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Post #373041  Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:14 am 
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Depends who buys them I guess.

Liverpool owners Fenway Sports Group have said they remain committed to the Premier League club amid reports they are willing to sell it.
A report in The Athletic claimed FSG, who have owned the club since 2010, have invited offers for the club and a sales presentation for bidders has been prepared.
But a statement from FSG read: "There have been a number of recent changes of ownership and rumours of changes in ownership at EPL clubs and inevitably we are asked regularly about Fenway Sports Group’s ownership in Liverpool.
"FSG has frequently received expressions of interest from third parties seeking to become shareholders in Liverpool. FSG has said before that under the right terms and conditions we would consider new shareholders if it was in the best interests of Liverpool as a club.

"FSG remains fully committed to the success of Liverpool, both on and off the pitch."


I'd be very surprised if they did, the club is a cash cow for them in merchandizing and I have to assume the value has gone up considerably since being bought.

The word is among the various NFL and NBA owners is how can they get into the EPL game. And its understood they query Glazer and Kroenke at the owner's meetings.

Attendance were in decline for a while but a post covid19 return has happened. And so has viewership but we'll have to see if it lasts.

The EPL is the target though for a lot of them, among which is that football is now regularly on tv and the kids play it now as much they play traditional American sports in schools, especially the middle class suburbs where its the most popular over American football.

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A cracking game in the Argentina’s Champions Trophy final between Racing Club and Boca Juniors today. 10 players getting red cards.


There was a small Argentinian restaurant near me in LA and I used to go there for empanadas and the occasional game. I've always wanted to see the various classicos around the world but they said never, ever go to the Boca/Plate game. It's not worth it and its dangerous. Go see either play a smaller club.

Racing is one of the bigger clubs there so I can understand the passion on both sides. Still, I want to see a game there (as well as every league in Europe).

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Post #373043  Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 5:41 am 
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Greetings SG Forumites

I’ve been meaning to join the parade of golden oldies from days gone by, over the past week. A combination of having a very busy week and being in a state of shock since I heard Bernard passed, has meant I’ve only finally made time at this witching hour (UK) of the morning, which I thought I better do before too much time had passed.

Although I haven’t been posting on the forum for several years, I regularly keep up to date with topics Arsenal on here. I think the last time I would of posted was around the time of the “wenger Protests” in 2017/18. A lot has changed of course; If this terrible event had to happen, I’m so pleased that Bernard left us when we are top of the league. In fact as I was in frequent contact with him he waxed lyrical about the team’s progress, over the past 6-12 months especially. Apart from the stuff- I 100% agree with- everyone has said about this legend of the forum, he was personally very kind to me. I don’t go to many games (certainly not these days) and the same with away trips, Because of Bernard’s high level of away credits he was able to get me an away ticket for a couple of games where I had planned a weekend social around games. Newcastle in 2015 and WBA in 2017, the latter was an infamous game as it was when the Protest Group put the first of the Planes up.

I almost met up with Bernard back in September, I was involved in a big exhibition I’d curated in London, and Bernard said he was going to come to the opening on this particular Friday night. Although Bernard was a stickler for detail on all things Arsenal and other well reflected topics such as Captital punishment and The Icpress File, he didn’t translate that in to his own life always (in my experience anyway) on the Friday afternoon as we were out getting booze for the evening event, Bernard called and said he had turned up and no one was there. Somebody who worked in the studios adjacent to where we were having the show let him in so he could at least see it, even if we hadn’t put all the finishing touches together. Although I didn’t get to see him, I glad he did that.
I was last in touch with him by text on the 20th October, due to another conversation id told him about the original Attenborough vs of ‘Brighton Rock’ and on that day he’d seen it was showing on one of the movie channels and had recorded it.

We now know he passed 3 days later, and I never found out if he saw it or what he thought.

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Post #373044  Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 6:04 am 
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I love some of these interesting tidbits that may be well known to you guys but because I became a fan later, unbeknown to me.

19-year old Clive Allen became the most expensive teenager when Arsenal signed him from Queens Park Rangers for £1.25m in the summer of 1980.
However, he never played a competitive match for Arsenal as he managed only three pre-season friendlies before joining Crystal Palace in a swap deal with Kenny Sansom.
Allen spent only one season at Crystal Palace (1980-81) and finished as the club's top scorer in all competitions with 11 goals but they finished bottom of the First Division.
Overall, Allen played for a total of 10 clubs- 7 London clubs (QPR, Arsenal, Crystal Palace, Spurs, Chelsea, West Ham, Millwall) and 3 others (Bordeaux, Man City and Carlisle United), scoring over 190 goals in over 400 appearances.
At international level, he managed just five appearances for England and scored no goal.
Following his retirement, he had a brief American Football career and played for the London Monarchs in NFL Europe.
Following the departure of Martin Jol, Allen served as caretaker manager of Spurs in October 2007. His son Oliver Allen is also a retired professional footballer.


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Post #373045  Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:02 am 
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Yeah, I just think we're at that point where talking about a title challenge can't be considered cocky or premature, especially considering how convincing the majority of our performances have been. Haven't looked at the history, but I can imagine teams leading the league after 13 games challenge for the title most years.

The World Cup is obviously a huge factor that makes it more unpredictable this season. Partey might suffer a long term injury, or De Bruyne breaks a leg and the whole thing opens up... We'll see.


January is massive. Spurs, Newcastle united and Manchester united. If somehow we got through that still top or not far off it I would start to believe

Another factor is the scheduling. We don’t play city until April 26! The other fixture againest them hasn’t been rescheduled and won’t be for a while. (Will need us to exit a cup competition)I think avoiding them for the time being is very useful.

I’ve seen it suggested that our home game with City can be (or has to be) rearranged for Feb 7/8 midweek, there is very little wriggle room in the calendar.
If that is the date then City will have to play away to Chelsea, Man U, Spurs and Arsenal in the space of 5 prem games.
As tough as our fixtures are in January if Man City are top at the end of that run then they will be very, very difficult to stop. Our run in is tough as well, last 2 games are ok but city, Chelsea, Newcastle, Brighton in the last 6


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I love some of these interesting tidbits that may be well known to you guys but because I became a fan later, unbeknown to me.

19-year old Clive Allen became the most expensive teenager when Arsenal signed him from Queens Park Rangers for £1.25m in the summer of 1980.
However, he never played a competitive match for Arsenal as he managed only three pre-season friendlies before joining Crystal Palace in a swap deal with Kenny Sansom.
Allen spent only one season at Crystal Palace (1980-81) and finished as the club's top scorer in all competitions with 11 goals but they finished bottom of the First Division.
Overall, Allen played for a total of 10 clubs- 7 London clubs (QPR, Arsenal, Crystal Palace, Spurs, Chelsea, West Ham, Millwall) and 3 others (Bordeaux, Man City and Carlisle United), scoring over 190 goals in over 400 appearances.
At international level, he managed just five appearances for England and scored no goal.
Following his retirement, he had a brief American Football career and played for the London Monarchs in NFL Europe.
Following the departure of Martin Jol, Allen served as caretaker manager of Spurs in October 2007. His son Oliver Allen is also a retired professional footballer.


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Post #373047  Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:11 am 
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:laughing7: and what were you saying last year little TG when we had that string of piss poor results to throw away that Champions League spot .

Don't remember any holding the line saying Arteta is our man when we were losing to ....... who was it ...? Crystal Palace Wolves Brighton Watford .

Judging by the Villa performance today ; using your logic perhaps we should have stuck with Unai Emery .

I was. We just ran out of steam last year and were physically and mentally exhausted. I remember the usual bed wetters seemed to have a problem when Mikel got his new contract but i didn’t.

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Nice to see some clean sheets, only 1 goal conceded in the last 4. We’ve only conceded 4 goals away from home in the league all season


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Kiwi, some people just love grandstanding. Be one better than others. Let them win their race in a useless sprint.


:laughing7: maybe so G7 not for me to judge ... feeling all calm and mellow tonight curtesy of four beers and a couple of on going wines and a decisive win over Mrs Kiwi .

Went to the recyclers today to dump some bottles [ obviously ] paper , cardboard , tins etc ...they've got this fridge plugged in near one of the bins ...????
I'm checking it out ..... big Maori bloke I've befriended who works there ; Wayne ... shouts .." do you want it Captain "
Me ...what's the story .....
Wayne ...bloke came in dumped it off said it works fine they have upgraded to a bigger fridge .

Mama Mia the fridge is as clean as a whistle not a mark on it and it's cold .

I scurry home grab the trailer , go back , load it on and take it home . I'm chuffed .... back the trailer into the carport to unload it .

Out comes the ''harpy''' .... "what do we want this for ...? ...well it's too good to throw away maybe we could ...............

""I'm not having a fridge that small in the house ""

Hmmm ...okay I don't say anything , keep my powder dry .

Son Kurt arrives later for something ...spots the fridge ...enquires . I tell him the story ... Kurt is an expressive character ; not short of a word

Mama Mia what a score , there's not a mark on it ...Jesus you'd get $250 for that no worries .

Mrs Kiwi rolls out while he is gushing over it . Ha ha ha ""Really says I ... you reckon it's that good "" get him to wax more lyrical .

All the while eyeing the wife with a monstrous grin .

Bottom line I put that uppity little strumpet in her place . Epilogue ... Gave the fridge to Kurt he'll pick it up in the weekend .


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Pete on the beach wrote:
AmericanGooner wrote:
I love some of these interesting tidbits that may be well known to you guys but because I became a fan later, unbeknown to me.

19-year old Clive Allen became the most expensive teenager when Arsenal signed him from Queens Park Rangers for £1.25m in the summer of 1980.
However, he never played a competitive match for Arsenal as he managed only three pre-season friendlies before joining Crystal Palace in a swap deal with Kenny Sansom.
Allen spent only one season at Crystal Palace (1980-81) and finished as the club's top scorer in all competitions with 11 goals but they finished bottom of the First Division.
Overall, Allen played for a total of 10 clubs- 7 London clubs (QPR, Arsenal, Crystal Palace, Spurs, Chelsea, West Ham, Millwall) and 3 others (Bordeaux, Man City and Carlisle United), scoring over 190 goals in over 400 appearances.
At international level, he managed just five appearances for England and scored no goal.
Following his retirement, he had a brief American Football career and played for the London Monarchs in NFL Europe.
Following the departure of Martin Jol, Allen served as caretaker manager of Spurs in October 2007. His son Oliver Allen is also a retired professional footballer.


Check this https://youtu.be/InAWlnS1Vsw

probably as close to truth as well ever get.

Only Terry Neil would ever really know what happened. They couldn't have liked the look of him in training. Very hard to work out


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Post #373051  Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:24 am 
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AmericanGooner wrote:
I love some of these interesting tidbits that may be well known to you guys but because I became a fan later, unbeknown to me.

19-year old Clive Allen became the most expensive teenager when Arsenal signed him from Queens Park Rangers for £1.25m in the summer of 1980.
However, he never played a competitive match for Arsenal as he managed only three pre-season friendlies before joining Crystal Palace in a swap deal with Kenny Sansom.
Allen spent only one season at Crystal Palace (1980-81) and finished as the club's top scorer in all competitions with 11 goals but they finished bottom of the First Division.
Overall, Allen played for a total of 10 clubs- 7 London clubs (QPR, Arsenal, Crystal Palace, Spurs, Chelsea, West Ham, Millwall) and 3 others (Bordeaux, Man City and Carlisle United), scoring over 190 goals in over 400 appearances.
At international level, he managed just five appearances for England and scored no goal.
Following his retirement, he had a brief American Football career and played for the London Monarchs in NFL Europe.
Following the departure of Martin Jol, Allen served as caretaker manager of Spurs in October 2007. His son Oliver Allen is also a retired professional footballer.

You missed out the really annoying bit where he scored 49 goals for Tottenham in the 86/87 season.

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Post #373052  Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:31 am 
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long time gooner wrote:
AmericanGooner wrote:
I love some of these interesting tidbits that may be well known to you guys but because I became a fan later, unbeknown to me.

19-year old Clive Allen became the most expensive teenager when Arsenal signed him from Queens Park Rangers for £1.25m in the summer of 1980.
However, he never played a competitive match for Arsenal as he managed only three pre-season friendlies before joining Crystal Palace in a swap deal with Kenny Sansom.
Allen spent only one season at Crystal Palace (1980-81) and finished as the club's top scorer in all competitions with 11 goals but they finished bottom of the First Division.
Overall, Allen played for a total of 10 clubs- 7 London clubs (QPR, Arsenal, Crystal Palace, Spurs, Chelsea, West Ham, Millwall) and 3 others (Bordeaux, Man City and Carlisle United), scoring over 190 goals in over 400 appearances.
At international level, he managed just five appearances for England and scored no goal.
Following his retirement, he had a brief American Football career and played for the London Monarchs in NFL Europe.
Following the departure of Martin Jol, Allen served as caretaker manager of Spurs in October 2007. His son Oliver Allen is also a retired professional footballer.

You missed out the really annoying bit where he scored 49 goals for Tottenham in the 86/87 season.

Yet still won *%^@ all.

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From an Arsenal perspective, it’s probably good if our players don’t go to the world cup, but Martinelli must be over the moon. Who would’ve thought when he arrived as a completely unknown 18-year old in the summer of 2019 that he’d grab a spot in such a strong Brazil squad for the next World Cup? It really is quite the accomplishment.


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...Mama Mia the fridge is as clean as a whistle not a mark on it and it's cold .

I scurry home grab the trailer , go back , load it on and take it home . I'm chuffed .... back the trailer into the carport to unload it .

Out comes the ''harpy''' .... "what do we want this for ...? ...well it's too good to throw away maybe we could ...............

""I'm not having a fridge that small in the house ""

Hmmm ...okay I don't say anything , keep my powder dry .

Son Kurt arrives later for something ...spots the fridge ...enquires . I tell him the story ... Kurt is an expressive character ; not short of a word

Mama Mia what a score , there's not a mark on it ...Jesus you'd get $250 for that no worries .

Mrs Kiwi rolls out while he is gushing over it . Ha ha ha ""Really says I ... you reckon it's that good "" get him to wax more lyrical .

All the while eyeing the wife with a monstrous grin .

Bottom line I put that uppity little strumpet in her place . Epilogue ... Gave the fridge to Kurt he'll pick it up in the weekend .
Hi Kiwi, there's a lot of opportunities for posts in our government at the moment. A quick call to Mr. Sunak and I reckon with this CV you'll be nailed on for the Women's Equalities job.

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A little aside from the Allen/Sansom story.

Southwark Council in London has a blue plaque scheme recognising people, places and events considered to be of popular importance to the story of the borough. Back in the day I met Kenny at his book signing at The Emirates shop and asked him if he would be happy to be nominated. He was, we did and his plaque was approved by the people's vote.

https://openplaques.org/plaques/56123

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Hazuki wrote:
From an Arsenal perspective, it’s probably good if our players don’t go to the world cup, but Martinelli must be over the moon. Who would’ve thought when he arrived as a completely unknown 18-year old in the summer of 2019 that he’d grab a spot in such a strong Brazil squad for the next World Cup? It really is quite the accomplishment.

He is such a phenomenal talent, a player I wish my late dad would have seen. He loved an exciting wide player more than any other position. He would have loved this current side. I can almost hear how he'd eulogise about Saka And Martinelli.

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A little aside from the Allen/Sansom story.

Southwark Council in London has a blue plaque scheme recognising people, places and events considered to be of popular importance to the story of the borough. Back in the day I met Kenny at his book signing at The Emirates shop and asked him if he would be happy to be nominated. He was, we did and his plaque was approved by the people's vote.

https://openplaques.org/plaques/56123

Good stuff.

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A little aside from the Allen/Sansom story.

Southwark Council in London has a blue plaque scheme recognising people, places and events considered to be of popular importance to the story of the borough. Back in the day I met Kenny at his book signing at The Emirates shop and asked him if he would be happy to be nominated. He was, we did and his plaque was approved by the people's vote.

https://openplaques.org/plaques/56123

Great story!

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I love some of these interesting tidbits that may be well known to you guys but because I became a fan later, unbeknown to me.

19-year old Clive Allen became the most expensive teenager when Arsenal signed him from Queens Park Rangers for £1.25m in the summer of 1980.
However, he never played a competitive match for Arsenal as he managed only three pre-season friendlies before joining Crystal Palace in a swap deal with Kenny Sansom.
Allen spent only one season at Crystal Palace (1980-81) and finished as the club's top scorer in all competitions with 11 goals but they finished bottom of the First Division.
Overall, Allen played for a total of 10 clubs- 7 London clubs (QPR, Arsenal, Crystal Palace, Spurs, Chelsea, West Ham, Millwall) and 3 others (Bordeaux, Man City and Carlisle United), scoring over 190 goals in over 400 appearances.
At international level, he managed just five appearances for England and scored no goal.
Following his retirement, he had a brief American Football career and played for the London Monarchs in NFL Europe.
Following the departure of Martin Jol, Allen served as caretaker manager of Spurs in October 2007. His son Oliver Allen is also a retired professional footballer.


Check this https://youtu.be/InAWlnS1Vsw


Fantastic Pete! Loved it. I love the stories. As an aside from several years at being at a British pub in LA, there are two types of Brits that were natural story tellers. Cockneys and Scousers. Clive reminds me of me sitting late afternoon after the games were finished and hearing all sorts of stories.

The story of Wenger is great. I'm imagining if he'd actually hit him. Fantastic stories. 1980 over a million quid for a teenager. I can imagine the outrage at the time in some circles. We were spending money like that?

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A little aside from the Allen/Sansom story.

Southwark Council in London has a blue plaque scheme recognising people, places and events considered to be of popular importance to the story of the borough. Back in the day I met Kenny at his book signing at The Emirates shop and asked him if he would be happy to be nominated. He was, we did and his plaque was approved by the people's vote.

https://openplaques.org/plaques/56123


Brilliant omoh! :58big-emoticons:

Is it right next to yours?

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old man of hoy wrote:
A little aside from the Allen/Sansom story.

Southwark Council in London has a blue plaque scheme recognising people, places and events considered to be of popular importance to the story of the borough. Back in the day I met Kenny at his book signing at The Emirates shop and asked him if he would be happy to be nominated. He was, we did and his plaque was approved by the people's vote.

https://openplaques.org/plaques/56123

Excellent work, Hoy. :58big-emoticons:

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Hearing the story about Harry Redknapp from the Clive Allen video and what I've read about Wenger, Ferguson as well as the most influential coaches in my life as a kid and university, it reminds me of a quote I heard once that said something to the effect, that all great coaches have to be great psychologists.

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Tomorrow's game brings up something we haven't discussed much. How do we manage the cup competitions and be successful in them, simultaneously maintain our high level of performance in the league? Do we sacrifice the league cup with a young squad ala Wenger? Or go for it? The one thing I noticed about Mourinho and something I heard Ferguson say was you want the team to have the feeling of lifting a trophy. When it was us and Chelsea for a few years and Man Utd were clearly 3rd best, Ferguson went with a strong side to win the league cup and he said you don't want the squad to go too long without knowing what its like to lift a trophy.

If I'm not mistaken it was also Mourinho's first trophy with them in 2005. The league cup is the first trophy available and those managers used it to motivate their clubs for not only remainder of the season instilling belief but making them hungry for more.

Mourinho won the title his first season and he ended up winning the league and Ferguson won it and ended up runner up in 2006 after finishing out of the top 2 for two years running which he never experienced in the EPL before. And the very next season in 2007 Ferguson wins the title.

Should we employ that strategy?

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old man of hoy wrote:
A little aside from the Allen/Sansom story.

Southwark Council in London has a blue plaque scheme recognising people, places and events considered to be of popular importance to the story of the borough. Back in the day I met Kenny at his book signing at The Emirates shop and asked him if he would be happy to be nominated. He was, we did and his plaque was approved by the people's vote.

https://openplaques.org/plaques/56123


Brilliant omoh! :58big-emoticons:

Is it right next to yours?
No plaque AG, but I do proudly hold the Honorary Liberty of the Old Metropolitan Borough of Bermondsey! Generally speaking I am not a fan of the current national honours system in our country, but this local one has more meaning for me. I am not sure if I can drive my sheep and cattle down the Tower Bridge Road.

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I'm sure you deserve one. The years past with the players part of the community reminds me of baseball pre '70s where they lived among the people. Their wages were good but not great. And they saved their money as best they could and it was not good to splash the cash.

I get the same feeling about footballers in England, London in particular pre 80s? Pre 90s maybe? You lot would know more than I would.

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old man of hoy wrote:
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Brilliant omoh! :58big-emoticons:

Is it right next to yours?
No plaque AG, but I do proudly hold the Honorary Liberty of the Old Metropolitan Borough of Bermondsey! Generally speaking I am not a fan of the current national honours system in our country, but this local one has more meaning for me. I am not sure if I can drive my sheep and cattle down the Tower Bridge Road.

Brilliant left back was Kenny........Bernard rated him highly.....I think he had him in front of Ashley Cole in his all time AFC team


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I still don’t think Gary Neville can fully admit how wrong he’s been about Arsenal. As well as everything he said at the start of last year he said Arteta would struggle this year, that if Arteta got top 4 that would be his ceiling with this team and he should leave, we’d be outside the top 4 this year etc etc. he back tracks by saying how much he likes us and likes how we play and now says he thinks we will get top 4….but at the same time says let’s see in feb/March as we know Arsenal can crumble.

He’s basically setting it up so he can say he was right either way.

I also find the notion of teams ‘crumbling’ a bit odd. Did Liverpool crumble because they only had to beat spurs at home last year and that would have been enough to win them the title? I think it’s too easy to see a team fall just short and claim they are bottlers or haven’t got the mental strength to succeed. Our side has shown plenty of bottle, cojones and mental strength in all sorts of games but that gets ignored for the one time everyone deems we did bottle a game.


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Anthony Gordon of Everton is a fine young prospect and, truth be told, I wouldn't mind him for us but he has a spiteful side....he did one of our players (forget who) at Goodison last season and just did a very nasty tackle on a Bournemouth player


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I still don’t think Gary Neville can fully admit how wrong he’s been about Arsenal. As well as everything he said at the start of last year he said Arteta would struggle this year, that if Arteta got top 4 that would be his ceiling with this team and he should leave, we’d be outside the top 4 this year etc etc. he back tracks by saying how much he likes us and likes how we play and now says he thinks we will get top 4….but at the same time says let’s see in feb/March as we know Arsenal can crumble.

He’s basically setting it up so he can say he was right either way.

I also find the notion of teams ‘crumbling’ a bit odd. Did Liverpool crumble because they only had to beat spurs at home last year and that would have been enough to win them the title? I think it’s too easy to see a team fall just short and claim they are bottlers or haven’t got the mental strength to succeed. Our side has shown plenty of bottle, cojones and mental strength in all sorts of games but that gets ignored for the one time everyone deems we did bottle a game.


F... Gary Neville the rat faced Manc c.......I know you get him a lot in the UK and thank God I'm lucky I don't. He was no more than a good/OKish right back in a great team...no more no less.... and is fortunate to have had the playing career he did....there have been right backs better than him that by circumstance won a lot less. I've heard he's a decent pundit....but he's lucky to have achieved that position
And every time you do see him on TV just cast your mind back to OT when him and his equally obnoxious brother resorted to despicable play to stop us. For me I hate the f...ing p
Please accept my apologies for language...I really detest him and all his team mates....actually I never minded Denis Irwin....the rest I hate


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I still don’t think Gary Neville can fully admit how wrong he’s been about Arsenal. As well as everything he said at the start of last year he said Arteta would struggle this year, that if Arteta got top 4 that would be his ceiling with this team and he should leave, we’d be outside the top 4 this year etc etc. he back tracks by saying how much he likes us and likes how we play and now says he thinks we will get top 4….but at the same time says let’s see in feb/March as we know Arsenal can crumble.

He’s basically setting it up so he can say he was right either way.

I also find the notion of teams ‘crumbling’ a bit odd. Did Liverpool crumble because they only had to beat spurs at home last year and that would have been enough to win them the title? I think it’s too easy to see a team fall just short and claim they are bottlers or haven’t got the mental strength to succeed. Our side has shown plenty of bottle, cojones and mental strength in all sorts of games but that gets ignored for the one time everyone deems we did bottle a game.


F... Gary Neville the rat faced Manc c.......I know you get him a lot in the UK and thank God I'm lucky I don't. He was no more than a good/OKish right back in a great team...no more no less.... and is fortunate to have had the playing career he did....there have been right backs better than him that by circumstance won a lot less. I've heard he's a decent pundit....but he's lucky to have achieved that position
And every time you do see him on TV just cast your mind back to OT when him and his equally obnoxious brother resorted to despicable play to stop us. For me I hate the f...ing p
Please accept my apologies for language...I really detest him and all his team mates....actually I never minded Denis Irwin....the rest I hate

People often tell me to move on and forgive. Now I have taken in their feedback and decided that the day I will get over some of these issues is the day they lower the box into the earth or turn on the burners for me at the crematorium. F... Man U, Sir Alex, all their players and the same does for Liverpool and the wankers that played for them and Spurs....

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Post #373071  Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:53 pm 
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I love some of these interesting tidbits that may be well known to you guys but because I became a fan later, unbeknown to me.

19-year old Clive Allen became the most expensive teenager when Arsenal signed him from Queens Park Rangers for £1.25m in the summer of 1980.
However, he never played a competitive match for Arsenal as he managed only three pre-season friendlies before joining Crystal Palace in a swap deal with Kenny Sansom.
Allen spent only one season at Crystal Palace (1980-81) and finished as the club's top scorer in all competitions with 11 goals but they finished bottom of the First Division.
Overall, Allen played for a total of 10 clubs- 7 London clubs (QPR, Arsenal, Crystal Palace, Spurs, Chelsea, West Ham, Millwall) and 3 others (Bordeaux, Man City and Carlisle United), scoring over 190 goals in over 400 appearances.
At international level, he managed just five appearances for England and scored no goal.
Following his retirement, he had a brief American Football career and played for the London Monarchs in NFL Europe.
Following the departure of Martin Jol, Allen served as caretaker manager of Spurs in October 2007. His son Oliver Allen is also a retired professional footballer.

I remember at the time feeling that this swap was a really bad deal but, to be fair, Sansom gave his all in every game, and as far as I recall, never had a bad game!


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Regarding the league cup. Can't see how Liverpool does not go through (home v Derby). However, there is a decent chance Tottenham goes out (at Forest), and smaller chance but still a chance Man Utd goes out (home v. Villa) if they field a team that isn't strong and get caught out.

I'm hoping beyond hope Chelsea beats City away. Likely not to but you never know.

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Andy Green wrote:
Rich wrote:
I still don’t think Gary Neville can fully admit how wrong he’s been about Arsenal. As well as everything he said at the start of last year he said Arteta would struggle this year, that if Arteta got top 4 that would be his ceiling with this team and he should leave, we’d be outside the top 4 this year etc etc. he back tracks by saying how much he likes us and likes how we play and now says he thinks we will get top 4….but at the same time says let’s see in feb/March as we know Arsenal can crumble.

He’s basically setting it up so he can say he was right either way.

I also find the notion of teams ‘crumbling’ a bit odd. Did Liverpool crumble because they only had to beat spurs at home last year and that would have been enough to win them the title? I think it’s too easy to see a team fall just short and claim they are bottlers or haven’t got the mental strength to succeed. Our side has shown plenty of bottle, cojones and mental strength in all sorts of games but that gets ignored for the one time everyone deems we did bottle a game.


F... Gary Neville the rat faced Manc c.......I know you get him a lot in the UK and thank God I'm lucky I don't. He was no more than a good/OKish right back in a great team...no more no less.... and is fortunate to have had the playing career he did....there have been right backs better than him that by circumstance won a lot less. I've heard he's a decent pundit....but he's lucky to have achieved that position
And every time you do see him on TV just cast your mind back to OT when him and his equally obnoxious brother resorted to despicable play to stop us. For me I hate the f...ing p
Please accept my apologies for language...I really detest him and all his team mates....actually I never minded Denis Irwin....the rest I hate


Haha..to be fair, Gary has been very respectful in the past. I think with him is he has the ultimate respect for the Invincible team era but reverts to his rivalry for other Arsenal sides including the present one obviously. Gary and Roy Keane have shown a lot of respect to that era. Keane and Vieira met up to debate a combined side. Very respectful to each other as well. Beckham likes us as well and if I recall, trained at Colney to stay fit at one time. Rio Ferdinand likes us. He had Fabregas on his podcast and it was very mutually respectful exchange. We forced Ferguson to respect us with our play to the point he propositioned Wenger to take over (that would have ended in a nightmare is my guess).

Scholes and Giggs hates us to their core and the one that hates us most of all is Sherringscum. He has a visceral hatred for us and that makes sense looking at who he played for in his career. Schmeichel hates us as well but since doing punditry with Henry in America he still hates us but has built a personal friendship with Henry. I'd add RVN to the visceral hatred as well, with him hating Henry more than any other player possibly other than Keown. For whatever reason Evra has a deep hatred of us, which is a bit surprising since he played alongside a few of our players in the French national side. I also think Ole Gunnar Solskjær hates us but not to the degree of say...Scholes does.

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Kiwi, some people just love grandstanding. Be one better than others. Let them win their race in a useless sprint.


:laughing7: maybe so G7 not for me to judge ... feeling all calm and mellow tonight curtesy of four beers and a couple of on going wines and a decisive win over Mrs Kiwi .

Went to the recyclers today to dump some bottles [ obviously ] paper , cardboard , tins etc ...they've got this fridge plugged in near one of the bins ...????
I'm checking it out ..... big Maori bloke I've befriended who works there ; Wayne ... shouts .." do you want it Captain "
Me ...what's the story .....
Wayne ...bloke came in dumped it off said it works fine they have upgraded to a bigger fridge .

Mama Mia the fridge is as clean as a whistle not a mark on it and it's cold .

I scurry home grab the trailer , go back , load it on and take it home . I'm chuffed .... back the trailer into the carport to unload it .

Out comes the ''harpy''' .... "what do we want this for ...? ...well it's too good to throw away maybe we could ...............

""I'm not having a fridge that small in the house ""

Hmmm ...okay I don't say anything , keep my powder dry .

Son Kurt arrives later for something ...spots the fridge ...enquires . I tell him the story ... Kurt is an expressive character ; not short of a word

Mama Mia what a score , there's not a mark on it ...Jesus you'd get $250 for that no worries .

Mrs Kiwi rolls out while he is gushing over it . Ha ha ha ""Really says I ... you reckon it's that good "" get him to wax more lyrical .

All the while eyeing the wife with a monstrous grin .

Bottom line I put that uppity little strumpet in her place . Epilogue ... Gave the fridge to Kurt he'll pick it up in the weekend .


a happy ending, eh? :42laughter:

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Anthony Gordon of Everton is a fine young prospect and, truth be told, I wouldn't mind him for us but he has a spiteful side....he did one of our players (forget who) at Goodison last season and just did a very nasty tackle on a Bournemouth player

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bubblechris wrote:
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Anthony Gordon of Everton is a fine young prospect and, truth be told, I wouldn't mind him for us but he has a spiteful side....he did one of our players (forget who) at Goodison last season and just did a very nasty tackle on a Bournemouth player

Tomiyasu


No he didn't, that was Godfrey

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Wonder what type of side we will see tonight.

Maybe

Turner, soares, KT, Gabriel, holding, lokonga, elneny, vieira, nelson, Nketiah, martinelli

Might not be an easy game. Brighton aren’t walkovers


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I have this weird thing for seeing ratting videos. All kinds of animals, not just terriers.
I know its weird, even strange, but I like watching it.


terriers ratting


Minks and muskrats


Monitor lizards and mice/rats

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rotterdamnation wrote:
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No he didn't, that was Godfrey

It was a late studs up tackle on Nuno Tavares. Red card for that type of tackle in many other games


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