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Post #506241  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:56 pm 
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Nobody tracked the free midfield man. We need someone to organise the defensive unit. Too much panic.


Xhaka was too far from Cantwell... he tried to pressure Cantwell when he got the ball - too late already.


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Post #506242  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:57 pm 
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I thought going forward, in terms of link-up play and movement, it was the best we've played all season.

And yet..........we find ourselves 2-1 down because our fullbacks bombed forward, we lost possession and our midfield is not quick or alert enough to cover the space.


The positive - we created chances... 5-4 to us perhaps?


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Post #506243  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:00 pm 
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I am convinced Mustafi is deliberately messing it up. As a seasoned professional, he cannot be so poor.

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Post #506244  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:00 pm 
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When you see our defence and the so called protection from midfield and add in that we will concede 2 goals to anyone in the league I’m left scratching my head why we aren’t in the relegation zone.

The current bottom 3:
Watford battered us, should have won and had 31 shots
Southampton our play is all game and should have won 4/5-1
Norwich now just picking us off so easily and 2-1 up

These are the 3 worst teams in the league.

Add in Newcastle who are hopeless and we only have 1 shot on goal v them.

This group of players deserve to be in the bottom half of the league - minimum.

Who was the last senior player arsenal signed who improved whilst being here?


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Goonie wrote:
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Nobody tracked the free midfield man. We need someone to organise the defensive unit. Too much panic.


Xhaka was too far from Cantwell... he tried to pressure Cantwell when he got the ball - too late already.


Xhaka's tracking back is like running through treacle, but we know that. Unless you have a Kante in there alongside him to cover the ground and put out the fires when he gets caught ahead of play then Xhaka is a liability.


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Post #506246  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:03 pm 
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socrates wrote:
I thought going forward, in terms of link-up play and movement, it was the best we've played all season.

And yet..........we find ourselves 2-1 down because our fullbacks bombed forward, we lost possession and our midfield is not quick or alert enough to cover the space.

I keep banging on about pace, it’s simply irreplaceable in the game. You can make mistake after mistake but your pace can get you back in position or hold up an attack. Literally zero tactical nous required, just pure physical attributes.

I think you could field a team of technically very average footballers but who all are lightening quick and physically strong and they’d do absolutely fine in the league if they just play to their strengths.


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Post #506247  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:04 pm 
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socrates wrote:
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Xhaka was too far from Cantwell... he tried to pressure Cantwell when he got the ball - too late already.


Xhaka's tracking back is like running through treacle, but we know that. Unless you have a Kante in there alongside him to cover the ground and put out the fires when he gets caught ahead of play then Xhaka is a liability.

And therein lies the fundamental problem. No player at Arsenal should HaVE to have a certain player alongside them to cover their major weakness.
Even if we did have Kante then you’re asking Xhaka to play box to box - he can’t do that either.


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Post #506248  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:05 pm 
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Very disappointed not to see a more radical selection in the first place from Freddie.


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Post #506249  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:09 pm 
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The points that are hard to comprehend are just....The sheer stupidity of it all.

Our talisman striker being player wide right and isolated when you need him around the box .

Our record signing who plays wide right on the bench

Our problems in central defence compounded by bringing Mustafi back in the fold.

I’m not blaming Freddie at all but it’s like we are trapped in purgatory with the same stuff happening over and over till eternity


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Post #506250  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:10 pm 
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We play Brighton at home in the league next....then by my rating I think we play 10 games where I really can’t see where a win comes from before we play Newcastle at home. That awkward combination of very good teams coming to the emirates and us going away to average teams. It is a run full of defeats and a few draws.
We really could find ourselves in the bottom 6


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Post #506251  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:16 pm 
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2-2 was just about to say we’ve had so many corners today about time we did something from them!


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:22encouragement: :22encouragement:
Aubameyang!! God help us when he goes.


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Aubameyang !

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:22encouragement:


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Post #506255  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:18 pm 
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Saved by Leno. Phew.


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Post #506256  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:22 pm 
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Mustafi is just all over the place.

All at sea


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Post #506257  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:23 pm 
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The board should mandate that the next player (or two) bought MUST be a central defender. I don't care if Messi says he wants to come for 1 pound a week and buys out his own contract.

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Post #506258  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:24 pm 
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Another symptom of no pace and no mobility is that players like chambers, mustafi, Sokratis, Xhaka and Guendouzi are walking yellow cards every game


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Post #506259  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:25 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
Mustafi is just all over the place.

All at sea

It would seem that we can let it goals at any time, usually about 2 in a game. And Aubameyang can score goals.

Plus ca change ...

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Post #506260  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:25 pm 
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Chambers is a very poor player. No impact going forward. Shaky when defending.

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Post #506261  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:29 pm 
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Torriera on for Willock. It’s like Unai never left


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Post #506262  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:29 pm 
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Never bring on any creativity, never go for the jugular


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They're all over us at the moment.


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If you think a Mustafi Luiz combo in the centre is good enough for the premiership do you have what it takes to be a manager?

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Post #506265  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:36 pm 
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Looks like Saka coming on next. Pépé must be wondering what's going on.


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Post #506266  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:38 pm 
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Torriera on for Willock. It’s like Unai never left

To be fair. It is only two days since he left. Not likely to be mega different with the current bunch of players.

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Looks like Saka coming on next. Pépé must be wondering what's going on.

£72m very well spent. Just what the squad needed. :8angers:

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Post #506268  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:40 pm 
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I think Aubameyang is our only player who can consistently connect properly with a football when striking at goal


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Post #506269  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:42 pm 
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Xhaka playing well today

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If you think a Mustafi Luiz combo in the centre is good enough for the premiership do you have what it takes to be a manager?

I don’t think any combination of our CB are capable of defending properly. Each capable of conceding 2 goals vs anyone


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Post #506271  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:44 pm 
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Chambers is a very poor player. No impact going forward. Shaky when defending.

I've never been impressed by him. Not sure why he hasn't been let go frankly.

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Post #506272  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:46 pm 
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Freddie looks a little bit like its overwhelming

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Rich wrote:
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If you think a Mustafi Luiz combo in the centre is good enough for the premiership do you have what it takes to be a manager?

I don’t think any combination of our CB are capable of defending properly. Each capable of conceding 2 goals vs anyone


These are the two worst we have.

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We must have the most inept defensive unit on the planet ... Chambers , Kolasinac , Xhaka . Mustafi . Luiz .
They look vulnerable every time Norwich have the ball .


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Thank goodness for Aubameyang and Leno.

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As I watch this with the feeling that it’s like watching two lower half of the table teams it strikes me that if this Arsenal side were in the Championship then they would really struggle to get promoted.

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Post #506277  Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:53 pm 
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Dog *%^@.

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AmericanGooner wrote:
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Chambers is a very poor player. No impact going forward. Shaky when defending.

I've never been impressed by him. Not sure why he hasn't been let go frankly.

Not an FB and never will be.

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Decent point in the end but not really that impressed with Freddie's selections. Playing two clowns together at CB is asking for trouble and why give Martinelli only 5 mins at the end?


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Well, we didn't lose.

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