Fixtures Sunday April 28th - Tottenham Hotspur - Tottenham Hotspur Stadium - 2:00 Pm

Kick-Off

       Injuries                 Steve Gleiber



Get the Latest Post Go to the Bottom of Page It is currently Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:16 am

All times are UTC


  


Reply to topic

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Decaf, mcquilkie, warrior and 283 guests

 
Post #505561  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 6:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:33 pm
Posts: 7061

Watching West Brom tonight makes you wonder how on earth they managed to put 5 past Chelsea.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505562  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:45 am
Posts: 25814

Another peach of a cross by Saka, following a good quick break.

_________________
I believe in our team, I believe in our quality and I am convinced that I am right. (Arsene Wenger Dec 08)


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505563  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:33 pm
Posts: 7061

Never mind a yellow, that elbow in the face should have been a red.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505564  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:19 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:31 pm
Posts: 4230
Location: Turnford, Broxbourne, Herts

Hopefully it's coming but it is Dein on VAR


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505565  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:23 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:33 pm
Posts: 7061

*%^@.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505566  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:02 am
Posts: 2726
Location: Liverpool

Why does Gabriel back off AND then let him inside on his stronger foot???

_________________
Gorau chwarae cyd chwarae


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505567  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:45 am
Posts: 25814

bubblechris wrote:
Hopefully it's coming but it is Dein on VAR

Would that be David Dein?

_________________
I believe in our team, I believe in our quality and I am convinced that I am right. (Arsene Wenger Dec 08)


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505568  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:33 pm
Posts: 7061

long time gooner wrote:
bubblechris wrote:
Hopefully it's coming but it is Dein on VAR

Would that be David Dein?

You'd think after making that pile on his shares he wouldn't need the work.

Bloody hell, that was close. We need another goal here or we're going to blow it.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505569  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:32 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:45 am
Posts: 25814

bromley gooner wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
Would that be David Dein?

You'd think after making that pile on his shares he wouldn't need the work.

Bloody hell, that was close. We need another goal here or we're going to blow it.

Hanging on aren’t we?

_________________
I believe in our team, I believe in our quality and I am convinced that I am right. (Arsene Wenger Dec 08)


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505570  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:33 pm
Posts: 7061

long time gooner wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
You'd think after making that pile on his shares he wouldn't need the work.

Bloody hell, that was close. We need another goal here or we're going to blow it.

Hanging on aren’t we?

We are a bit. Mind you, the way things have been going it's not much of a surprise.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505571  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:02 pm
Posts: 18425

Ceballos off. Crap performance and still couldn’t score in a brothel


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505572  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:45 am
Posts: 25814

We are mostly like a footballing equivalent of painting by numbers.

_________________
I believe in our team, I believe in our quality and I am convinced that I am right. (Arsene Wenger Dec 08)


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505573  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:02 am
Posts: 2726
Location: Liverpool

Still v little sign of Pépé wising up to the ways of the Premiership. He needs to strengthen up. A lot.

_________________
Gorau chwarae cyd chwarae


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505574  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:43 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:57 pm
Posts: 26777

TOP GUN wrote:
Ceballos off. Crap performance and still couldn’t score in a brothel

Shows the state of the team that we started with a central midfield of a guy who isn’t our player and shouldn’t be our player next year, and a guy we decided (rightly) 2 years ago wasn’t good enough for us and somehow we find him back with us simply as a warm body to fill a gap in the squad.
Add in a gk who allegedly quite fancied moving on, a right back who has never been anywhere close to being a first choice for us, and a left winger who is being paid £200k a week and his form has dropped off a cliff as soon as he joined us.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505575  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:33 pm
Posts: 7061

We are all over the place at the moment.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505576  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:45 am
Posts: 25814

Ha ha. A Willian goal. From a free kick that he won.

_________________
I believe in our team, I believe in our quality and I am convinced that I am right. (Arsene Wenger Dec 08)


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505577  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:33 pm
Posts: 7061

Wow. Willian has scored.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505578  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:02 am
Posts: 2726
Location: Liverpool

Well, well, well.

_________________
Gorau chwarae cyd chwarae


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505579  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:46 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:57 pm
Posts: 26777

Willian finally scores!


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505580  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:45 am
Posts: 25814

Fat Sam not looking impressed. :42laughter:

_________________
I believe in our team, I believe in our quality and I am convinced that I am right. (Arsene Wenger Dec 08)


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505581  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:02 am
Posts: 2726
Location: Liverpool

john1 wrote:
Well, well, well.


Sorry; Will, Will, Will.

_________________
Gorau chwarae cyd chwarae


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505582  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:33 pm
Posts: 7061

3 points but not exactly inspiring stuff.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505583  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:50 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:21 pm
Posts: 16415
Location: Stockholm

Willian redeems his entire season by relegating Sam Allardyce. Great signing.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505584  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:50 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:57 pm
Posts: 26777

The greatest satisfaction from this game is being the team that relegated Fat Sam. The man who prides himself on never having been relegated, he’s been sacked by relegated teams before they actually got relegated. We can rank this one alongside relegating Troy Deeney on the last day of last year.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505585  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:33 pm
Posts: 7061

Hazuki wrote:
Willian redeems his entire season by relegating Sam Allardyce. Great signing.

:58big-emoticons:


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505586  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:53 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:31 pm
Posts: 4230
Location: Turnford, Broxbourne, Herts

and we finally win a home game, at last.
:22encouragement: :22encouragement:


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505587  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:02 pm
Posts: 18425

Rich wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Ceballos off. Crap performance and still couldn’t score in a brothel

Shows the state of the team that we started with a central midfield of a guy who isn’t our player and shouldn’t be our player next year, and a guy we decided (rightly) 2 years ago wasn’t good enough for us and somehow we find him back with us simply as a warm body to fill a gap in the squad.
.


Until we get better midfielders I genuinely don’t think we will improve one iota.

Xhaka, El Nenny are just unable to play on the half turn, ceballos can but is useless at everything else.

We need a no8 & no10 and a player who can sit on the bench and cover both positions adequately in case of an injury.

We are unable to increase the tempo of our play because our distribution from midfield is shocking. It’s not a deliberate tactic, no *%^@** would ask a team to play like that.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505588  Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:23 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:57 pm
Posts: 26777

Soumare’s transfer to Leicester is on, under £30m. Adding him to Ndidi and Tielemans is a hugely strong central midfield absolutely primed for the English league. Physical and pace with technique and ability to play and pass at high tempo.
That trip is a better central midfield than Man U’s as well I’d say. Any one of those 3 would start for us.

We need 2 central midfielders in the summer. Some physicality who can travel with the ball and we somehow need to up the technical ability in the side to help us control games. A fabregas/Cazorla type player. In terms of just basic skill with a football (first touch, control, passing etc) we don’t have anyone remotely close to that level, and we’ve actually got too many players whose basic technique is actually quite lacking.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505589  Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 2:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:55 pm
Posts: 11489
Location: Singapore

Decided to give the game a miss. Sounds like a bore of a match, bar the goals.

_________________
Onwards and Upwards!


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505590  Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 3:09 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:04 am
Posts: 7392
Location: Townsville Australia

Arteta’s interviews are just self serving nonsense that are applauded by the ‘keep Arteta’ crowd. He is like a dodgy fraudster. It is everyone else’s fault. Strangely Emery was one penalty away from a CL position. But the team since Arteta has taken over has gone further down the table despite his buys and decisions. The moment he picked Willian for this game said it all. Maybe after 16 months someone can tell me what formation he wants to play, because it is pointless buying any players if we don’t know how they fit in.

_________________
If this policy does not deliver then I would say we have to change it.
AW 150810


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505591  Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 6:04 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:02 pm
Posts: 18425

Gaz from Oz wrote:
Arteta’s interviews are just self serving nonsense that are applauded by the ‘keep Arteta’ crowd. He is like a dodgy fraudster. It is everyone else’s fault. Strangely Emery was one penalty away from a CL position. But the team since Arteta has taken over has gone further down the table despite his buys and decisions. The moment he picked Willian for this game said it all. Maybe after 16 months someone can tell me what formation he wants to play, because it is pointless buying any players if we don’t know how they fit in.


Disappointed we won again clearly. No hand gel for you last night. At the end of the day Willian scored why lose the plot because he was picked it made sense to give others a rest and he scored.

Oh and the stuff about transfers ? Arteta wasn’t even responsible for transfers until last summer as he was only head coach not manager and that changed in September at which point Willian was complete already and Partey was well inflight. Blaming him for our recruitment is a little unfair.

The formation ? Clearly you don’t actually watch our games because anyone can see he plays a fluid 4-2-1-3 that changes shape in possession. Occasionally a 3-4-3

You don’t know or seem to understand anything about Arsenal and don’t get any enjoyment from us. You need a new hobby, can I suggest bowls


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505592  Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 6:15 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:58 am
Posts: 34119

I have a friend from London, supports a non London club. Met him in the states. He said the only London fans who are more entitled and spoilt than Arsenal fans are Chelsea fans. And he said Chelsea fans beat us out because of the money and bought trophies they got since 2004.

Not talking to anyone specific on here, just a friend's observation.

_________________
"Never relegated, Never Will Be" :)


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505593  Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 6:59 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:22 pm
Posts: 20613

Rich wrote:
Soumare’s transfer to Leicester is on, under £30m. Adding him to Ndidi and Tielemans is a hugely strong central midfield absolutely primed for the English league. Physical and pace with technique and ability to play and pass at high tempo.
That trip is a better central midfield than Man U’s as well I’d say. Any one of those 3 would start for us.

We need 2 central midfielders in the summer. Some physicality who can travel with the ball and we somehow need to up the technical ability in the side to help us control games. A fabregas/Cazorla type player. In terms of just basic skill with a football (first touch, control, passing etc) we don’t have anyone remotely close to that level, and we’ve actually got too many players whose basic technique is actually quite lacking.


Hi Rich,

Which begs the question as to why we are not all over the Soumare deal. Perfect age, ability, physicality, potential and price for a club, like us, who cannot dine at the top table anymore.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505594  Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 7:04 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:04 am
Posts: 7392
Location: Townsville Australia

TOP GUN wrote:
Gaz from Oz wrote:
Arteta’s interviews are just self serving nonsense that are applauded by the ‘keep Arteta’ crowd. He is like a dodgy fraudster. It is everyone else’s fault. Strangely Emery was one penalty away from a CL position. But the team since Arteta has taken over has gone further down the table despite his buys and decisions. The moment he picked Willian for this game said it all. Maybe after 16 months someone can tell me what formation he wants to play, because it is pointless buying any players if we don’t know how they fit in.


Disappointed we won again clearly. No hand gel for you last night. At the end of the day Willian scored why lose the plot because he was picked it made sense to give others a rest and he scored.

Oh and the stuff about transfers ? Arteta wasn’t even responsible for transfers until last summer as he was only head coach not manager and that changed in September at which point Willian was complete already and Partey was well inflight. Blaming him for our recruitment is a little unfair.

The formation ? Clearly you don’t actually watch our games because anyone can see he plays a fluid 4-2-1-3 that changes shape in possession. Occasionally a 3-4-3

You don’t know or seem to understand anything about Arsenal and don’t get any enjoyment from us. You need a new hobby, can I suggest bowls

I was waiting for a reply from Mr Mediocrity and here he is. I know that all the Arteta keepers are starting to say he was not responsible for transfers but he was in the media saying we must get Willian so don’t start with blame shifting. He wouldn’t have played him if he didn’t want him. As for the formation you are having a laugh. It was just a couple of months ago we were pumping crossed into the box, then we played false 9’s, of course most of the season Aubameyang was a left winger and the current sorry performances have 4 up front and no midfield. The only one with his hand in it is you with a photo of Arteta. I want our club to succeed but you obviously are happy with the default setting of mediocrity. I suggest you start supporting a club like Spurs, you are well suited.

_________________
If this policy does not deliver then I would say we have to change it.
AW 150810


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505595  Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 7:12 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:02 pm
Posts: 18425

Gaz from Oz wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

Disappointed we won again clearly. No hand gel for you last night. At the end of the day Willian scored why lose the plot because he was picked it made sense to give others a rest and he scored.

Oh and the stuff about transfers ? Arteta wasn’t even responsible for transfers until last summer as he was only head coach not manager and that changed in September at which point Willian was complete already and Partey was well inflight. Blaming him for our recruitment is a little unfair.

The formation ? Clearly you don’t actually watch our games because anyone can see he plays a fluid 4-2-1-3 that changes shape in possession. Occasionally a 3-4-3

You don’t know or seem to understand anything about Arsenal and don’t get any enjoyment from us. You need a new hobby, can I suggest bowls

I was waiting for a reply from Mr Mediocrity and here he is. I know that all the Arteta keepers are starting to say he was not responsible for transfers but he was in the media saying we must get Willian so don’t start with blame shifting. He wouldn’t have played him if he didn’t want him. As for the formation you are having a laugh. It was just a couple of months ago we were pumping crossed into the box, then we played false 9’s, of course most of the season Aubameyang was a left winger and the current sorry performances have 4 up front and no midfield. The only one with his hand in it is you with a photo of Arteta. I want our club to succeed but you obviously are happy with the default setting of mediocrity. I suggest you start supporting a club like Spurs, you are well suited.


The false 9 was only played through injury and on 2 occasions. The rest as I said. 2 pivots, 1 central and wingers and striker.

As for the rest of the nonsense all I’ll say is I’ve followed the boys all over Europe and season ticket holder and can draw on my experience of what I’ve seen of following arsenal rather than being an internet weirdo trying to force their opinions on others to feel relevant.

It’s perfectly logical to think that Arteta has done some things badly but has also to deal with some of the most mitigating circumstances ever for any manager.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505596  Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 7:18 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:22 pm
Posts: 20613

When Martinelli first burst onto the scene, scoring wondergoals etc, I thought we might have unearthed our own potential superstar, as unlikely as that might have seemed given his £6m price tag. I so much wanted him to be that kind of player.

However, since his return from injury (and even a little bit before that to be honest) I have begun to think that may have been a little bit of wishful thinking. He has an amazing work ethic and infectious enthusiasm but I think he's probably not going to reach the stratospheric levels we all hoped for. I have been wanting him to be given more chances all season just hoping that I was wrong to harbour those niggling doubts and that he would reignite my early belief that he could become a very special player.

The Newcastle game apart he has largely been pretty average and yesterday he looked totally out of his depth at CF. Hopefully, that may have been partly down to a lack of the right kind of service but Arteta had little choice but to withdraw him as he was really quite poor. I am really sad to be saying this because I love his attitude and honestly hoped we had a potential worldbeater on our hands. My gut feel, though, is that he may well have a very good career at Arsenal but perhaps not the stellar career we all hoped he might.

I hope I'm wrong, he's still young and plenty of players don't really see their careers take off until their early 20s so fingers crossed that this season is just a blip.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505597  Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 7:24 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:02 pm
Posts: 18425

socrates wrote:
When Martinelli first burst onto the scene, scoring wondergoals etc, I thought we might have unearthed our own potential superstar, as unlikely as that might have seemed given his £6m price tag. I so much wanted him to be that kind of player.

However, since his return from injury (and even a little bit before that to be honest) I have begun to think that may have been a little bit of wishful thinking. He has an amazing work ethic and infectious enthusiasm but I think he's probably not going to reach the stratospheric levels we all hoped for. I have been wanting him to be given more chances all season just hoping that I was wrong to harbour those niggling doubts and that he would reignite my early belief that he could become a very special player.

The Newcastle game apart he has largely been pretty average and yesterday he looked totally out of his depth at CF. Hopefully, that may have been partly down to a lack of the right kind of service but Arteta had little choice but to withdraw him as he was really quite poor. I am really sad to be saying this because I love his attitude and honestly hoped we had a potential worldbeater on our hands. My gut feel, though, is that he may well have a very good career at Arsenal but perhaps not the stellar career we all hoped he might.

I hope I'm wrong, he's still young and plenty of players don't really see their careers take off until their early 20s so fingers crossed that this season is just a blip.


I think he will be a decent player but he’s a bit of a dog chasing cars if you know what I mean and has to try and play the game in his head a bit more. His injury seems to have slowed him down a bit.

Also we have massive over expectation from our fans now on him as they wished to believe the solution to our problems was sat on our bench rather than in our 11 than accept the reality of our predicament that there is no magic solution here pre packaged we were ignoring.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505598  Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 7:46 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:57 pm
Posts: 26777

Watching Ceballos and Elneny look like they were running through treacle as they tried to catch Pereira as he ran through to score was painful viewing. Neither should be at the club next year.

For all our lack of decent attacking output this year I do feel if we crafted a proper central midfield and a pair of high quality, technically adept full backs we'd be so much better. It would allow us to keep the ball better, be more on the front foot and move our play 20 yards up the pitch..

For the top teams full-back is such an important position in the game. Their defensive work is mainly about recovery pace and defending 1v1, but going forward they need to have the technical ability, passing range and spatial awareness of a central midfielder and also be able to play like an old fashioned winger.

This is what Trent and Robertson do for Liverpool - even if their form has dipped this year, and the best in the league this season has been Walker and Cancelo at City


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505599  Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 7:52 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:57 pm
Posts: 26777

socrates wrote:
Rich wrote:
Soumare’s transfer to Leicester is on, under £30m. Adding him to Ndidi and Tielemans is a hugely strong central midfield absolutely primed for the English league. Physical and pace with technique and ability to play and pass at high tempo.
That trip is a better central midfield than Man U’s as well I’d say. Any one of those 3 would start for us.

We need 2 central midfielders in the summer. Some physicality who can travel with the ball and we somehow need to up the technical ability in the side to help us control games. A fabregas/Cazorla type player. In terms of just basic skill with a football (first touch, control, passing etc) we don’t have anyone remotely close to that level, and we’ve actually got too many players whose basic technique is actually quite lacking.


Hi Rich,

Which begs the question as to why we are not all over the Soumare deal. Perfect age, ability, physicality, potential and price for a club, like us, who cannot dine at the top table anymore.

I always have the feeling with Arsenal transfers, no matter who is in charge that we identify the player through lots of hard work and scouting etc and then we either haggle too hard over price or we worry about 1 perceived weakness and wait too long and someone else just bites the bullet and goes for it. I bet Arsenal think Soumare is too raw to play central midfield in the prem - but isn't that exactly what we need right now. Players considered too raw can be coached to iron out those rough edges, and at 22 there will be rough edges, but if you coach them well then you have a bargain. We can't afford finished product.


 Profile  
 
 
Post #505600  Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 7:55 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:02 pm
Posts: 18425

Rich wrote:
Watching Ceballos and Elneny look like they were running through treacle as they tried to catch Pereira as he ran through to score was painful viewing. Neither should be at the club next year.





2 midfielders who clearly should be playing for championship sides not Arsenal.

Damn you Arteta you should be getting more out these world beaters !,,,,


 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
     [ 548398 posts ] 
Go to page Previous  1 ... 12637, 12638, 12639, 12640, 12641, 12642, 12643 ... 13710  Next

All times are UTC

Gooners Online - Click to see what Everyones Doing

Colour Key:  Visited Profile    Members Profile      Admin

Get Latest Post

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Decaf, mcquilkie, warrior and 283 guests


Search for:

Go to Top

Powered by php BB © 1993 - 2018