Just read Liverpool supposedly have provided up to 200 million pounds for Klopp to spend.

How good was Aaron Ramsey last night?

Best player on the pitch, and the Serbs have some good ones.

The problem with the show Steve is that it was initially pre trump so now trump has been elected he has effectively robbed the writers of all their potential storylines as our current reality is far more ridiculous than the corruption showed in the first few series of the show

Just having a wee browse through the last few days , as I don't come on here these days ( or many football sites) but I thought I'd see the election feedback out of curiosity

"Bollocks" your right your talking it , like everything there are some politicians who are out for themselves and many others who put in many selfless hours in return for a salary that is far less than many would make elsewhere , unfortunately the bar room cynic crap gets banded around by uninformed people

My local mp peter Kyle just increased his majority from 1200 to 18000, in an area such as hove , why do you think it went up that much ? ( hove hadn't had a Labour mp until, 1997) , he did it through being a hardworking sincere local mp ( and I predict in 5-10 years will be a national figure, maybe even leader) , I know this is true because I've spoken to him regularly and he has answered e mails to my wife on an issue she had with a detailed replies within half a day . Next door in Brighton caroline Lucas increased her majority as the greens only mp, she is a national figure, so unless your in denial you you will already know that she is far from being a careerist. That's two round here , there are many others , equally there are many other crap ones too.

I don't know maybe you have a bad local mp yourself which gives you that view

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Amidst the transfer speculation ..... considering his lack of input why aren't there moves afoot to offload Walcott , and why is no - one interested in buying him .

Take Bernard along , you two seem to sing from the same hymn sheet .

You know yourself you get up close to roadkill and it has a smell about it. Same with manure. Theo has the whiff.

Too bad we didn't apply that rule to RVP. It all sounds good but really you could get around it by Man City finding a friendly German club - lets call them Schalke and get them to buy Alexis for a large amount of money.

Then say a day later sell them on to someone for 10% more - lets call that club Man City. Of course that takes trust between all the parties and lets be honest most of these clubs cannot be trusted. You might say that Arsenal can put in a clause that says the person cannot be sold on to a english club. However I think such a clause would be invalid as it is restraint of trade.

Its not like it hasn't happened before. I am pretty sure Clive Allen never played a game for us. All Mr Smiley games to play but wouldn't you love to be doing this type of work and playing with peoples minds. I would.

I'd say David Bentley had more pure talent than Gnabry. Had his attitude matched his ability on the ball, Bentley could have been one hell of a player. Gnabry has potential, albeit I remain to be convinced his potential could definitely be considered higher than Bentley's. I'd also say at this point Ospina is a better goalkeeper than Gnabry is a winger. According to reports, Arsenal are releasing Ospina for a lower fee than they got for Gnabry. So I'm not sure using other players reported transfer fees is always the most reliable way to judge what Arsenal should have got for Gnabry, because of the Ospina example. Gnabry was an unproven youngster when he left Arsenal. He made a bit of a name for himself at Bremen, but the lack of opportunities Wenger gave him at Arsenal might suggest he wasn't totally convinced by him. Had he stayed at Arsenal last season, would Wenger have given Gnabry the chances that he got at Bremen? Can't prove it but personally I doubt it. Hence I find it hard to get as angry about the price Arsenal got as you appear to.

Whose style do you think I'm trying to imitate, regarding your parody comment? Furthermore, I wasn't meaning to offer the rumour that Arsenal would prefer to sell Sanchez to Bayern than an English rival as firm evidence. It is, after all, only a rumour. But I do try to recognise when evidence is based on rumour. Maybe I fail in that respect occasionally, but it is an attempt I make by routinely adding qualifications to a point I'm making. Do you honestly think you always do? If I'm wrong, I apologise but from reading your posts I get an impression that you are prone to dismiss rumours that contradict the point you want to make, but are more prone to accept rumours that support whatever you're suggesting. As I say, if that's not fair I'm sorry. But it is an impression I get.

I'd hesitate before claiming my main debating style is attrition. I sometimes wonder if I could learn a thing or two about attrition from you these days. One other very important point. What have you taken as an insult by me towards you? I was saddened to see you claim I was insulting you, and if you really think I was then you misunderstood what I said. I actually enjoy reading many of your posts, even when I don't agree with them. However, as I've said I think you've overreacted over Bayern's role in this Gnabry issue, and have said some extremely unfair things about them as a club. I simply don't perceive it as an important an issue as you appear to, and have said so. Is that really what you consider an insult?

I do realise you presumably hate Bayern, but I'm really not sure why? Babu hated them, but admitted it was because he was jealous of them. I'm less certain what your reason is because although I'm a lifelong Arsenal fan, I genuinely believe Bayern Munich are the world's greatest football club. Therefore when you slag them off, and I consider it unfairly, you're very likely to get a reaction from me. Is that why you decided to on this occasion because, as I've said a few times, I think you're making a fuss over very little? I can certainly see why supporters of other German clubs might hate Bayern. I hate Manchester United for similar reasons. But you don't support a rival German club. So why do you hate Bayern so much? You certainly moan about them more than you do Manchester United, who I'd say over the years have done far more harm to Arsenal, the club we both support, than Bayern. What have Bayern done? Knocked us out the Champions League a few times and possibly got Gnabry for around a million quid, or was it euros, less than might otherwise have been the case. Big deal.

and does anyone really believe this twaddle , Alexis has a firm grip on Wenger's and Gazidis' privates . They can posture as much as they like ....if he wants to go to Man City , he will .

This is a situation where Silent Stan would step in .... lose 50 million by hanging on to him for another year .... not likely .

Last time Arsenal got tough with players was when they sent Hudson and MacDonald home from Australia , from memory I don't think either had much impact after that .

Well, they painted themselves into this corner, didn't they? Forever vacillating on buying quality players to improve the team. The vicious cycle will just keep going on with Stan and Wenger staying on.

It is difficult to believe Wenger's promises of building a top team and buying top class players. His track record showed otherwise for more than a decade.

This is where Wenger can start earning the money he is paid as a manager of personalities.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footba ... ier-League

Ramsay wants to be played the same way he is at Wales. Over to you Arsene. That would then mean we have 3 players roaming the field - Alexis, Özil and Ramsay. Mind you let us see how many are left at the end of transfer window.

The current state of the league is we can improve the side, bring top quality player(s) this summer and still end up 5th.
My personal opinion is that the last month of the season shows it wasn't just talent but what I always suspected, mental attitude We won some very very good matches. In the 10 matches since we lost to Palace, we won all but Tottenham. And there were some huge wins in there. We had title challenging form, 7 months or so too late.

So really don't need a complete squad overhaul. A few positions (striker, et al.) for sure. But the biggest change to challenging is belief. Its trying get to as close as the last several matches as possible in terms of belief.

Played a couple of pre season friendlies .... remember at the time the newspapers we saying we had the SAS strike force Sunderland Allen Stapleton ...sadly Terry Neill premature ejaculated and shoved him on in a swap for Sanson . Allen did pretty well for Spurs so who knows how it would have worked .

Have you seen this https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... +disguise+

Finally some good news ! Looks like they'll be no changes whatsoever in management from the top down.

Surely no one here could complain about that.

Victory for Wenger as his staff get new deals

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/victory-for-wenger-as-his-staff-get-new-deals-3qtsl9sf7

Arsène Wenger has won a significant battle with the Arsenal hierarchy after the club gave their blessing for him to retain all of his back-room staff for next season.

Maybe one or two of you all will care but congrats to the Golden State Warriors to win their 3rd NBA title in 4 years. Surprisingly LeBron James on the losing side has been in the finals the last 7 years I think with two different sides. Amazing. He may or may not be greater than Michael Jordan but to even be in the conversation is more than enough. Same with Kobe.

I stopped watching the NBA regularly years ago. I watched this finals or at least the last 30 minutes of it. If Lom thinks referring in the EPL is bad, he'd go mental if he was an NBA fan. Its obvious the league views the game as entertainment and the referees are told to look the other way to make the game more exciting. Its pathetically bad refereeing by decree. The refs will do their job only when its a decisive part of the game and the opposition complains. Even though both sides have been allowed to violate the rules the whole game.

Where did Stan's Denver Nuggets team finish the season? With a 40-42 record, 9th of 15 teams in the western conference.

I can't recall meeting these selfless sincere types in the political space. At least not here. All I've seen is politicians fighting each other and not for the love of democracy or their country but just to pull the other side down. Got a letter in the mail the other day from a local pollie who was blaming the other party for a mess that they'd inherited from his party. And that's not political 'spin' that just lying. Then there are the ones who drive their own religious biases through govt policy. Not only blinded by party allegience but their 'conscience'. Working inside government, the same level of blocking and obstruction for self interest is ridiculous.

I'd put most politicians in the same bucket as an estate agent but good on the ones who actually manage to do something meaningful.

As for "why do you think it went up that much?". I have no idea, maybe he told everyone what they want to hear or he writes really nicely.

There are a few world leaders who I have respect for what they're doing/done but I don't see that at the local pollie level that's for sure.

Report from a dodgy source suggests all backroom staff have been retained by the club.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/terri ... or-change/

Ringing those changes through the club I see.

Sorry just noticed Warrior had already beaten me to it

That was absolutely a great video. Kiwi will enjoy it. I must admit I don't really like be a passenger when speed is up at the top end but i like driving at that time. I take my hat off to Cameron Smith as he wasn't that scared at all. I would have been packing it with the way Murph was dressed.

Interesting the difference in political systems. Our politicians are completely owned by big money. In whatever form they take. Well, I'll qualify that. The Republicans are completely owned by special interests. Completely. The Dems, it depends. Mostly owned. Ever since Clinton talked them into taking Wall Street money and siding with big business in the early '90s. A devil's bargain. "If you want to stop losing to the GOP in landslides (Reagan, Bush the elder), then you have to do this." Its worked with regards to winning at times (two Presidents serving double terms since then), which hasn't happened for a Democrat since FDR in the 40s. But they sold their soul. The true progressives are few and the base is tired of the hypocrisy. The result is a nation that has shifted to the right. Far to the right. The center of 40 years ago is now ideologically a moderate Republican. Standard Dem principles (unions, war as a last resort, environment, basic human rights, etc.) are now seen as far left socialists.

Trump's election has pulled us even farther right with but now devoid of any moral center.

I remember a few years ago we were after that other Turkish maestro Tot Ali Uzelez. Never came to anything. Wenger Out! And Continuity Corbyn...

The problem is that modern societies need government (the tax cutting supply-siders are complete loonies/charlatans and get found out whenever they are in power). Government is 'good' to the extent that democracy works, and democracy only works well if people get involved. That means doing their homework about what politician are offering, join unions, starting new parties and unions if the existing ones are captured, etc.. Cynicism and apathy are exactly the wrong responses to declining political mores. Those will get you Donald Trump eventually.

I doubt that this fiasco is ideologically significant at all. He's hardly benefiting the Republicans, but he's just such a joke that even the hard right will be able to wash its hand of this. He's not their boy, after all. He is a creature of 'reality TV'. "Basil Faulty comes to the White House" isn't much different to 'the Apprentice", really.

So hopefully where it is significant is it's a shock to the electorate about how silly they have been in not taking politics seriously, and not heeding the warning signs.

Theo earns 140k a week.

Surely it pretty much starts and ends there

45 million for Sanchez. Shouldn't get his right boot, 60 million in today's market

I wouldn't sell do something to be sheer bloody minded if he's trying to move to city

Earns?

If I recall correctly, jealousy wasn't the main reason Babu gave for his hatred of Bayern. He also cited their arrogance and their unethical practices.

Plus Lome's distaste for Bayern doesn't make him fond of United, so why bring that up?

As I believe it hasn't been mentioned overmuch on here, didn't England spank the Aussies at cricket the other day? Stokes and Morgan were brilliant. Don't really care if we lose out to Pakistan- sending Smith's mob back home tail between legs was enough.

I've never noticed lomekian moan much about Manchester United, or certainly not as much as he seems to about Bayern these days. I specifically remember Babu admitting jealousy was a very major reason for for his dislike of Bayern. If you don't, maybe your memory is at fault. Because I actually asked him why he did, and that was what he said.

Did you see the highlights of the Pakistan vs Sri Lanka game? The celebration of one of the Pakistan fans at the fall of one of the Sri Lankan wickets made me laugh. Watch it for a few seconds at 16 mins 30 seconds.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... v-pakistan

lomekian, my exact quote was "I won't call your reaction hysterical, just way over the top." I actually said that to make clear I WAS NOT calling your overreaction hysterical. Simply way over the top. It was not meant as an insult, so you simply misunderstood what I meant if you took it as such. I know exactly what I meant, and you misunderstood me. If my life was dependent on a ball being controlled and passed to a sixpence forty years away, I would want Bentley to do it rather than Gnabry. These days I also think your desire to wear someone out via attrition is beyond mine. I just get too bored these days. I was in two minds whether to write this post and only did it to explain your misunderstanding of thinking I was implying an insult. I admire Bayern as a club massively. If you slag them off, you are highly likely to attract a post from me. If you really don't realise that, I'm surprised. I really would be surprised if Arsenal were likely to lose a vast amount in resale values over Gnabry. It just doesn't bother me as much as it presumably does you.

Correct Kiwi, Sanchez holds all the cards. If he goes to Bayern we'd have to accept a reduced fee. If he insists on City what do the club do? They can't insist on him staying without signing a new deal - we'd have a disruptive unhappy player who'd sign a pre contract agreement with somebody else in January. And we'd lose whatever fee is being offered. Unbelievable bad management that this situation even exists.

Evening bromley. I suppose it depends on how much less Bayern would pay than City, and whether Sanchez would join Bayern even if we accepted their offer. If it's £10m less (let's say Bayern are offering £35m and City £45m), I can understand accepting Bayern's offer. But if Sanchez desperately wants to join City and would rather stay at Arsenal another year and then join City on a Bosman, I'd probably accept City's £45m now.

Especially as we've been here before with van persie.
All avoidable by showing some ambition.

Anyone notice Mbappe wears the No.12 for France - just like Henry

SEASON TICKET NEWS

My brother joined the waiting list for club level season tickets in March 2017. He put his name down for four seats at about £3k each. He was told the waiting time would be about three years. The club have rung him twice in the past 24 hours to try and get him to buy the tickets for the coming season. Four behind the goal at £2.8k each or four in a corner at £2.6k each. He did not expect them so soon!

Agreed. I don't see any benefit in Arsenal allowing him to run his contract down. His going might not be so bad if we can buy properly this summer. But it's difficult to be confident of that happening. As has been noted recently on here, sorry can't recall by whom, City have plenty going forward already, so how much difference Sanchez would make for them is debatable. Having said that, I'd still much rather he went abroad. A big fat £100 million from China would be ideal

I think it was dec who made the point you do. I'm fairly sure david.d thought Sanchez joining City would win them the league, but dec suggested it wouldn't make much difference because City are already so strong going forward and it's their defence that needs improving.

It's a good argument for proportional representation too. It has its flaws but enables the voter to split their vote according to local and national preference.