I'm not Darren however I'll suggest the polls wrong. It just doesn't make sense. I can't see how labour can pick up that volume of seats.

He's rambling away not making any sense.

Pritti Patel shouting her mouth off about may, her views are loathsome but she'd properly get it though.

The carrier pigeon just arrived in Australia and I hear we're signing a bloke named Thierry Henry.

Noticed this from twitter..."The most disappointing thing about the UK election is there wasn't even a hint of Russian interference. It's like we don't matter at all."

This is *%^@*** bonkers. Btw, I'm onto a second bottle of wine so haven't a clue what's going on apart from people being on stage in Wrexham. I think this is all good though!

She is lovely to look at but what a *%^@. I have a soft crush on Sophie Raworth, Mishal Hussain and even Kuensberg. She would be a cruel mistress

Bayern Munich prepared to make Alexis Sanchez their highest paid-player with £350,000-a-week offer

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/bayern-munich-prepared-make-alexis-10587172

Jesus

IF ...you are referring to the Comey testimony I couldn't give a toss , the way I see it Americans are a braindead race of people hell bent on starting World War 3 .

It doesn't matter who is in charge they would still walz around meddling in other countries affairs because they have the military muscle .

After Brexit and Trump how can it be a surprise. Many probably just voting for the one that's not currently in power.

Give it time I'm sure CNN can cook up something .

Kurt unpacking his gear , he's like a ***^%$$ strangler fig..... he's taking over the house

..... two leaf blowers , two weed eaters , a chain saw , three sack trolleys , two LARGE motorbikes , his ute , car , four huge tool chests , two double beds , two fridges , a water blaster , weightlifting gear , two sets of golf clubs he's got more tools , drop saws , skil saws , power drills , battery drills , grinders than Bunnings , six spades , axes , picks , three pushbikes , two TV's .

Welcome home son.

Didn't realize Gibbs is 27! I keep seeing him as this 19yo breaking into the squad. 15mil is too high for him? In this day and age? I don't think so. He's a fine LB. Not Arsenal or top 4 quality but a very decent, solid LB.

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/ar ... 99998.html

Everyone is trying to raid Monaco the same way Leicester got was being raided. I like Sidibe, but I hear Man Utd are also after him. He can play both full back positions as well.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/08/djibril-s ... t-6694813/

So does that mean the UK has to negotiate Brexit with itself and Europe? Maybe a Brentrance is on the cards.

One thing I've learned down the years is it does matter. The cynical policies that Clinton would probably enacted, or even good-ol'-boy Republicans, would have been vastly better than the chaos this orange dipshit is unleashing, mostly it appears, out of sheer ignorance. Apart from everything else, he's *%^@** up Nato and the GCC is record time. What a tool!

Morning all

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So, possible hung parliament or whatever the term is from what I can tell from the news. Interesting times we are in.

Strong and stable indeed.

Brexit just got even more complicated. There might be a more realistic debate on it now though.

Crickey. Where are those last four seats? Presumably in the deep hick country somewhere?

Recounts I suspect. In one seat the tellers have been sent home 'cos so knackered. In one Scottish consitutency the Tories clung on with a majority of 2.

They are just utterly mental results all round. The Scots didn't save anybody except Theresa May.

I was certainly wrong that Corbyn's dodgy national security record would undo him - it seems that austerity a much bigger issue especially for young whose turnout obviously pivotal long may it last. Direction of travel all important but we won't see any of the manifesto in a action because...sorry to be a buzz breaker here...Labour still lost by quite some margin.

The debate might be realistic but it's pretty worrying that DUP have so much power now...

The effect of Sinn Fein?
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/ju ... parliament

SF have won 7 seats. Importantly for the W'Minster dynamic, the other nationalist party, the SDLP, who are supporters of Labour of most issues have been wiped out and lost all of their 3 seats - including John Hume's seat of Foyle - surely the death knell for them as they are irrelevant now in the North of Ireland.

DUP power is worrying and frankly the Conservative Party should be condemned for getting into bed with a party that is based on religious fundamentalism and whose worldview is out of step with the rest of the UK and the Republic of Ireland. The only benefits I can see from this arrangement are - softer border than May's hard brexit; more dinero for the North possible only for it to be squandered by the DUPPERS who have their hand in the till as evidenced by a number of recent scandals relating to them that largely caused power sharing here to be suspended, possibly permanently.

I don't think anyone was expecting Labour to actually win, that that isn't much of a wet blanket. The Tories will self-destruct now, I feel.

To be honest John, I'm not convinced SF are keen on restoring Stormont and certainly not w/o agreements on the Irish Language Act. And what chance now on the marriage equality being introduced in the north? Irish nationalist anger at the way the DUP behaved in Stormont is real and you can see that by the figures now voting SF and with the eclipse of the SDLP. There can be no return to Stormont for the DUP to run amok with financial scandals and blocking every issue that they don't agree with. May as well have had majority rule in that case.

Yesterday was the 11th GE since I could vote. The worse in my memory.

We used to have politicians canvass for our votes, like them or loath them they did represent us. They came around letting us know what they will be doing for you. You either looked at how it would benefit you or the bigger picture (maybe both) and vote. Now it's all about Don't vote for thema s they will do this or that. Wish they would stick to their own policies and stop debunking other parties.

OK! A few comedy programmes would take the rise out of them as they would most famous people, but today they are all ridiculed all the time. You cannot go on Facebook or Twitter without someone having the piss ripped out of them.

They mostly have no respect for voters and in turn voters lack respect for them. Labour has a vote for a leader and many of their party did not want him. Yet though he did not win, he did make a go of it. May was voted to replace Cameron, now might be a target for the Tory party to be replaced. These people as supposed to represent us but have trouble picking a leader.

What actually good did last nights result do for the country, on what some call an extraordinary night? What was extraordinary about a hung parliament.

There is no debate on social media just a load of anger, hate, outrage. Someone makes a comment, some reply, then the outrage on what they have said, the hate, the abuse follows. It's not for me actually doing anyone any good. TV debates, again just a load of shouting.

Where are we actually going. Social networking could be good, but No! let's just try to shut down and shout down those that disagree with us.

Would have rather had either party win with a majority than all this poxy politics hanging around like a bad smell.

Think you're letting hope rather than realism sway that view. The Tories didn't even self-destruct over Europe, so they won't over a poor election result. They will get rid of May before the next election (John's point about how her having some neck to hang around isn't that important as she won't be allowed to - see then end of my post), and modernise their policy towards social welfare. There were two main problems for them in this election. Their manifesto and a hopelessly uninspiring party leader. A softer approach to social care and May going will sort both out. The party won't self-destruct. It's a ruthless organisation geared to election success. I expect it to brush themselves off. May is a dead man walking (or woman to be pedantic). She'll hang around for a bit before the Conservative Central Office bigwigs open the trap door she's now standing on with a rope around her neck. Perhaps 'hang around for a bit' was the right term, considering the way I described her future political career being ended in the not too distant future.

Agree, I think the Tories best hope of getting a majority again are to move to the left, end austerity, produce better offers on social issues. Can't really see them running again with May; the vultures will circle and she'll be gone.

I can only see this cobbling along for a short while and then another election - although early reports say no real appetite for it on the tory side. A new leader would change that.

Don't see anyone out there though who is remotely capable of that. Yet

Sure, the Tories would cement their position if they moved to the centre. But is there someone in the wings who is going to provide inspiring and unifying leadership and reconnect with the base?

For labour this is a bit like going down 5-4 away at Barca or Bayern in the first leg of a ECL knockout tie. Hard to imagine for a Arsenal supporter, granted.

I hope you're wrong. She has to listen to the people and investigate why they voted as they did. She must look at Uni fees again, social and especially dementia care, the Health Service, Taxation etc all things the Tories have generally ignored. If she does she will become a great PM. If she doesn't then the Tories could lose a lot of seats at the next election.

*%^@*** partition. The truly *%^@ gift that won't stop giving.

You're witnessing the demise of the existing political systems. Politicians are *%^@ and everyone knows it. They're not smarter or better, nor can they make better decisions. People have access to far information than they did previously and whether it's factual or fiction will make judgement based on what they think (or are led to think). He who controls the information controls the people and In an increasingly fragmented information domain, politicians become almost irrelevant.

Totally disagree. We have some really good politicians, many of whom I am delighted to see back in parliament from both sides who do excellent work on behalf of their constituents sometimes in really difficult circumstances and for comparatively little financial reward.

They need to get Ruth Davidson into parliament - she would be a very good leader for them albeit the DUP would have no truck with her for obvious reasons (and she with them probably)!!!

Time for London to experience a bit of DUP. Enjoy!

yeah, it has dawned on me that this is the worst outcome for me despite early joy at Labour's progress. Unfortunately, not far enough and I wonder how they are going to win these extra seats now. I worry that the young, having made their way to the polling booths will now feel let down again. That will either motivate them further or see them drift away. At Labour's expense.

Bollocks. They work for getting reelected and perpetuating their own view of the world. Evidenced by most opposition objecting merely because the other side thought of it rather than it being the good of the country.

Oh well at least you can sit and turn your back when they appear on TV I guess.