More likely is that they can't get to the bodies on the top floors as conditions are very dangerous. Don't forget they're not looking for bodies but evidence that there were bodies. All they will find in most cases is ash. I heard on the first day that temps could be around 1000 deg centigrade. If true they have a near I'm possible job.

On LBC a resident of a nearby property said he saw them removing body bags inbthe early hours of the morning yesterday.

Similar thing happened in Cyprus around 5 years ago. Munitions exploded near the countries largest power station and 12/13 were killed. The then President kept away from the place fearing a lynching stoked up by the opposition parties he said out of respect for those mourning. May must have listened to her security team and arranged a visit to congratulate the fire and police services. She now has to dig here self out of a deep hole.

The local Council has been missing and deserve a lot of criticism.

Why the use of the 'n' word???
Is that how you describe black people including myself?

When I clicked on the link a comment said Mbappe was in it as well. If he the young kid or baby? Wouldn't it suggest Giroud is staying also?

Overall, I'm not convinced to be honest. It would mean Puma have gone back to a darker red, which some may like (not me). But I think the brighter red is the stand out memorable thing about the Puma kits, and if they're only going to supply the kits for two more years would they want to change the main thing that makes their kits different and identifiable as Puma (apart from their logo)? It also just doesn't seem a very good photo on a commercial basis. Why have the woman not wearing a kit, the bloke with the extravagant beard in a grey suit and a scarf, other players (presumably they're players) not in kits, and the baby in a kit with Mbappe's head on it? If it is true, I do prefer white socks though.

I suspect the commercial photo from Puma would concentrate on advertising the kit with players, not tracksuits. Having said that, I've not checked such photos from previous years so maybe it's what Puma do. But I've doubts.

When you are retired it is good just to tweak things at time. I will keep pushing him(OMOH) until there is a few expletives forwarded to me. Just watching the V8s from Hidden Valley.

What's Roy Keane doing in it as well?

http://www.footyheadlines.com/2016/12/a ... e-kit.html

To come to Kiwis defence on this I saw this as him quoting a typical American reaction, not necessarily how he thinks himself.

They're biting today!

Indeed. Bang out of order.

Really? Where's the American connection to a debate about a tower block fire in London?

It's a viewpoint, albeit a very silly one for reasons explained many times before, that you've consistently made over the years. I was simply concerned for your well-being in case you do actually believe it. I suspect you might have done once. But if it was a wind-up this time, I'm pleased.

Really?! Brum?! (sarcastically), why Fox News in America is far more dangerous than you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mRPj8jEo5A

Just watching the Maori Lions game. Is it only me who thinks this, or does anyone also think the haka is, well, a bit silly. All the sticking out of tongues etc.
Maybe the Lions could perform a little dance themselves in reponse - they could take it in turns. A full hey-nonny-no morris dance from the english, an irish jig, or even better a full on riverdance, a scottish reel, or whatever the Welsh do on the traditional dancing front.

It says it was being released in late May.

I suspect you think even at his age that Roy Keane might be an upgrade on Xhaka though.

Kiwi

How does a blue-eyed, blond lad with a Scottish surname get to play for the Maoris?

Many a true word is spoken in jest

Mbappe was shopped in.

Its all silly. Rugby doesn't bear thinking about. American football. They hadly ever kick the ball? Cricket isn't merely silly, it is prolonged futility. The Haka seems comparatively sensible and brief.

settle down Big Balls .... I used the n word to graphically show Chris how irrational it was to penalise people on accusations alone .

Read my explanation you bed wetting old nanny ..... engage your two remaining brain cells

The American connection is exactly as my friend from Townsville says .... you couldn't get a more graphic example of penalising people without due cause than the way white Americans treated African Americans .

I like the normal run of the mill Ka Mate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujnXeL5zC1M

but on this ocassion both my son and I remarked the same , the Maoris decided to cook up something different ... it went on too long wasn't to co -ordinated and in a word was pretty cr**p .

Unfortunately a bleedin awful analogy.

Hope Pakistan beat India tomorrow. I would normally want India to beat them, but Pakistan have been going through a tough time in cricket recently and I'd like to see them pull off a surprise to regain some of their former status.

No i wont settle down
You could have used the word bloke or man but chose to use the n word.
I suppose its only us who rape women eh

A row of blokes doing a Morris dance or prancing around in kilts might not be quite as intimidating. Welcome to give it a try though.

Metaphor?

Intimidating, no. But it would be funny.

Or perhaps more importantly when do we have to spell out slurs? Make reference to in context perhaps but this forum has members from all over the world, All races, religions, ethnicities. Whether its this or anti semetic references to Tottenham, or whatever, it shouldn't have a place here.

Horrendous use of language

Some interesting rule changes are apparently to be discussed. Not sure everything seems problem free. If the referee's watch or the stadium clock stops at various points when the whistle blows to avoid time wasting, shouldn't there be a whistle blown to start the game again? But then it mentions players taking free kicks being allowed to kick it to themselves, for example meaning they can dribble away when fouled on the break. But when a free kick is taken so quickly, it is surely going to be hard to get the whistle blown to start the timing of the match again. Also time wasting can occur when taking a throw. Does a whistle get blown when the ball is thrown, or have I missed something?

Various fairly minor changes seems a good idea. Like substituted players leaving the pitch near where they are rather than having to walk across the pitch to get off. Also, goal kicks being taken from the side the ball went out. That used to be the case, and the rule change giving keepers the choice of which side to take the goal kick has enabled them to waste taste by moving, often very slowly, the ball to the other side of the six yard box.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40311889

I suggest you read the whole email. It is about peoples reaction to a situation and how people want retribution against a group without realising if there is someone who individually committed an offence, then it is them that must be punished. Would I have expressed it the same way - no, but the comments were a theme I have seen time and again in American issues, particularly the south of the US. This is a typical kkk theme. Hence the US connection. Sorry if you thought I was defending the remark, I was putting it in context.

True I could have used the word bloke or man but it wouldn't have conveyed the same irrationality of punishing someone on accusations alone .

I'm wondering how much of your outrage is fueled by the fact I didn't agree with your take on the "odious bitch " in Post # 480114 .

" Only us who rape women " oh please .

It wasn't my intention to upset anyone so apologies to both you , Dave and Old Man

Amazing American ...... how you've never got the balls to fight your own battles ...... but when someone you don't like is involved you magically appear out of the woodwork to add weight to the opposition .

If you weren't such a spineless half wit I'd be really hurt .

He won't see this Pete, because of course he has you blocked.

Yeah son and I gave it a view .... Fords 1 and 2 made good viewing .

My first car was a 1939 Ford V8 coupe and I've always been a Ford man ever since ...although I have owned and loved five HQ Holdens .

Surprisingly it is Kiwi Shane van Gisbergen the one I most like to see run into tyre wall .

True John

My prediction on the Lions is not running according to plan . Maoris last night ; very disappointing , were never in it , totally outplayed .
I actually wanted them to beat the Highlanders .

There are some big units in your mob the All Blacks might not have it all their own way .

The Lions have always been tour favourites , 1959 and 1971 stand out some magically names from the foggy past , Tony O Reilly , Peter Jackson , Gareth Edwards , Phil Bennet , Barry Johns , Bev Risman .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv6UoAnsVRE Here's one for Brom , I was tempted to go down and take part but in the end opted to chop down a tree .

Sander Berge

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footba ... ews-gossip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuE00aMM2UA