I think they probably have a candidate in mind who probably can’t start until next year. I would get a short termer in immediately. The one I have in mind is Guus Hisdinck. Yep all the hanger oners are a problem. Get Guus to bring a defensive coach and the rest of the entourage stay but take directions from Guus. If they don’t like it negotiate a release. And I don’t care if he has them putting out cones while Mertesacker, Bould & Ljunberg help out.

Let’s try something. We are not even going to be in Europa next year so we have nothing to lose. Inaction is fatal.

Rich’s post about bookings compared to fouls surprised me as I agree with bubblechris, we deserved every one as far as I could see at the game. On this occasion it’s a non-issue, in my view anyway.

Morning Socrates. I strongly suspect you have hinted at an important factor. The ownership regime don’t want to pay up Emery’s contract, and as being a top four place is massively unlikely (for example, my guess is Watford are still mathematically capable of winning the league), why throw money down the pan on Arsenal when the LA Rams is Stan’s clear priority?

Maybe some of you find Wilts a bit repetitive but I honestly can’t argue with his views on Kroenke’s ownership.

I only noted it because that would be a surprising stat in any game. A yellow per 2 fouls. I said I didn’t watch the game so just wanted to see if it was justified.
We are miles top of the fouls per booking stat, something like a card every 3 fouls when some teams pick up a card every 11 fouls. It’s hugely disproportionate but every ref is treating us the same which leans more towards us being utterly stupid and unable to foul without it being blatant rather than any conspiracy- that’s not what I was getting at

Southampton managed 13 shots in the last 3 games combined. They had 21 against us!

Under emery this season we’ve conceded 56 more shots than we’ve taken.

How is this clown still allowed to be in charge?

If I tried to set up a team to play in to the hands of every single opponent and also play to the weaknesses of every one of my players you’d be hard pushed to do it better than Emery

At the moment every stat should have us in the bottom 5 of the table.

If emery continues for the rest of the season it wouldn’t be a stretch to imagine us sweating about being a few good wins for teams below us to pull us in to a relegation fight

Take your point Bernard,but I think the problem is larger than the simple economics of offloading Dick and his camp followers, the whole Club seems to be comatose from top to bottom,even allowing for a disinterested absentee owner who looks like he belongs in a police line up.

The handling of the issue surrounding that swivel eyed, duplicitous thief Özil has been farcical from whoa to go for instance. If I had Stan's money I'd pay out his contract and gift him to Dagenham & Redbridge for Christmas!
And then there's the debacle surrounding Xhaka. All the red herrings and spin under the sun won't change why he was booed off the ground in the first place. And a manager who claims not to know when or if he will play again? Pardon me squire, bu isn't it your job to know? Does he have a Hissy Fit clause in the contract? A Toys Out of the Pram codicil? Its all just a bloody shambles from where I sit, simple chap that I am. My wife has been wondering lately why I don't just stick to shoving bamboo under my fingernails, instead of crawling out of bed in the middle of the night in my dotage. Sadly, she has a point.

Watched Wrighty's interview with Bergy a while ago, and recall him saying that such was the passion a the Club back then that there was rarely a training session where they didn't have to break up a fight. Can't imagine the current shower even comprehending that level of commitment!

Simply can't see any top manager being willing to take on this mess even if the Board acted, which they won't given they don't have the balls god gave a gerbil!

Just seen the clip where Sokratis dribbled across his own area, was bullied off it and saints should have scored a simple 2v1 on Leno!!! It is the sort of mistake good teams make once a season. We do it 2-3 times every match!

Quite a few of them came from professional (or semi-professional*) fouls when we lost the ball and with our players upfield. We were caught like that very frequently. Özil never reacts in these situations, even when he is the one who has lost the ball. So its 10 v 11 when when we are out of possession.

We also pick up yellows from similar situations caused by *%^@*** around at the back. The final category is simple indiscipline (lip, handbags). There was a fair amount of that but I can't recall if there were any that led to yellows yesterday.

*Lacazette's was a case in point but I give him a pass because of his goals and general combative attitude.

Saw someone saw there are more elite teams than there are elite managers now. Some truth in that

perched on a chair in front of the computer at 3. 50 am I had similar thoughts ...

" What am I watching this sh**t for ."

Baffles me how every single person on this forum [ bar one ]
can see exactly what is wrong with Arsenal Football Club and yet the powers that be can't .....

how will that hit management in their pockets ...?

Organising a mass exodus means you've already paid your entrance fee .

I don't know about help out Gaz, I'd put them in the bloody team.

Surely it is just a case of when and how he is sacked and who he is replaced with. The owners (not the board) must be listening to Edu and Raul who surely can see that Emery is a busted flush.

The last time we won in the league was two months ago. No doubts, this is relegation form.

Teams that are in a relegation battle are always less than the sum of their parts. And we are certainly in this category. Individually we are better than the current performances. However the coach is failing to get the squad playing to their potential. Therefore he must go.

We are just waiting for the when and how.

BTW, at least we will not be playing Thursday night next season.

All have paid with season tickets anyway. Just walk out. The owners would not ignore that. Or all refuse to take seats until the tenth minute. Stay in the bars for the first part of the game

I'd give Arteta a go, Rich. We aren't finishing top four now so it really doesn't matter. A young, intelligent manager with an attacking philosophy.

Sadly, they don't want to pay Emery & co off so it seems we are stuck with him until the summer at least.

There's always a bloody pedant. You could start an argument in a phone box.

The way things are going we may need a specialist in keeping a club in the PL. Bring on Fat Sam.

I’m more and more convinced that emery is doing such irreversible damage that we are going to go in to another huge squad turnover. Remember we’ve turned over virtually the entire playing squad in the last 3 seasons.
The combination of highly paid players needing to be shifted, ageing players needing to be shifted and crucially the very best players wanting to leave, I think will mean the following players leave this squad in the next 18 months: Aubameyang, Lacazette, Özil, Xhaka, kolasinac, mustafi, Sokratis, torriera and Luiz possibly might retire somewhere else.
A complete restructure required yet again

Actually, I think Fat Sam would do a better job.

I’d go for it. And bring in someone to coach the defence.

We need an injection of personality to flow through the club

Not so sure we count as an elite team anymore. Maybe not even an elite club at the moment.

How harsh ... just like to clarify these matters .

I've just listened to Unai's post match interview if anyone can understand what he is on about you are better man than I Gunga Din .

And Pulis

Arsebog totally nails it today. This is much bigger than just Emery.

Just listened to two pundits commenting on Emery's post match interview. Like you I didn't have a bloody clue what he was on about.

It's got to the point where I'd welcome Allardyce or Pulis.

They should have subtitles.

Hi Darren,

Indeed. Not sure how this plays out now. If we hang on to Emery purely for financial considerations then that is a small club mentality but their argument would probably be that with top four gone already we might as well wait until the summer.

Personally, I'd make the change now and give the new manager a few months to get used to things so he can hit the ground running next season.

I saw someone tweet earlier that if the guys in control don’t get a grip soon we could find ourselves establishing ourselves as an upper mid table side. This is where they prove their worth or not.

Loved that. As we've all got the blues, let us have a bit more. May as well soak ourselves in it with Joe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Jzcu5SMy4

Who needs a manager/first team coach anyway?
Just let the first team squad vote every Friday. The players that get the most votes are in the first 11 on Saturday.
Avoids the manager having to make any awkward decisions.

I realise the rebound was put away but I suppose Leno has at least now saved a penalty. Must be the first since Čech against Watford.

The rumour on Bayern chat rooms are that they want to sign Leno to replace Neuer. Hope they don’t get him.

Did anyone expect anything different under Kroenke’s ownership? The whole thing seems inevitable to me. I’m not saying Emery is blameless. He bares a lot of responsibility for what’s going on with the playing side of things. I would thus welcome his departure, along with his back room staff (as routinely happens these days as when the manager goes his assistants seem to follow him out the door).

But it wouldn’t bother me if Sanllehi, Venkatesham and Edu also went. Along with the hypocrite Keswick who allegedly wants to retire in a hissy fit because the three of them plus Stan and Josh won’t sack Emery. After all, Chips is the man who sat on his fat arse doing nothing when Wenger should have been sacked years before he was.

Sok does this too much, and it is totally unnecessary. And where is the support to give him an outlet when he was clearly ambushed by too many opposing players? This is the most frustrating aspect of Arsenal's play right now. In failing to address it, just shows Emery's failure.

I suspect that "one" is simply trying to get a rise out of other forumnites.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... CbAHPH736s

Arsenal board start process of identifying Unai Emery's successor after fans turn on under-pressure manager again... with Max Allegri, Mikel Arteta and even sacked Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino in the frame

You clearly know nothing about football. Stop making a fool out of yourself.

Kroenke out before/along with Emery.

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