pr*ck what I think of him .....useless t***ser "

. er ahhmmm yes ....... ahmmm . " Theo , Theo .... any chance of an autograph mate .....? "



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[a] *%^@ you nailed me straight away. Am I that transparent.

[b] In all seriousness do you believe Theo has a place in the team if we play 3 at the back?

[c] Just spent a couple of hours at the V8's practice sessions.

[d]Only about 27 degress outside but jeez the humidity is about 70-80% which for winter is not the usual.


[a] Yes ..... :icon_mrgreen:

[b] Yes again ...... there is a tendency to say when Theo's playing it was like our ten against their eleven but don't forget other teams have their "passengers" as well .... Rooney for starters .
I like the old Tommy Docherty philosophy , have plenty of quality attackers on the field so the other team is full bore on defence and our three men don't have much to worry about .

[c] Good stuff .... the daughter and I went to the last Hamilton 400 ... we had a brilliant spot on Empire Street ... the cars appeared around this slight curve then turned a 90 degree and thundered off ... the sound of them changing down and booting it ; a beautiful thunderous cacophony of noise that Beethoven would have struggled to match and what disappoints me it never comes thjrough on the television . Might write to Neil Compton suggesting they put a a mike near the tailpipe because inside or out there is never a V8 sound .
The humidity ..... :blob9: My son and I were more comfortable working in Blackwater at 42 degrees than at Gove in 31 .. because of the humidity .. 30 % versus 95 % .
The latter , change your shirt five times a day ... pants soaked .... one thing I don't miss about Oz is that stinking ever present heat .


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Mahrez looks like a non event which I think is a good thing at the prices currently being quoted.Give them 10mil + Theo.

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Is that a good thing Hodd?

No comment.... my new, very much improved, contract says I can't


Ooooooh you little temptress ... like Marlene Dietrich whispering from behind a sheer curtain .

Arsene .... " ahhh Lauren , Steve , Ivan , Stan could you guys grab a cup of coffee , I want to ask Hodd for his thoughts on Lacazette " :icon_mrgreen:


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Gaz from Oz wrote:
Mahrez looks like a non event which I think is a good thing at the prices currently being quoted.Give them 10mil + Theo.

Would Walcott want to go to Leicester . After their brief nova of success , Leicester seems likely to settle back into obscurity from whence they came ; not much of an attraction .

Hasn't Theo just signed a new contract , he'll be with us for another couple of years then probably do a stint with Southampton .

Both with a ton of pace I've got hopes he and Lacazette might combine well .


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Who is the only player in English football to captain a title winning side in 3 different decades?

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Hmm....not liking how this is looking.

http://dailycannon.com/2017/07/chelsea- ... oyed-them/
Chelsea could turn to Alexis Sanchez to replace Diego Costa if they miss out on Romelu Lukaku, according to reports.

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I like that Mahrez is keen to join us.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/07/arsenal-t ... y-6763535/

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Too easy a question for this forum...

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There are some sobering figures in this report regarding Santi's contribution compared to others at the club who might fill his position. None of the others have the same overall abilities. Simply I think we have to replace Santi and this will cost a mint.

http://eplindex.com/80317/arsenals-opti ... njury.html


Why do you think Wenger's after Lemar? Can play wide, can play at 10, can also play deep and pull the strings. A perfect replacement if he can develop his right foot more.

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Cant see Wenger doing it but Remi Garde suggests playing Giroud and Lacazette together.
http://dailycannon.com/2017/07/garde-la ... -together/

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No comment.... my new, very much improved, contract says I can't

Fair enough - congrats on the new contract.

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No comment.... my new, very much improved, contract says I can't


Ooooooh you little temptress ... like Marlene Dietrich whispering from behind a sheer curtain .

Arsene .... " ahhh Lauren , Steve , Ivan , Stan could you guys grab a cup of coffee , I want to ask Hodd for his thoughts on Lacazette " :icon_mrgreen:

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Mahrez looks like a non event which I think is a good thing at the prices currently being quoted.Give them 10mil + Theo.

Would Walcott want to go to Leicester . After their brief nova of success , Leicester seems likely to settle back into obscurity from whence they came ; not much of an attraction .

Hasn't Theo just signed a new contract , he'll be with us for another couple of years then probably do a stint with Southampton .

Both with a ton of pace I've got hopes he and Lacazette might combine well .

As to what Theo wants I don't care. I want him to put in an effort when he is selected for the team but he doesn't care, so I would call that about even.

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Great to hear Hodd! :53big-emoticons:

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There are some sobering figures in this report regarding Santi's contribution compared to others at the club who might fill his position. None of the others have the same overall abilities. Simply I think we have to replace Santi and this will cost a mint.

http://eplindex.com/80317/arsenals-opti ... njury.html


Why do you think Wenger's after Lemar? Can play wide, can play at 10, can also play deep and pull the strings. A perfect replacement if he can develop his right foot more.

I don't know much about Lemar but if those are his qualities he sounds as if he could be a what we require.

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Hey Kiwi,

Did you watch the rugby match? Sky completely lost the plot in terms of hype. Your lads were outstanding for 30mins but the number of knock-ons was ridiculous. Sort of fitting that the series (which has been hugely underwhelming) ended with a fudged refereeing call and a draw.

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How was that not a penalty for offside? He caught it so even if it was instinctive I think it's very harsh on the ABs. Felt sorry for Kieran Read but respect to him for his reaction on the pitch and let's face it, it kind of reverses a ton of dodgy decisions that often go their way.

Messy series, how they can keep pretending it was some kind of unforgettable we-were-there experience is really odd.


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How was that not a penalty for offside? He caught it so even if it was instinctive I think it's very harsh on the ABs. Felt sorry for Kieran Read but respect to him for his reaction on the pitch and let's face it, it kind of reverses a ton of dodgy decisions that often go their way.

Messy series, how they can keep pretending it was some kind of unforgettable we-were-there experience is really odd.

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How was that not a penalty for offside? He caught it so even if it was instinctive I think it's very harsh on the ABs. Felt sorry for Kieran Read but respect to him for his reaction on the pitch and let's face it, it kind of reverses a ton of dodgy decisions that often go their way.

Messy series, how they can keep pretending it was some kind of unforgettable we-were-there experience is really odd.

Scott Quinell should never be allowed in front to a mic again


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Kieran Read's daughter should though, she was hilarious trying to drink the rain.

I.missed that. Switched off straight away as I couldn't take anymore. You are right. It was definite penalty.

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Patrick Kluivert's son Justin is not too shabby for an 18 yo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRAzIlLiJu8

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