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Post #316961  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:04 pm 
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Bloody hell, how many lives do spurs have in this competition.
Minutes from being knocked out in the group stage in week 4, 5 and 6. Down and out v city, down and out v Ajax. Ajax hit the post with a minute to go and then spurs launch a Hail Mary and spawn one in.


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Post #316962  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:04 pm 
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I won’t be able to watch that final.

There’s no way that can be healthy


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Post #316963  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:04 pm 
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Two nights of unbelievable knockout football. Absolutely pig sick. :20hospitals:


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Post #316964  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:04 pm 
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Gutting not to have that excellent Ajax team in the final.

But they bottled it.


Ajax were knackered after 65mins - just ran out of steam.


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Post #316965  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:05 pm 
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Doesn't bode well for us. Or will it be third time lucky.................


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Post #316966  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:07 pm 
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Undoubtedly tomorrow we will be the only english side to bottle it.....just to rub salt into the wounds.


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Post #316967  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:10 pm 
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Rich wrote:
Bloody hell, how many lives do spurs have in this competition.
Minutes from being knocked out in the group stage in week 4, 5 and 6. Down and out v city, down and out v Ajax. Ajax hit the post with a minute to go and then spurs launch a Hail Mary and spawn one in.


It's almost like their names in the cup.


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Post #316968  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:11 pm 
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Anything can happen in a final


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Gutting not to have that excellent Ajax team in the final.

But they bottled it.

Ah no. They got the tactics all wrong at the start of the second half but they rallied and played the better football by miles over the two legs.

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Post #316970  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:13 pm 
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Anything can happen in a final


I make the final a genuine 50/50, especially if Kane's back.


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Post #316971  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:13 pm 
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Just when I thought this season could not get any worse.......

It's the season from hell

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Gutting not to have that excellent Ajax team in the final.

But they bottled it.


Ajax were knackered after 65mins - just ran out of steam.

Looks that way.

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Post #316973  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:17 pm 
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I won’t be able to watch that final.

There’s no way that can be healthy

Oh I'll be watching. I might have to borrow a Liverpool kit for it

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Post #316974  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:17 pm 
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All those years in the champions league

How the *%^@ did Wenger not get to more finals and semis


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Post #316975  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:20 pm 
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Also what ever happened to a side winning the champions league having won and been the best team in each tie.
Each semi finalist had huge flaws in their semi to either go down by so much or get beaten on a big comeback.

I can’t stand the thought of that champions league final. I’ll be cheering Liverpool on for sure. Absolutely terrible.

This may sound bitter but I think of the rotten luck alongside the rotten performances we’ve had in the champions league and see the luck spurs have had on this run. I mean if Barca don’t play a B team in the group spurs are out at that stage


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Post #316976  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:21 pm 
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All those years in the champions league

How the *%^@ did Wenger not get to more finals and semis

Because we spewed it or came up against Barca or BM in top form. We should have beaten Liverpool in the quarter final at Anfield and should not have lost to the Chavs

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Post #316977  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:22 pm 
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One thing to be admired in both spurs and Liverpool is how some relatively average squad players have come in and done the business when the best we’re injured. Llorente, moura, Origi, Shaqiri- all big parts to play in each semi and none of whom are first choice


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Post #316978  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:23 pm 
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All those years in the champions league

How the *%^@ did Wenger not get to more finals and semis


Because he was tactically inept and was somewhat hamstrung by scrooge Kroenke so always 2-3 players short of a really good squad that could cope better with multiple competitions.

Spurs seem to be having similar luck to the luck Chelsea had when they won it, ironic we used to be called 'lucky Arsenal' because I'd say if anything we're the opposite, these days at least.

Hopefully Liverpool win it but honestly I just feel numb these days, we're on a road to nowhere under Kroenke and watching rival clubs battle for the top prizes is just a total turn off.

Reminds me I need to cancel BT sport..

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Post #316979  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:23 pm 
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All those years in the champions league

How the *%^@ did Wenger not get to more finals and semis

Because we spewed it or came up against Barca or BM in top form. We should have beaten Liverpool in the quarter final at Anfield and should not have lost to the Chavs

And should have beaten Monaco, and not spewed up a 4-0 defeat to Ac Milan.....and done much better in the early years when teams like Valencia and fiorentina put us out


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Post #316980  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:25 pm 
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Rich wrote:
Bloody hell, how many lives do spurs have in this competition.
Minutes from being knocked out in the group stage in week 4, 5 and 6. Down and out v city, down and out v Ajax. Ajax hit the post with a minute to go and then spurs launch a Hail Mary and spawn one in.

It's what great teams do Rich. You can look at imperfections like replacing Tottenham player x with a player from club z. But Pochetinno appears to have changed the DNA of Tottenham this season. Make no mistake, Tottenham have a very real chance of winning the final in a one off game.

Request to Rog. I don't like anyone being permanently banned from the forum. But can you at least ban American from making predictions? Arsenal looked in with a great chance of a top four place until his gross over-confidence about getting it. He practically guaranteed Tottenham won't win the Champions League, even wanting them to reach the semi-final by beating arguably the best team in it (City), which of course they did.

His predictions are poison for Arsenal and it's fans.


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TOP GUN wrote:
All those years in the champions league

How the *%^@ did Wenger not get to more finals and semis

Luck plays a huge part. Ferguson for all his greatness was unbelievably lucky to win his two CLs and he had great teams. Liverpool and Chelsea won it with average sides. Our 2006 team was mlies away from Wenger's best yet nearly won the thing. There's no legislating for luck. PSG actually looked the best side on this year's competition but got done by an absurd late peno.

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Post #316982  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:35 pm 
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Bloody hell, how many lives do spurs have in this competition.
Minutes from being knocked out in the group stage in week 4, 5 and 6. Down and out v city, down and out v Ajax. Ajax hit the post with a minute to go and then spurs launch a Hail Mary and spawn one in.

It's what great teams do Rich. You can look at imperfections like replacing Tottenham player x with a player from club z. But Pochetinno appears to have changed the DNA of Tottenham this season. Make no mistake, Tottenham have a very real chance of winning the final in a one off game.

Tottenham are not a "great team", Bernard. Not even close. They have been crazy lucky. Liverpool are a totally different story. They are a very very good team.

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Post #316983  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:39 pm 
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Just when I thought this season could not get any worse.......

It's the season from hell

Not necessarily ..... both Champion's league ties will show Unai and our gay boy players exactly what is required of an English team ...battle , never give up , don't f&&% around with the ball at the back .

Two splendid blueprints on how to approach a tie ... of course stuck out in the poxy little country I haven't got some knobby Spurs or Pool supporter in the workplace to wind me up ...... but in both these Euro ties I think it's better to say well done Liverpool and Tottenham and move on .

Hopefully out of the ashes of our woeful end of season form some Phoenix will arise and we will be far more competitive next year .

No Salah , Firmino and Kane and they can still put in credible performances

....while we whinge and whine " Oh we didn't have Ramsay , Bellerin or we have lost our two first choice centre halves " hence the reason why we lost to Everton , Altringham , Middlesborough Ironside or whoever " Bollocks


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Post #316984  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:40 pm 
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Wirral Gooner wrote:
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All those years in the champions league

How the *%^@ did Wenger not get to more finals and semis

Because we spewed it or came up against Barca or BM in top form. We should have beaten Liverpool in the quarter final at Anfield and should not have lost to the Chavs

Yups. Wenger's sides always had that slight brittleness and lack of bottle .. we should have won more titles too.

Spurs and Liverpool don't lack fight, it must be said.

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Post #316985  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:41 pm 
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Thanks spuds for knocking out that horrible bunch. Mousers won't lose 2 finals in a row. Though I hate spuds they are the lesser of 2 evils. Well happy.

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Post #316986  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:45 pm 
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Thanks spuds for knocking out that horrible bunch. Mousers won't lose 2 finals in a row. Though I hate spuds they are the lesser of 2 evils. Well happy.


Probably best to have kept that to yourself?.

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Live and work in Merseyside. Have to work with four tottenham fans. It was bad enough this morning with a scouse love in. *%^@ me I ain't going in tomorrow.

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Post #316988  Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:50 pm 
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I feel sick


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I knew they would score


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Before Kos who was the last truly world class defender we have bought on the transfer market or developed ourselves?

And Bernard you cannot count Mert as he was on the wane when he came to us. Though the defence always seemed a bit more secure when he played with Kos.

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It will be peak typical Arsenal to be the only English team to take a lead into the 2nd leg......and get knocked out


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Please dont embarrass us tomorrow Arsenal.
Give US a final to look forward to.


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Hate to say it but we are miles away from Liverpool and Spurs. Many many miles.
Superb managers motivating good to great players.


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It will be peak typical Arsenal to be the only English team to take a lead into the 2nd leg......and get knocked out

Its nailed on.

Spurs were fantastic that second half, Llorente just killed them. All Moura's goals were clinically taken. Unfortunately they are a top side with a top manager. Saw them play some great football in the group stage and somehow not get the result.

Liverpool though are on another level. Absolutely outstanding team. One of the best in a premier season ever.

But as Bernard says anything can happen in a final.

Should be a belter.

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Hate to say it but we are miles away from Liverpool and Spurs. Many many miles.
Superb managers motivating good to great players.

Not sure Emery is good enough. I know it is his first season but I don't see any leadership or charisma from him. All the best managers seem to have that indecipherable something special. But I have not seen it with Emery.

Think about Clough, Shankly, Paisley, Stein, Ferguson, GG and early Wenger. They all had charisma and leadership. Klopp has it in spades. Not sure Emery has it or will ever have it

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Hate to say it but we are miles away from Liverpool and Spurs. Many many miles.
Superb managers motivating good to great players.

Not sure Emery is good enough. I know it is his first season but I don't see any leadership or charisma from him. All the best managers seem to have that indecipherable something special. But I have not seen it with Emery.

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Pochettino who has just got spurs to a European cup final had to speak through a translator for 2 years. I don’t think anyone would suggest right now he’s a bad manager.

Emery has made mistakes but my goodness he’s getting too much grief


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Wirral Gooner wrote:
Not sure Emery is good enough. I know it is his first season but I don't see any leadership or charisma from him. All the best managers seem to have that indecipherable something special. But I have not seen it with Emery.

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Pochettino who has just got spurs to a European cup final had to speak through a translator for 2 years. I don’t think anyone would suggest right now he’s a bad manager.

Emery has made mistakes but my goodness he’s getting too much grief


Didn't say he was not good enough. Just not convinced yet. Does Emery have charisma? You either have it or you don't have it. It is not learned.

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Before Kos who was the last truly world class defender we have bought on the transfer market or developed ourselves?

And Bernard you cannot count Mert as he was on the wane when he came to us. Though the defence always seemed a bit more secure when he played with Kos.

Mertesacker was 26 when he joined us. If you won't call him world class, I don't think you can call Koscielny world class. I firmly believe that Mertesacker turned Koscielny into the player he became. The latter's first season was ordinary to okay but wasn't great. Mertesacker arrives and Koscielny improved massively. Since Mertesacker has stopped playing through injury or retirement, Koscielny has gone back to his old self when fit. Coincidence? Maybe, but maybe not.

I think people undervalue Mertesacker's organisational abilities. World class is a term with, as far as I'm aware, no agreed definition. If winning over a hundred caps fnr one of the world's premier national teams isn't, then other maybe biased measures can come into it.


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That vapourous f&*%wit Kroenke will now be thinking "well if Spurs can get to a final..".


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It's what great teams do Rich. You can look at imperfections like replacing Tottenham player x with a player from club z. But Pochetinno appears to have changed the DNA of Tottenham this season. Make no mistake, Tottenham have a very real chance of winning the final in a one off game.

Tottenham are not a "great team", Bernard. Not even close. They have been crazy lucky. Liverpool are a totally different story. They are a very very good team.

I didn't call Tottenham a great team. But it is what great teams do. Also, I have seen sides worse than Tottenham called great.


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