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Post #500561  Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:53 pm 
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Also there’s the business problem for example

The club need to sit down with Aubameyang this summer. His people will push the club to raise his salary to 250k a week from 170 for a new contract.

How can the club contemplate that whilst their ability to deliver a business is shrouded in such uncertainty ?

How could a prospective buyer pay a 50m fee then the 250k wages when they have the same problem?


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I'm not adverse to Arsenal players taking a wage cut especially if the savings were guaranteed to help the non-playing staff on low wages. However, I would expect a similar gesture from the multi-multi billionaire owner first.

When Stan’s the owner, let’s be realistic. There’s more chance of Harrods selling their food at a lower price than Aldi.

Can't say I don't blame some players, (Bellarin, PFA rep), questioning why Stan, whose worth is around $10B, seems unable or unwilling to step in with some of his own money to offset financial costs. Possibly as he's pumping most revenue into completion of his SoFi Rams stadium in LA. Then there's the FFP rules Josh falls back on.

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I see that the press are now reporting that it could well be 12 to 18 months before there is a return to packed stadiums. That sounds realistic in a sensible world. It’s hard to imagine just what the professional game might look like after such a period.

Heard this will apply to gigs as well, I suppose all large gatherings.

I play in a band and we had 31 gigs booked well into 2021. Most if not all cancelled now.
We had charity gigs for the bush fires also that were already postponed and the new dates for those 2 are cancelled also. ;-(


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In other news, I'm generally feeling a lot better now. My daughter caught the virus after I did and had awful fevers of 40º+ but is now much better. I'm still intermittently coughing - nothing major - but every muscle in my chest still feels bruised after relentless coughing for over two weeks during the time I was unwell.

Great news Darren.
Good to hear you and your Daughter are on the road to full recovery.
Stay safe and the same to everyone on here and your families.


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Heard this will apply to gigs as well, I suppose all large gatherings.

I play in a band and we had 31 gigs booked well into 2021. Most if not all cancelled now.
We had charity gigs for the bush fires also that were already postponed and the new dates for those 2 are cancelled also. ;-(


Wow! Really?! What intstrument? What type of music? That's cool.
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*For those forumites who have never had the good fortune to meet Darren I must say he's really a lot nicer that the drunken boorish oaf he portrays on here.
Oaf - a really good word. We don't read it much on here since the disappearance of Cannon Balls.

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[... I don't know what the average age of fans at the Emirates is, given the ticket prices I am assuming maybe 40s or so and many of those will inevitably have some health issues.
When I used to go to The Emirates I aged rapidly over a couple of hours watching our defence. Scientists call it the Fabianski effect.

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Also there’s the business problem for example

The club need to sit down with Aubameyang this summer. His people will push the club to raise his salary to 250k a week from 170 for a new contract.

How can the club contemplate that whilst their ability to deliver a business is shrouded in such uncertainty ?

How could a prospective buyer pay a 50m fee then the 250k wages when they have the same problem?
If he wants too much, let him go. He is good, but not irreplaceable.

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old man of hoy wrote:
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Also there’s the business problem for example

The club need to sit down with Aubameyang this summer. His people will push the club to raise his salary to 250k a week from 170 for a new contract.

How can the club contemplate that whilst their ability to deliver a business is shrouded in such uncertainty ?

How could a prospective buyer pay a 50m fee then the 250k wages when they have the same problem?
If he wants too much, let him go. He is good, but not irreplaceable.

I think it goes beyond how much he wants or how good he is. By the way, I do agree with you OMOH that he isn’t irreplaceable. If he still wants away, and him not signing a contract extension suggests he does, then this summer if the last chance Arsenal will have to get a decent transfer fee for him as his value will decline appreciably next January. Don’t forget, the club stated its intention to stop losing top players for nothing.

But we also have to remember this. He is coming up to his 31st birthday in June. He will soon be on his decline. That and it being the last chance of getting a decent transfer fee means this summer is arguably the best time to say goodbye.


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I see that the press are now reporting that it could well be 12 to 18 months before there is a return to packed stadiums. That sounds realistic in a sensible world. It’s hard to imagine just what the professional game might look like after such a period.

Hi LTG,
If, when the rest of the season is played out, whether behind closed doors, it wouldn't surprise me if players are required to wear face masks. Same for all staff, media, sponsors associated with these games. I suspect at least 2 years before majority of normalcy returns. It took 2 years of waiting out the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic.

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long time gooner wrote:
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You're one of the good people* mate so that's wonderful to hear.






*For those forumites who have never had the good fortune to meet Darren I must say he's really a lot nicer that the drunken boorish oaf he portrays on here.

I have had the good fortune to meet Darren several times at the Emirates. Lovely chap. One of the best.

(Actually you’re not so bad yourself Ex :laughing7: )


Ahh that's really nice from someone who carries a bag of pennies around...

Actually without this descending into a love-in I've met a lot of people off here and there's been a ridiculously high number of wonderful people for a niche website about kickaball. Apart from the more local back in the early 2000s after my Dad passed I had a spare ticket that was one of those bonded season tickets and quite a few foreign forumites were able to kind of pre-book it for their trip over. I think my Dad would have really liked that because on the rare occasions he'd been up with a spare ticket he'd always given it to the supporters club and told them to give it to someone who had really travelled for the game. I liked it because the bonded bit meant it would cost (from memory) about half what Arsenal would charge for the same seat. Maybe it was because I'd moved to Newcastle by then and was doing 600 mile round trips to home games but it just seemed right that you should get a discount if you travelled a long way...

Anyway I have a terrible memory but the first three that spring to mind as I type this (and who all don't post anymore) as being wonderful company were Julian, Vasteras and USMartin. I really enjoyed being at the match with all three of them. OK, so one of them may have got a bit wordy on here later but that's no matter to my point.

Jeez I miss the pub.


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Spanish flu pandemic


Racist.

First Central America then Europe.

Always blame the Spanish.

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Anyway I have a terrible memory but the first three that spring to mind as I type this (and who all don't post anymore) as being wonderful company were Julian, Vasteras and USMartin. I really enjoyed being at the match with all three of them. OK, so one of them may have got a bit wordy on here later but that's no matter to my point.

I recall a Juliano so have you missed off an ‘o’ or have I forgotten someone called Julian? From memory Juliano was a French guy. Good poster. I’m sure you’re referring to USMartin with the ‘a bit wordy’ observation. Had some contact with him on another social media site. But I haven’t seen any activity by him on it for quite a few years. Hope he’s okay.


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Some are predicting that if Covid 19 is used as an excuse to suspend or severely limit access to voting, this may be the only way to change governments in a certain country that shall not be named.

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Anyway I have a terrible memory but the first three that spring to mind as I type this (and who all don't post anymore) as being wonderful company were Julian, Vasteras and USMartin. I really enjoyed being at the match with all three of them. OK, so one of them may have got a bit wordy on here later but that's no matter to my point.

I recall a Juliano so have you missed off an ‘o’ or have I forgotten someone called Julian? From memory Juliano was a French guy. Good poster. I’m sure you’re referring to USMartin with the ‘a bit wordy’ observation. Had some contact with him on another social media site. But I haven’t seen any activity by him on it for quite a few years. Hope he’s okay.


You're right - it was Juliano not Julian.


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I recall a Juliano so have you missed off an ‘o’ or have I forgotten someone called Julian? From memory Juliano was a French guy. Good poster. I’m sure you’re referring to USMartin with the ‘a bit wordy’ observation. Had some contact with him on another social media site. But I haven’t seen any activity by him on it for quite a few years. Hope he’s okay.


You're right - it was Juliano not Julian.

I could be wrong, but my recollection is that his name was Julien, but he used 'Juliano' as his forum name.

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A mate of mine just did one of those things on Facebook where you share your best 11 from the time you started to support your club.

He controversially picked Viv Anderson instead of Lee Dixon. What’s the forum consensus on this ? Correct or incorrect ?


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A mate of mine just did one of those things on Facebook where you share your best 11 from the time you started to support your club.

He controversially picked Viv Anderson instead of Lee Dixon. What’s the forum consensus on this ? Correct or incorrect ?

Incorrect - Bob McNab!

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A mate of mine just did one of those things on Facebook where you share your best 11 from the time you started to support your club.

He controversially picked Viv Anderson instead of Lee Dixon. What’s the forum consensus on this ? Correct or incorrect ?

Incorrect - Bob McNab!


mcnab was before his time so not an option.

interesting to hear you think he was better though


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Incorrect - Bob McNab!


A former coworker of mine knew him. Everyone at the office knew I was a huge Arsenal fan (mainly because I would be gone noon mid week games to watch it down the street or on a streaming site if I could get it).

We were trying to set up a meeting at some point and it never happened. So sad, I would have loved to have met him and hear some stories. :1cry:

I had no idea he was living in California. Not sure if he still is as this was many years ago.

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My fear is at some point the PL will look like the NFL or NBA and there be so many clubs with deep pockets that there will be a revolving door of promoted teams only to be relegated back down.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52302094
Newcastle United takeover Q&A: Who are the main people involved in the potential deal?

"Newcastle United fans are used to false dawns when it comes to potential new owners replacing the much-maligned Mike Ashley.

But as a group of investors backed by Saudi Arabia's sovereign wealth fund move closer to ending Ashley's 13-year reign, even the most-sceptical supporters are starting to believe in a new future.

Documents revealed on Tuesday show that the group's leader, financier Amanda Staveley, has laid down the legal framework with Ashley's company for a potential £300m takeover."

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"Amanda Staveley is a powerful figure in Middle Eastern financial circles having helped broker the purchase of Manchester City by current Abu Dhabi-based owner Sheikh Mansour in 2008.

Ashley's opinion of her is not so complimentary having labelled previous talks with her in 2018 a "waste of time".

That has not put her off, though, and this time her firm PCP Capital Partners has the financial backing of Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund (PIF) which, before the coronavirus outbreak, had targeted accruing $400bn (£313.81bn) of assets by the end of 2020."

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old man of hoy wrote:
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A mate of mine just did one of those things on Facebook where you share your best 11 from the time you started to support your club.

He controversially picked Viv Anderson instead of Lee Dixon. What’s the forum consensus on this ? Correct or incorrect ?

Incorrect - Bob McNab!

Bob McNab was a left back. Top Gun, correct in my view. Viv Anderson is the best right back I’ve seen play for the club.


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Incorrect - Bob McNab!

Bob McNab was a left back. Top Gun, correct in my view. Viv Anderson is the best right back I’ve seen play for the club.


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And here's me as an 80's Junior Gunner


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I get how Paddy got in but Petit and Limpar? Did they like Guinness?


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Niall wrote:
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Bob McNab was a left back. Top Gun, correct in my view. Viv Anderson is the best right back I’ve seen play for the club.


Jennings

Rice
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Loved this :laughing7:

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Niall wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Bob McNab was a left back. Top Gun, correct in my view. Viv Anderson is the best right back I’ve seen play for the club.


Jennings

Rice
Nelson
O'Leary
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Vieira
Petit
Brady
Limpar

Quinn
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And here's me as an 80's Junior Gunner


I take it Gilbert O'Silva is on the bench...


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TAFKAEiN wrote:
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Jennings

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Nelson
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Quinn
Stapelton

And here's me as an 80's Junior Gunner


I take it Gilbert O'Silva is on the bench...


My mother would've had McGoldrick for Limpar and Morrow for Petit. She would never leave out a Paddy though.


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Incorrect - Bob McNab!

Bob McNab was a left back. Top Gun, correct in my view. Viv Anderson is the best right back I’ve seen play for the club.


Wouldn't argue with Viv. I think we saw the best of him and it's a great shame we didn't have a team good enough for him to really shine.

A propos of nothing, when I last asked for his best ever 11 in about 2010, my old man always reckoned that Eddie Hapgood (Left Back) was as good a player as any who ever donned the shirt.


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Bob McNab was a left back. Top Gun, correct in my view. Viv Anderson is the best right back I’ve seen play for the club.


Wouldn't argue with Viv. I think we saw the best of him and it's a great shame we didn't have a team good enough for him to really shine.


Talking of McNab I was at a supporters do a while back. Eddie Kelly and Frank McLintock were talking about Bob and according to Frank McNab was actually right footed not left footed which is why he often cut inside before playing the ball forward.

I'd never met Eddie Kelly before but he's one funny bugger. He had a hilarious moan about 'bloody George Graham' trying to nick his goal in the 1971 Cup Final that had everyone in stitches. A few minutes later someone asked him about the Fairs Cup Final goal and he turned to Frank and said "Didn't bloody George Graham score that one?"


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Bernard wrote:
Bob McNab was a left back. Top Gun, correct in my view. Viv Anderson is the best right back I’ve seen play for the club.
Actually Bob began on the right before going on the left. He was so good he could play on both sides of the pitch - see this classic action with him on left.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoOXpZykhUw

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So Silent Stan will be injecting millions into the club to ease financial strains caused by C19. He can afford it.

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Bob McNab was a left back. Top Gun, correct in my view. Viv Anderson is the best right back I’ve seen play for the club.
Actually Bob began on the right before going on the left. He was so good he could play on both sides of the pitch - see this classic action with him on left.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoOXpZykhUw

Just looked him up. McNab’s initial game in the first team was in 1966 and his last was in 1975. I started going in late 1967 and never saw him at right back. The huge majority of his games must have been at left back so I think it’s right to see him as a left back, not a right back. While I never saw him at right back, I’d be astonished if he was anywhere close to Anderson’s level in that position. If he had been I doubt he’d have been moved to left back.


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Just looked him up. McNab’s initial game in the first team was in 1966 and his last was in 1975. I started going in late 1967 and never saw him at right back. The huge majority of his games must have been at left back so I think it’s right to see him as a left back, not a right back. While I never saw him at right back, I’d be astonished if he was anywhere close to Anderson’s level in that position. If he had been I doubt he’d have been moved to left back.
Yes most of his games were at left back, and that is how he will be remembered. However, he started for Arsenal on the right as a replacement for Don Howe, and he would most likely have stayed there if not for the emergence of first Peter Storey, and then Pat Rice as excellent right backs. McNab was so good he could play either side, no problem. An Arsenal great in my view.

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An Arsenal great in my view.

No argument from me on that score, although he wouldn’t even get on the bench of my best ever Arsenal team. I do remember towards the end of McNab’s time at Arsenal, the crowd began to turn on him, which was a shame. Not comparable to the stick Sammels got, but McNab didn’t end up a favourite of the fans.


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I love reading when we are tracking central defenders. I just don't think we will turn the corner until we get the back line sorted. In almost all team sports, defense has to be solid. Football is no exception.

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