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Post #506401  Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:55 am 
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Freddie, you are a club legend, but the little I've seen so far, you are out of your depth. Long term, we are better off waiting in the summer for Rodgers if, understandably, he won't leave Leicester mid season.
Arteta may be a great assistant but that doesn't mean he'd be a great manager. Pat Rice was a great assistant.

Freddie has too much handle to turn the ship right now. My personal opinion is work on team defense. I did see some of that. He had everyone tracking back. The way to win right now is more of the 1-0 to the Arsenal way if we can defend as a team. The Kevin Keegan style isn't going to work.


Hey AG, only 1 match in and you are able to analyze the full capabilities of Freddie? Fantastic :53big-emoticons:



I heard something similar in the Man u v Spurs match. "Dele Alli in the form of his life under Mourinho" after his goal. 2 matches in and apparently that's the best anyone has seen him play. :1laughter:


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If Liverpool loses, my guess it will be during this time where its cold and they are playing more often. There will be an away match on a cold, muddy pitch, the players would rather stay in bed and they get a goal scored on them in a 0-0 match midway in the 2nd half.

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They are unbeaten in March, the league already sewn up. It's when its more about the fear of losing. We drew a lot of matches in the last couple months of the unbeaten season because of fear of losing. That's when they'll be vulnerable. I don't think they will lose to a top 4 side away but a tough midtable side away.

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Post #506403  Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:56 pm 
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AmericanGooner wrote:
If Liverpool loses, my guess it will be during this time where its cold and they are playing more often. There will be an away match on a cold, muddy pitch, the players would rather stay in bed and they get a goal scored on them in a 0-0 match midway in the 2nd half.

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They are unbeaten in March, the league already sewn up. It's when its more about the fear of losing. We drew a lot of matches in the last couple months of the unbeaten season because of fear of losing. That's when they'll be vulnerable. I don't think they will lose to a top 4 side away but a tough midtable side away.


So you're saying that if Liverpool are to lose this season it will be between now and the end of the season.

You may have a point there.


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Post #506404  Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:12 pm 
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My team for tonight:
Leno
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Torreira
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Post #506405  Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:20 pm 
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I can see Liverpool going unbeaten this season. I would even see them winning every game here on in which would be quite amazing. I don't think they will but it's not unrealistic to think they will.

Steady on Richie. You are suggesting that it's reasonable to think that Liverpool will win 37 of their 38 league games. That would make them the greatest English club side in history. I think that might be taking it a bit too far.

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Post #506406  Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:33 pm 
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Bellerin and Sokratis and torriera in for chambers, mustafi and Guendouzi

Tierney, Pépé still on the bench.

Basically if Özil plays Pépé doesn’t. And vice versa

Don’t like the formation with such little width


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Post #506407  Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:36 pm 
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Good point ..... sort of the same as Arsene Wenger and Alex Ferguson .


Morning KP.

AW had no sort of playing career but he had won French League with Monaco as a manager - and might well have won more if Marseilles hadn't fixed matches and bought their way to the top. AW was in demand all over Europe (notably Bayern M) before he left for Japan in protest at the corruption in French football. Ferguson never played international football - I think - but he'd been decent as a player with Rangers and he was enormously successful as a manager with Aberdeen, breaking the Old Firm's stranglehold on Scottish football and remarkably, winning a European trophy.
The comparison of both with Arteta in his current manifestation is pretty stark.



and greetings to you DHD .

I'm not talking Ferguson at Man Utd , Wenger at Arsenal ..... I'm saying all your points for disbarring Arteta were reflected by the other two at some stage of their career and they turned out okay given the chance .

You saying Paddy would be better because of his stature as a player , well the same could be said for Tony Adams and he hardly covered himself in glory in the managerial stakes .

Neither might be needed when Ljungberg guides us to an 8 - 1 demolition of Brighton in an hour and starts hauling in trophies by the truckload


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Rich wrote:
https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/news/arsenal-next-manager-diego-simeone-17362275

Pipe dream but if Simeone is getting itchy feet then is there a better 'available' manager in the world to fix our defence, our attitude, our work-rate, our off the ball positioning?

A manager with bags of personality who crafts teams in his own image. I feel that the Arsenal fans are dying to get on board with a charismatic firey manager, a bit of "us against the world".

One can but dream

Been saying he's the man to sort it out since the writing was on the wall for Wenger and the club of the Invincibles first turned into the Invertebrates. Won't happen of course.


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Nearly a big mistake in the first 40 seconds


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Luiz is a player in retirement mode, casual and care less.

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Post #506411  Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:26 pm 
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Lacazette has been fouled from the first two corners.


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Lacazette has been fouled from the first two corners.

Make that three

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Post #506413  Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:35 pm 
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We start our moves from the edge of our own area and struggle to get to half way as Brighton press high
Brighton start their moves 10 yards short of half way and build momentum to the edge of our box relatively unchallenged


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Post #506414  Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:37 pm 
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Typical, we push, the referee sees it. They push and pull, the referee ignores it.

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Evening all.

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42% possession

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Post #506417  Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:43 pm 
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Don’t like this formation with Özil wide right and Aubameyang wide left.

Brighton should be in front. We’re being totally penned in. Just awful yet again.

Where is the reaction, where is the energy, the new manager bounce. Why is Freddie just doing the same things Emery did?


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Typical, we push, the referee sees it. They push and pull, the referee ignores it.

Brighton have pulled our shirt every time we’re in the box!


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Evening all.

Any links please?

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Cheers Brom, but already used the free trial last month! Doh!

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Brighton by far the better team at the moment. Outplaying us.


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Hardly a surprise 0-1

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Post #506422  Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:52 pm 
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This is so poor. Brighton totally dominating. They’re quicker, hungrier, winning every tackle, every 50/50, they’re pressing


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Post #506423  Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:52 pm 
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We are making Brighton look good

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Well that was coming. Hopefully VAR may rule it out

No such luck

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Kola ball watching. In fact, the entire defence ball watching. Huge lack of urgency in this team. Only Torreira shows any real urgency.

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We are the worst team in the league. When you see the money spent on this team the talent that is in there we are the worst most underperforming team in the league.
We lack everything


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I’ve said it many times. We are incapable of a reaction. A reaction performance that is all about heart, desire, effort and professionalism. Every other team can do this. What does that say about our club and these players?


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Lacazette kicked in the box again. Penalties have been given for less by var


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What a load of shite.


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Too slow ......................... so many players who like to take extra touches

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Woeful. We can’t get ourselves out of this slump, look at the fixtures coming up, we are relegation candidates. Where are the points coming from if we can only take 3 points from the last 8 games?

We are in deep deep trouble.

Thoroughly embarrassed to be a fan of this club. There is being poor and then there is being poor with no effort, no pride and no idea what the hell youre doing. What is worked on in training?


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We will be near the relegation zone soon

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When you see this it’s baffling why martinelli and Pépé don’t get a chance


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Watching kiwi's feed, and it's got Robbie Earle in the studio.

Christ, he looks old now.

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Wow Dixon showing at half time how two no pressure passes from Brighton have them with a clear run at the back 4 and a shot at goal


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Rich wrote:
We are the worst team in the league. When you see the money spent on this team the talent that is in there we are the worst most underperforming team in the league.
We lack everything

I have watched the last four games very carefully and I am just grateful we have been playing some weaker teams because I am genuinely scared about what a really top team could do to us. My God we make late era GG teams look like world beaters. Once Brighton sussed us out they have gained in confidence. God we are really *%^@. Relegation is a real possibility

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Rich wrote:
When you see this it’s baffling why martinelli and Pépé don’t get a chance

Thinking the same. Pépé needs to be given a chance.

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We are allergic to wingers and dependant on stupidity


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This display proves something to me; despite Emery's shortcomings, the players just don't care enough.

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We talk about the players not being coached for off the ball work, but as well these are experienced professional footballers, what are they doing and thinking? Surely they watch games back and realise they are weak positionally, don’t track runs etc


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